Does wonder woman belong in the big 3

#1 Posted by grkpektis (141 posts) - - Show Bio

For those who don't know sometimes people call batman, superman and wonder woman the big 3. I love wonder woman but why is she in the big 3. Batman and superman have at least 5 related titles and she only has one, I think green lantern should be in the big 3, even his main title is selling better than hers

#2 Posted by kitsokk (82 posts) - - Show Bio

Good point but keeping her in big 3 makes it look like DC care about women. Its a better pr thing

#3 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

Being popular is irrelevant, she's still makes the trinity.

Marvel's flagship character is spider-man but their trinity is Thor,iron man, and captain america.

#4 Posted by FrankenKong (234 posts) - - Show Bio

Its not about title its about substance. Superman is well ...Superman. The god of heroes we all look up to as aspire to be. Batman is the man. The one man who has stood on and broken the shoulders of beings far beyond his power and intellect. Wonder Woman is the heart of both of these things. The strong, warm arms that caress us in our darkest hour and lifts us up in our brightest moment. She is irreplaceable and will always belong in The Big 3 (or Monster Trio for you One Piece fans out there XD)

#5 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

Being popular is irrelevant, she's still makes the trinity.

Marvel's flagship character is spider-man but their trinity is Thor,iron man, and captain america.

Exactly and Green lanterns are like a dime a dozen Wonder Woman is a one off a kind. Oh and female leads rarely sell as well as males. Heck Aquaman may be out selling her.

#6 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

She supposed to be the magic element but they have several others to use. Wonder Woman seems to have difficulty working with others and has difficulty since events she have done and trouble from her past. Perhaps another would work. Superman has a family and Batman now has an army. I don't see much leadership done with her.

#7 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@kitsokk said:

Good point but keeping her in big 3 makes it look like DC care about women. Its a better pr thing

QFT

#8 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

Being popular is irrelevant, she's still makes the trinity.

Marvel's flagship character is spider-man but their trinity is Thor,iron man, and captain america.

#9 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

Because she's f**king awesome.

#10 Posted by RyuHayabusa (2019 posts) - - Show Bio

@jrock85 said:

Because she's f**king awesome.

#11 Posted by RazzaTazz (9638 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair also Wonder Woman has proven popular enough as a character to be continually published since the 1940s, save for some gaps around Crisis events.  Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, Aquaman - all are good heroes, but all have also gone through some big gaps in their publication, not only because of editorial decisions, but also because at times they couldn't maintain a series based off of their popularity.  I agree that she has only been able to hold on to only one series for the majority of the time, but how many characters have done this since the 1940s?

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#12 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Historically she's the big3

WW was very popular from the 40s to the 80s, that's a 40+ year run, Diana brought to life by actress Lynda Carter became a household name with the tv series, and is popular from the justice league toons and animated features

the comic world looks different now with Black Widow,"Kim" Possible, Red Sonja, Buffy, Japanese animated girl heroes, Mary Jane, Elektra, Photon, White Queen, Storm, Rogue, Ms Marvel etc

but back in the day there was only one heroine, it was Wonder Woman and DC dominated

Green Lantern is nothing in comparison and his movie a complete flop, movies are supposed to increase popularity of characters but it sold badly at the box office and it cost Warner Bros and DC lots of money

#13 Posted by azza04 (1503 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course she does, I can't see her not being in the big three.

#14 Posted by cattlebattle (12770 posts) - - Show Bio
 
 Wonder Woman is still essentially extremely more popular than Green Lantern or the other League members. Her place....despite how many titles she has, is with Batman and Superman
 
@moywar700 said:

Being popular is irrelevant, she's still makes the trinity.

Marvel's flagship character is spider-man but their trinity is Thor,iron man, and captain america.

Marvel maybe pushing the whole "trinity" things theses days because of the film, but I have always found Marvel to have a "4 corner" kind of set up....Spider-Man, Avengers, Fantastic Four, and X-Men were always Marvels leading titles, In fact Iron Man was a glossed over character by fans only until about 5 years ago when his movie came out
#15 Posted by TheCannon (18710 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman should be the main one.

#16 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

No, she's a woman. /eyeroll.

#17 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

@kitsokk said:

makes it look like DC care about women.

As opposed to Marvel...oh wait.

DC does actually care about their women.

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#18 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

Being popular is irrelevant, she's still makes the trinity.

Marvel's flagship character is spider-man but their trinity is Thor,iron man, and captain america.

basically this and besides WW is a good character and holds a different part of the big 3

#19 Posted by Onemoreposter (4047 posts) - - Show Bio

She's an icon, simple enough. You recognize Wonder Woman. Despite however her book goes or how many toys she sells or how many movies and shows she gets, the name, the symbol and the character always remain prevalent and highly recognized. She is her own S shield.

#20 Edited by drgnx (3564 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on DCnU and the latest animations, It seems like DC is moving away from a "trinity". Superman and Wonder Women really seem to have been reduced to Muscle, with Flash and Aquaman remaining as additional/complementary firepower. All the while, Batman is coming up with strategies giving orders, while pushing Hal to step up as 2nd, and with Cyborg taking on more of the hardcore Tech/science role.

