Just to put it out there...Diana just trashed Supergirl. Knocked out! Ding! :D
Safe to assume now that she is indeed still very powerful in this New 52.
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Oh yay, more of heroes beating each other up.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
Oh yay, more of heroes beating each other up.
it is kinda sad................=(............however i did like it when wonder woman gave green lantern the beat down
i'm dissapointed in how they portray supergirl tho............... i didn't see the comic yet, did she even put up a fight?
To be honest, it is not that impressive considering what we already knew of Diana. In fact, I would have stopped reading her comics if there was any other outcome. WW should have clocked her though, I really wished she had, but Superboy already has so ...
Supergirl was schooled by Flash too (she was not holding back while he was). She has also been one shot by Superboy in a sneak attack in their second fight, but he in turn has already halted a surprise speedblitz from her with a single attack that made her think twice during their first fight. She only does good when people don't want to fight her, which is why she has wailed on Clark, and recently Superboy(who was deteriorating during their third fight) and Diana.
Wonder Women technically hinted that her and "super girl" are close in speed and strength, but differ in experience which puts WW on par with an untrained ~15 year old (not sure) Kryptonian female. In this case it was pretty much a skilled fighter vs an untrained one as that is where WW claimed her strengths lay.
@drgnx is right. She and Supergirl are roughly equal to each other but Diana training gave her an advantage. I would to see how Diana would fair against a trained Kryptonian like Faora.
What was up with Supergirl freeing herself from the Lasso though? She mentioned that she has other tricks too but I'm not really clear on what happened there. Did she release a burst of light radiation? What ever it was, it was strong enough to free her from the lasso's hold and knock Wonder Woman back.
@darkman61288 good question. i heard somewhere that Faora is gonna give superman the fight of his life in the man of steel movie, (he's gonna get doomsdayed by her).............hopefully she'll represent kryptonian women well (in terms of power).
kara is a full blood kryptonian, i think it should always be a no contest when it comes to fighting a half blood kryptonian clone.........how do you guys feel about that?
Supergirl did put up a fight here but she was overpowered...hog tied...knocked the living day lights out of her immensely. Even if she's untrained compared to Diana, you need somebody very very strong to knock Supergirl senseless. I highly doubt just being a warrior can knock Kara out cold, even if you combine Shiva, Huntress, and any other warrior type women in the league...they won't stand a chance against her. Diana's warrior skill and speed was shown here when she tied up Kara and was able to anticipate her moves, but it's her strength eventually that gave the finishing touch :D
@Press Oblivion: Yeah, I don't know what happened there as well, that alone would have ended the fight...but they have to think of something to give Kara a fighting chance I reckon :)
@marvel123: if thats the case in the comics as well the film than Diana might get beat by Faora.
@marvel123 said:
kara is a full blood kryptonian, i think it should always be a no contest when it comes to fighting a half blood kryptonian clone.........how do you guys feel about that?
He is genetically altered, i would not be surprised if his human DNA is also modified, not to mention he has a 3rd strand of DNA.
@darkman61288 said:
@drgnx is right. She and Supergirl are roughly equal to each other but Diana training gave her an advantage. I would to see how Diana would fair against a trained Kryptonian like Faora.
Supergirl's internal thoughts mentions that Diana was moving too fast for her to do anything, after she got serious. In other words, WW is far faster than Supergirl, and that was without removing her bracers to give herself a power boost.
@Press Oblivion said:
What was up with Supergirl freeing herself from the Lasso though? She mentioned that she has other tricks too but I'm not really clear on what happened there. Did she release a burst of light radiation? What ever it was, it was strong enough to free her from the lasso's hold and knock Wonder Woman back.
Basically, post-52, Supergirl has a few select powers Superman doesn't, due to spending years circling the sun before crashing to Earth. Mainly, the ability to explosively detonate a large amount of her stored solar radiation in a sudden eruption. That's what she did to free herself of Diana's lasso.
@Ravager4: Agree, Diana didn't need to remove her bracers just to take on Kara, it would have been a nanosecond fight if she did. She can even take H'el with one arm tied behind her back and blindfolded if she had her bracers off I reckon. :D
Maybe Supergirl just needs to learn more kung fu.
@Ravager4 said:
@darkman61288 said:
@drgnx is right. She and Supergirl are roughly equal to each other but Diana training gave her an advantage. I would to see how Diana would fair against a trained Kryptonian like Faora.
Supergirl's internal thoughts mentions that Diana was moving too fast for her to do anything, after she got serious. In other words, WW is far faster than Supergirl, and that was without removing her bracers to give herself a power boost.
There is a difference between the 2 speeds. In this case WW's rush was faster than Kara's reaction speed. She used her travel speed her to tackle Kara before she could react. This is different than the way Flash used his speed on her, wrapping Kara in the lasso was more a battle feat, They are probably on par offensively and maybe even, travel speed, but defensively WW would be light years ahead of SG, it is why WW stated she was more trained. Your reaction speed can still be lower than your raw speed.
@a88378438 said:
@Wboy: when ww no bracers,i think yes
@drgnx: superboy?no.supergirl take down him,the supergirl first not hold back to fight ..not like before
Why don't you post the scans before that? This is what happened right before S-Boy encountered S-Girl all of which clearly indicate he was already in pain. Scans showing Superboy got messed up by H'el even with the suit on, and 3 scan clearly indicating S-boy was hurting badly. There is like 1-2 pages before the fight starts. Supergirl was wailing on a handicapped Superboy in their last fight.






