She did it again this month in WW 23, took off them bracelets. Didn't do her much good against FB, but then he also smacked Orion down in the same story, so how powerful is she with them off?
Wonder Woman
Character » Wonder Woman appears in 8808 issues.
The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.
Bracelets off, how powerful is WW?
That First Born fight was weak.
That First Born fight was weak.
because azzarello can't deliver when it comes to action,a comic like wonder woman with this lack of good action is really bad.
I think it's not really strength that increases without the bracelets but rather power. It's more like she's tapping into the Z in Shazam which stands for power of Zeus. The only reason that it wasn't very effective against the First Born is because he also shares Zeus's power. Against most others it's extremely effective due to it's mystical nature. There's no telling how much stronger she's become with Ares' power as well but I'd like to think Geoff Johns has been tapping into that the whole time in Justice League.
That First Born fight was weak.
a comic like wonder woman with this lack of good action is really bad.
Except Wonder Woman is not an action comic so no, that's not true at all.
@ghidoran: Yeah,New 52 wonder woman isnt action comic,So dont like it
@ghidoran:wonder woman is an action/adventure comic,good action has always been part of her comic,perez,ruka and simone runs had great stories and amazing action,this run has a never ending story about the baby and lack of action,the final battle of an arc should be epic,it should be well developed,so after following the whole arc it comes the climax,the final fight has to be something to remember that takes your breath away.
this are has beein dissapointing.
@gokuwarrior: Azzarello described early on that his story would be more like a horror story, what Perez and the others doesn't matter.
@gokuwarrior: Azzarello described early on that his story would be more like a horror story, what Perez and the others doesn't matter.
exactly
@degraaf said:
Yeah i cant wait to see them explain how much her power has jumped after becoming the God of War
I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, Azzarello isn't good with exposition. That would be too much like a super hero comic for him, he'd rather use puns and riddles.
@outside_85:well that's why she is weak and boring from a superhero comic angle.
@outside_85:well that's why she is weak and boring from a superhero comic angle.
No -- from a superhero comic angle, I find Wonder Woman strong and far from boring. You might be fixated on splash pages of battles and whatnot but there are fans of comics -- not just Wonder Woman -- who like superheros for the stories. I understand this is your opinion, but a character is far from being weak or boring if they aren't always in some physical battle or another.
@lykopis:i don't like her new origin and story,and her action and feats are way weaker than her pre 52 version.
Actually issue 12 already proved that the "Berserker mode" greatly increases her power. When she uncuffed in issue 23, it showcased that Diana does go insane as she did in the old comics. Her rage caused her to loose her edge and FB saw that weakness and exploited it. I mean it's not like she was she defeated, she was just knocked down similar to when Diana punched FB building.
WW wasn't down for very long and she could have to attacked FB at any time. But Instead of becoming an uncontrollable monster, she choose to be herself and defeat FB with skill. So yes it does raises her power, but it also causes her to loose control(it's noticeable weakness). Maybe Orion will help her to control her powers the same way he tries to control his own.
@gokuwarrior said:
@outside_85:well that's why she is weak and boring from a superhero comic angle.
It explains why it's not filled with idiots punching each other with little to no logic behind it.
@outside_85:in the past we used to get intense fights with a great story behind them,stop making excuses for azzarello's lack of talent to develop a great action scene.
Superman beat her in a nanosecond
Um, is that a joke or did that really happen?
@mpfly88:it's a way to express that he/she is mad because wonder woman hasn't the feats she used to have before new 52,while superman has better feats than pre 52 superman.
@outside_85:in the past we used to get intense fights with a great story behind them,stop making excuses for azzarello's lack of talent to develop a great action scene.
When?
@outside_85:perez run,ruka run and simone run,they had intense fights properly developed with good argument,they had great fights with great stories behind them.
@outside_85:perez run,ruka run and simone run,they had intense fights properly developed with good argument,they had great fights with great stories behind them.
Only great fight provided by those people were Rucka having her face off against Medusa, the rest arent worth remembering.
@outside_85:medusa fight wasn't that great,ruka had much better fights than that,perez and simone too,are you saying those were bad runs?,LOL,they destroy azzarello's run by far,much better quality in the story and in the action.
@outside_85:medusa fight wasn't that great,ruka had much better fights than that,perez and simone too,are you saying those were bad runs?,LOL,they destroy azzarello'srun by far,much better quality in the story and in the action.
Stop talking bs.
Eh
Superman beat her in a nanosecond
Um, is that a joke or did that really happen?
