@4_color_image said:
@jphulk26 said:
some of these guys are useable. alot of them not. The Nazi guys were good villains for the time, but it would be hard to translate them into todays context, although I´d like to see an attempt. Alot of these guys are a bit goofy, but I´ve enboldened the ones I think can be used from a modern readers point of view. where´s Ares?
I have never liked Ares as a Wonder Woman Rogue & now he is her Father Figure so I say keep him in that context. The Nazi characters could easily translate in to White Supremacists or some other wacko faction of society. Crimson Centipede could be reinterpreted into a 'The Fly' type mad scientist who turns himself into a human/ insect hybrid monster or again a cult calling themselves the Crimson Centipede kinda like Kobra. I like the idea of Diana taking on various cult groups since she is herself Pagan.
I´m at a loss to people who say they don´t like Ares. But that in all honesty is irrellevant to me. The reason I picked the ones I did is because I was thinking of the reception of a general audience. Ares is by far the easiest of WW villains that a modern audience could swallow and get behind. The others as they are a bit whacky. Ares is quite easliy modernized and he´s a concept that everyone can get, plus he opposes the very thing that it is WW mission to spread i.e. peace. So, I think any WW fan should see why pushing Ares as one of her main villains at the moment, when her popularity and her legacy is so under threat would get that as an idea. He was a great villain and foil in the animated film, and he just makes more sense to a contemporary audience than Minister Freeze or the Snowman. I mean truly, what is more likely to get people to tune into a TV show of WW? or watch a film? or, pick up a comic? a villain who is the God Of War or a villain called the Snowman. Once she´s established with some villains that are more friendly to modern sensibilities then of course they can start bringing in some of her more colorful rogues.
By the way what comic have you read with these guys as the main villains that you like? just curious: cause I´ve never even read a WW comic with Minister Freeze or The Snowman in it.
Oh, I like your idea about the White Supremacist´s. Like they could make Red Panza the head of a white supremicist group, maybe he was a Nazi scientist brought over to the states after WW2, he was working on some metagene project. While their he figured out how to use the meta-gene to acquire powers including immortality, which has allowed him to live so long. They could develop something out of that and bring in Von Gunther as well.
OH AND THEY NEED TO GIVE HER BACK HER OLD ORIGIN. I HATE THE NEW ONE, ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT ARES BEING A FATHER FIGURE TO HER.
@sethysquare said:
@RideASpaceCowboy: thats not very fair. fatality is a gl villain. talia and lady shiva is a batman villain.
if wonder woman have to steal some villains, she should only take it from batman.
granny goodness and female furies are all for grabs.
She doesn´t have to steal any villains. DC just need to get their act together.
@Joygirl said:
Interesting thread. I don't know a lot of these rogues but some of them sound cool. Not crazy about new Cheetah turning other people into Cheetahs -- it is kinda like Lobo's cloning. Just too much. For one arc, maybe, then has to be dialed back.
I don´t know, I was pretty impressed by Johns use of Cheetah. I hope he develops upon that idea a lot more, because it will finally make her match for WW. Maybe the affect could be temporary, but while they are like that she controls them. It makes her much more of a menace. See what Johns dud with Cheetah, is what the New 52 should be doing with all of WW rogues. Like @4_color_image said WW has a great list of rogues that just need to be given some development and modernized.
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