@a88378438: I think the difference between your scans and @drgnx: scan is...Superboy was already in a disadvantage before he took on Supergirl hence he lost big time, while the last scans, Kara was actually the one who started throwing the punches on Diana but eventually got beaten up. It's just how I see it. I like both characters tho :)
@Goddessa: I'm not prove supergirl beat superboy,i just cant agree superboy beat supergirl
the supergirl always hold back,but this time she was no hold back to fight with wonder woman(look scans)
and supergirl belive wonder woman as strong as superman,don't forget this time ww still has bracelet

no bracelet,ww should be as powerful as superman if not stronger than superman at least as strong as him
@a88378438 said:
@drgnx: so what?you say superboy beat supergirl,this scan just can prove superboy not full power,how can you be he beat supergirl?the supergirl not hold back too
I said and I quote
She has also been one shot by Superboy in a sneak attack in their second fight,


but he in turn has already halted a surprise speedblitz from her with a single attack that made her think twice during their first fight.




a88378438 said:

even wonder woman she still can fight with her
As I also said, and i quote
She only does good when people don't want to fight her, which is why she has wailed on Clark, and recently Superboy(who was deteriorating during their third fight) and Diana.
@Goddessa said:
@a88378438: I think the difference between your scans and @drgnx: scan is...Superboy was already in a disadvantage before he took on Supergirl hence he lost big time, while the last scans, Kara was actually the one who started throwing the punches on Diana but eventually got beaten up. It's just how I see it. I like both characters tho :)
Thanks, I'm just trying to point out the nobody should be overly excited about this fight, I can't imagine anyone would have thought Supergirl actually stood a chance against Wonder Women to the point where they think this is some ubber milestone.... this fight is a low showing for both characters...
@drgnx said:
@Goddessa said:
@a88378438: I think the difference between your scans and @drgnx: scan is...Superboy was already in a disadvantage before he took on Supergirl hence he lost big time, while the last scans, Kara was actually the one who started throwing the punches on Diana but eventually got beaten up. It's just how I see it. I like both characters tho :)
Thanks, I'm just trying to point out the nobody should be overly excited about this fight, I can't imagine anyone would have thought Supergirl actually stood a chance against Wonder Women to the point where they think this is some ubber milestone....
really?I heart you say supergirl=wonder woman,so that look like superboy also can beat wonder woman(though this not really)
@drgnx: eh,that was nothing.....supergirl even not really fight with him,they are not fight to death,supergirl one pound out superman too,only superman was stronger than her in fight