If they did got back to a trinity, it would be more about Superman/Batman having the best chemistry, with Wonder Women being the only person they both seem to get perfectly along with. So this would add to the chemistry, but in terms of powers, anyone could replace either her or Superman, but not in terms of personality/relationship. They could do another trinity with Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman, that would be comical. Cyborg is cool and all, but he seems more of a niche right now compared to MM, he would be the odd man out, but as the rookie, it is excusable.

#21 Posted by AssertingValor (5392 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp:

#22 Posted by wonderW (134 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder is one of the best in DCU her powers better then superman. we should be asking does batman need to be in the big 3 

#23 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

OMG of course she is the big 3, no one can replace her, no one.

#24 Posted by htb106 (1641 posts) - - Show Bio

why would you want to kick out the only woman in the justice league?

#25 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

@htb106 said:

why would you want to kick out the only woman in the justice league?

IKR ... She is the only female super hero worth being in the big 3 ... No one can replace, not GL not anyone ...

#26 Edited by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman belongs in the big three. She earned that title a long time ago when she was hugely popular along side Batman and Superman. Those three basically carried the whole comic-book industry (a time when girls actively read comics) while studios like Marvel almost went bankrupt. Marvel bounced back pretty well :P

Anyway Today

Wonder Woman is the most underrated under developed mainstream character in the comic-book universe. She is actually a great character with a great history. I believe she is the most dynamic of all the members of the justice league. Maybe too dynamic for some people.

She has a very interesting range of personalities but since nobody ever "finished" a POST CRISIS Wonder Woman TV show or movie which really brings out the best in her character, people have to literally read Wonder Woman comics from 1986 to 2012 to really know the character and find out her most consistent theme and I am sure only the most diehard fans have done that.

Lynda Carter TV Wonder Woman is very different than Post crisis Wonder Woman but still that show should be respected because it did help the Wonder Woman brand at the time.

Wonder Woman is also an "original" female comic book character meaning she is not created and did not originate as a spin off of Batman, Superman or some other male counterpart Superhero in any way which is basically the case for virtually all standalone female superheros who at one time had there own comic book.

Powergirl = Superman

Supergirl =Superman

Batgirl x3 or 4 versions = Batman

Catwoman = Batman

Huntress = Batman

Ms Marvel= Captain Marvel

She-Hulk = Hulk

ETC ETC

She should always be considered as the BIG THREE and in-fact she should be considered the QUEEN of the whole comic book industry based on the fact that no other female superhero has accomplished what Wonder Woman has in 70 years of comics.

Maybe that's why she cant get a TV or Movie gig. She is so high up on a pedestal that nobody wants to risk destroying that perfect image of Wonder Woman which nobody seems to be able to articulate and put on paper. Nobody wants to reveal the skeletons in her closet. Shes got some serious skeletons believe me LOL

Anyway Wonder Woman is the BIG 3 and deserves it.(and not just because she is a woman)

#27 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@kitsokk said:

Good point but keeping her in big 3 makes it look like DC care about women. Its a better pr thing

Or maybe because Superman Batman and Wonder Woman are the 3 most iconic superhero of all time?

#28 Posted by oraclefyre (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. She's iconic in her own right also.

#29 Posted by RoboShark (1271 posts) - - Show Bio

Right now that book is so good. It's getting higher and higher on my "Best for last" list each time a new issue is out.

#30 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

Aww hell no, Wonder Woman belongs there any retcon would be like removing moses's beard from the bible/torah/koran

#31 Posted by Hot_Karl (288 posts) - - Show Bio

She was always the other superhero that would come to mind when talking DC. It's Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman. That's the way I saw it. Even if you asked me to rattle off other DC heroes under them, I'd still probably say Flash or Aquaman before I'd say Green Lantern (and I've grown to become a huge GL fan in the past couple years or so).

I feel like she'd belong in the big three because she's an icon. The fact that she's a woman is almost moot, because the Wonder Woman signal/ideal has almost transcended gender boundaries at this point. She's a woman, yes, but that's but one of the things that makes her a household name, not the only thing or the only reason why she should be considered in the same territory as Batman or Superman.

#32 Posted by SC (13110 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, the Big Three/Trinity is sorta much about history and icon status than current book rankings and comic sales. Maybe when Green Lantern permeates into popular culture and has famous artists drawing him, and pop culture references in music, film, TV, for 50 plus years - might be an argument. If we made the criteria by number of books sold, then Big 3 would be constantly changing and rendering the term redundant. Mainstream appeal =/= comic success by the issue.   

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#33 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep .... Supes, Wondy and Bats are the most iconic superheroes in all of comics and time ... No one can disagree with this. So it's only right to have them in the big 3 ... If you take one of them out of the big 3 then its only the big 2 .... Because the hero who replaces one of the big 3 is not as iconic as these 3 superheroes ... Superman, Batman and Wonderwoman.

#34 Posted by wondergirl246 (27 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she belongs, if only because of the history and iconic status of the character. I do think that the balance has gotten out of wack though. Batman needs to be taken down a peg. The plot armor he gets is absurd.

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