Joke,but I dont know why people so funny,when they are dont care about "feat",AZZ's said wonder woman as strong as superman,but Superman bench earth five days,FTL and got more and more crazy feats,lol
@outside_85:sorry azzarello has nothing on perez,ruka and simone,they are her best runs,the fight with cheetah on savage moon,her fight with shim tar,the fight with superman in sacrifice,her fight witth genocide,etc,those are examples of great stories with great fights.
@gokuwarrior said:
@outside_85:sorry azzarello has nothing on perez,ruka and simone,they are her best runs,the fight with cheetah on savage moon,her fight with shim tar,the fight with superman in sacrifice,her fight witth genocide,etc,those are examples of great stories with great fights.
It says a lot about your ideas of quality if you think Simone's editorially crippled run was better than Azzarello's. And lets not forget we are unlikely to see Genocide ever again in that form.
As far as I am concerned, Azzarello is in the middle of writing the best WW story ever published, everyone else wrote, at best, decent comic books.
@outside_85:think whatever you want,perez,ruka and simone are much better,azzarello will never surpass perez run,the best wonder woman run so far.
@gokuwarrior:
Yes I think I will continue to think whatever I want, and I will rest in the warm glow of being right.
@outside_85:be right?,maybe the right to be wrong,that's all you have.
@gokuwarrior: No, just being right, since you are apparently no judge of quality.
@outside_85:i like quality,that's why i know that azzarello can't come close to the perfection that perez run is.
@gokuwarrior: It's strange because you give every indication of having no understanding of the word.
I'm not digging the whole new God of War thing. I mean I guess I can see how it can make for interesting new material, but it just seems so out of left field, especially considering this is never mentioned at all during the Justice League run which takes place years after. Unless I'm mistaken.
So that either means her reign of God of War will be short lived, or this is just some serious handwaving. On top of that isn't Wonder Woman already powerful enough?
Demi-Goddess.
Flight.
Insanely good reflexes.
Bulletproof.
Best Melee Fighter on Earth.
Strongest Female Superhero, close to Superman's base stength level.
Arsenal of powerful magical weapons.
Can take off bracelets to go Super Saiyan.
No known kryptonite-like weaknesses.
and now....
The new God of War
You know, I understand Wonder Woman fans flip out when this term is used, but sorry I calls it like I sees it. Wonder Woman has slipped into Overpowered territory. Possibly more OP than Superman. Yeah Superman.
Cause what's worse? Superman going rogue, or Wonder Woman going rogue? At least with Superman he's vulnerable to magic so you can send some magic users with powerful sorcery his way, or use Kryptonite against him. There's contingency plans there. But Wonder Woman? Not saying they wouldn't be able to take her down, but it would definitely take more effort to do so.
Tell me I'm wrong here cause I don't think I am =/
@mpfly88: Superman bench earth weight five days,how can be close him in strength?
I have no idea.
That First Born fight was weak.
Yeah didn't quite liked that issue.
@mpfly88: new 52 wonder woman hasn't the feats she had before new 52,going bu¿y feats,she seems weaker in the new 52.
OVER 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!
over 9,000 what?.
@powerwoman: that would be ridiculous,comic characters power can't be measured by DBZ rules,ki doesn't even exist in comic world.
OVER 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I don't get the hate for this issue. It was my favourite of Azzarello's run to date. As for Diana's bracelets off power level, though it hasn't been determined how powerful Diana is bracelets off, when she fought Artemis with them on, she only won through strategy and tactical thinking
Whereas with her bracelets off, the first time they fought, Diana overwhelmed Artemis with her strength and speed
Then we have her fight with the First Born. Whilst none of her hits properly fazed the First Born or drew blood bracelets on
With her bracelets off, she draws blood from the First Born in their next fight. So I don't think it's unreasonable to assume taking off her bracelets does boost her power a good deal.
Also, from a Newsarama interview he did about the issue, Azzarello makes some mention about what the bracelets off mode does to Diana
Nrama: Yeah, she does. And she has added power when she takes off her gauntlets?
Azzarello: That's containing her divinity, her god-like power.
CREDIT: DC Comics
Nrama: The gauntlets are?
Azzarello: Yeah. That's from old Wonder Woman lore. I didn't invent that. She wore those cuffs to protect other people from herself.
Nrama: Yeah, the Amazons had slave bracelets or something like that, right?
Azzarello: Yeah. I just gave it another layer by saying it kept her godliness in check.
So that not only shows the bracelets hold her power back, it shows Azzarello paying homage to the Golden Age lore. So there's your respecting Diana's past right there.
@lvenger: hmmmm seems legit
@lifeofvibe: Just my two cents on the bracelets off capabilities of what Diana can do. She has even more abilities now as Goddess of War.
@lvenger: Nice...I'm just hate dc,If superman isnt bench earth weight five days that all was good,but for now?it;s just a joke
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