@a88378438: Believe me I know what you're saying, I've been a staunch fan of Wonder Woman since the days of Lynda Carter, in fact I know she's the greatest heroine there is, and no-one can convince me in this world otherwise. I also believe Supergirl is greater than Superboy in almost all their incarnations, there was a time during the COIE that Kara is the most powerful hero there is. Kara did things to the anti-monitor that the SuperMen failed to do.
Also with the way the New 52 WW is being portrayed in different DC title. I do believe she has retained her immense strength which she posses before this reboot, therefore I know with her braces ON she is almost as equal to Superman, but if she takes it OFF she can definitely give the TKO to him or to anyone. Warrior Training + Energy Boost (Equal to gods or more) = SURE WIN!
@drgnx: I agree, but there are a lot of Superman / Supergirl fans that still think Kara will win over Diana...if this was Kara that died in the Crisis, even I a WW die hard, would agree that Supergirl is the toughest character there is. But since after COIE, Diana became very consistent in DC' ranks as the top female. The storyline above (H'el On Earth) just cemented the fact again for the New 52 reboot that all other lady powerhouses in DC are Diana's subordinates :)
@a88378438 said:
@drgnx said:
@Goddessa said:
@a88378438: I think the difference between your scans and @drgnx: scan is...Superboy was already in a disadvantage before he took on Supergirl hence he lost big time, while the last scans, Kara was actually the one who started throwing the punches on Diana but eventually got beaten up. It's just how I see it. I like both characters tho :)
Thanks, I'm just trying to point out the nobody should be overly excited about this fight, I can't imagine anyone would have thought Supergirl actually stood a chance against Wonder Women to the point where they think this is some ubber milestone....
really?I heart you say supergirl=wonder woman,so that look like superboy also can beat wonder woman(though this not really)
I said, and I quote:
Wonder Women technically hinted that her and "super girl" are close in speed and strength, but differ in experience which puts WW on par with an untrained ~15 year old (not sure) Kryptonian female. In this case it was pretty much a skilled fighter vs an untrained one as that is where WW claimed her strengths lay.
If that was not clear, I mean in terms of Strength and Speed! Those are from Diana's own mouth. I"m not even going to address your ABC logic.
a88378438 said:
@drgnx: eh,that was nothing.....supergirl even not really fight with him,they are not fight to death,supergirl one pound out superman too,only superman was stronger than her in fight
That was not Superman, that a some kind of robot lifeform, which the real superman manhandled and owned







@Goddessa said:
@drgnx: @a88378438: There's probably a lost in translation somewhere there guys. LOL
I swear, 80% of my arguments on this forum are a result of misinterpretations of my points or intentions. My last few posts have been nothing but clarification @_@.
Perhaps I should hire a Drgnx - English translator. $$$$$
@drgnx
I swear, 80% of my arguments on this forum are a result of misinterpretations of my points or intentions. My last few posts have been nothing but clarification @_@.
Perhaps I should hire a Drgnx - English translator. $$$$$
LOL
@Goddessa: well.i'm not use any translation,I know my enligh was bad.@drgnx: my enligh was bad but I still know what you mean:
, but differ in experience which puts WW on par with an untrained ~15 year old (not sure) Kryptonian female.
WW=a 15 year old Kryptonian female
@a88378438: I think, correct me if I'm wrong, what @drgnx: mean was Diana is being pitted to a 15 yr old Kara with very limited training compared to her decades (or even centuries in some arguments) of fighting skills, which would have resulted to Diana's easy victory over Kara in this issue, considering they both have tremendous strength and speed. It is still a great feat to knock out a Kryptonian for most uber powered heroes, but considering Diana's stature as the top DC Diva, this was a walk in the park for her.
@Goddessa said:
Just to put it out there...Diana just trashed Supergirl. Knocked out! Ding! :D
Safe to assume now that she is indeed still very powerful in this New 52.
scan?
@Goddessa: hope so
but I'm just confusing,if robot superman can rape supergirl and real superman beat robot superman
they are power level was not same level...looks like superman far stronger than supergirl,and supergirl can match wonder woman in strength..
I hate this logic..if I';m wrong
@a88378438: Best not assume it but wait for them to actually fight it out. That's why no one can convince me that a particular hero, especially Marvel fanboys (particularly Thor fanboys), can defeat Diana...because if I follow that Marvel Hercules has beaten Thor, and Wonder Woman has beaten Marvel Hercules in there crossover years ago (pre New 52), so therefore WW owns Thor...or another instance in the same cross over Superman punched the hell out of Thor, and WW fought Superman to almost a draw, so therefore WW can definitely trash Thor. But I won't use that as fact unless Thor and Diana actually duke it out :)
@a88378438: Well at least these happened and we can actually gauge the powers of each characters, unlike what your logic is trying to imply between Superboy and WW. Unless they fight each other, lets all agree that WW beat Supergirl...and Supergirl beat Superboy in the recent fights. A win is a win whatever skills used.
@Goddessa: maybe you are right..but if one charater can move planets,and athoer charater not do this feats,but he can as strong as move planets charater,(in arm wresting,or something)so,can this logic to prove he also can move planets?
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