Wolverine Vs Scarlet Spider

#1 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

For those of you who don't follow Scarlet Spider in issue 17 its been stated that Kaine has been hired to kill Wolverine by the Assassins Guild. Not being a big Logan follower I just wondered if anyone could explain why the Assassins Guild want poor old Wolvie dead?

Scarlet Spider 17

Any of you Wolverine followers gonna be picking this up? Also in the solicits it says Kaine is going to be attacking him at his school. How many mutants are actually at Logan's school currently? I don't like Kaine's odds if theres a lot lol!

#2 Posted by JakeN7 (11533 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Wow! That's amazing! Wolverine and Spider-Man are my #2 and #3 favorite superheroes of all time, respectively. How can I not get this!? I've been meaning to get into Scarlet Spider, but haven't found the time. Is #17 a new arc? Or would I have to go back to the most recent jumping-on point? And what issue would that be exactly? This just looks so cool. That cover is beautiful. Also, what's with Kaine's new look? It looks very reminiscent of Peter's "Big Time" suit (with red lights instead of green) I'm digging it!

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#3 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@JakeN7: I think its going to be a new arc. The current arc ends in issue 15 and 16 is a filler so I would guess 17 is most likely a new arc. As for Kaine's look that IS the same costume Peter made during Big Time Kaine basically stole it from him at the end of Spider-Island lol. Madame Webb changed the suit to make it look like the red and black one he normally wears. I guess Kaine got bored with the colour scheme and changed it back. We'll have to wait and see. It might be something to do with Kaine dying and being ressurected and getting some new powers from the Other in the last issue.

#4 Posted by JakeN7 (11533 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@JakeN7: I think its going to be a new arc. The current arc ends in issue 15 and 16 is a filler so I would guess 17 is most likely a new arc. As for Kaine's look that IS the same costume Peter made during Big Time Kaine basically stole it from him at the end of Spider-Island lol. Madame Webb changed the suit to make it look like the red and black one he normally wears. I guess Kaine got bored with the colour scheme and changed it back. We'll have to wait and see. It might be something to do with Kaine dying and being ressurected and getting some new powers from the Other in the last issue.

Hmm...very cool, thanks for the info! That thing about the suit is hilarious. Would you recommend just going ahead and jumping in with this issue? Or would you suggest backtracking and catching up a bit?

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#5 Edited by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@JakeN7: ermmm you could jump straight in but as in the solicits it says that the Assassins guild have hired him to kill Logan it might be worth reading Scarlet Spider 3-4 as it follows Kaine's fight against the Assassins Guild and why he has agreed to help them here. At a guess I would say that is the prequel to this story (+ the art in those issues is awesome).

#6 Posted by JakeN7 (11533 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@JakeN7: ermmm you could jump straight in but as in the solicits it says that the Assassins guild have hired him to kill Logan it might be worth reading Scarlet Spider 3-4 as it follows Kaine's fight against the Assassins Guild and why he has agreed to help them here. At a guess I would say that is the prequel to this story.

Ok cool, thanks. I'll try and check out the first trade.

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#7 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@JakeN7: I think the TPB is called "Life After Death" and collects issues 1-6 that should contain the background info :)

#8 Posted by JakeN7 (11533 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@JakeN7: I think the TPB is called "Life After Death" and collects issues 1-6 that should contain the background info :)

You're so damn helpful. I'm gonna un-follow you, just so I can follow you again. Lol.

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#9 Posted by LastOblivion (100 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, cool. I need to start reading Scarlet Spider...

Maybe he'll simply get to Wolverine using the stealth thing. lol

#10 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@LastOblivion: According to Yost he's going to use Aracely to "distract" the other mutants. No idea what he means by that maybe her TP skills are going to become OPed over the next few issues lol. If not I don't see how she'll keep them all distracted.

#11 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (2888 posts) - - Show Bio

I will pick this up, and there is a crapload of mutants at the school....

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#12 Posted by ChaosMarvel (997 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@LastOblivion: According to Yost he's going to use Aracely to "distract" the other mutants. No idea what he means by that maybe her TP skills are going to become OPed over the next few issues lol. If not I don't see how she'll keep them all distracted.

Well it was shown in issue 13 that Aracely is the host of an Aztec god. I'm guessing that having a god on your side when confronting a school full of mutants is probably a good thing. Especially is she manages to gain full control over her abilities.

Anyway i'll be picking this up!

#13 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

Granted it's in Kaine's own book, I'm gonna get this rubbed in my face by Jashro and Strider.

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#14 Edited by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Who moi!? I would never do something like that! How dare you think so low of me :p

In issue 18 they team up to beat the crap out of the Assassins Guild so you never know their initial fight might be inconclusive or interrupted by another mutant. I still don't see how Aracely is going to be able to keep the all distracted tbh.

#15 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: I just don't Logan to get SpOcked again lol. But SS has been one of the best consistent books from Marvel lately so I have faith in Yost.

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#16 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Yeah Yost should do it justice. Its not like Ennis is writing it......lol

#17 Posted by jashro44 (20555 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@Strider92: I just don't Logan to get SpOcked again lol. But SS has been one of the best consistent books from Marvel lately so I have faith in Yost.

Yost is the one who wrote the Spock beat down :p so don't get your hopes up to much

#18 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@god_spawn said:

@Strider92: I just don't Logan to get SpOcked again lol. But SS has been one of the best consistent books from Marvel lately so I have faith in Yost.

Yost is the one who wrote the Spock beat down :p so don't get your hopes up to much

I know, but I was hoping for a lightning doesn't strike twice kinda deal >_>.

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#19 Posted by jashro44 (20555 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: lol well we will see. All though Kaine could end up fighting multiple mutants here. Unless he spends the entire fight in stealth mode.

#20 Posted by k4tzm4n (39391 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't help but wonder how long this "other" development will last. 

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#21 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

I can't help but wonder how long this "other" development will last.

I hope not long tbh. I saw it at the end of the issue when he transformed and thought it looked horrible.

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#22 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17809 posts) - - Show Bio

I really want this!

but Kaine should win, well at leats IMO, though not in the way it went down in Avenging spider-man.

Though to be fair wolverine was completely cough of guard , and he should have never been Ko'd, considering wolverine has taken a beat down from WWH and others like him. sooooo i have faith in yost.

But if it does happen there are a certain people who i will BUG about this. HUR HUR HUR!

#23 Edited by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@k4tzm4n said:

I can't help but wonder how long this "other" development will last.

I hope not long tbh. I saw it at the end of the issue when he transformed and thought it looked horrible.

The "Other" development itself is going to last a long time. However his new form will not. Kaine is back to normal by issue 17 as seen in the preview art. However whatever abilities he gains from his transformation are there to stay and from what Yost has said they seem to be inside and not outside. Unless he is able to shift between being human and being the "Other" at will. A Were-Spider lol:

Do I spy Superior in that last panel! I think so!!!!!

#24 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: As long as the form is lost, I can live with the new transformation.

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#25 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@k4tzm4n said:

I can't help but wonder how long this "other" development will last.

I hope not long tbh. I saw it at the end of the issue when he transformed and thought it looked horrible.

Agree entirely

#26 Posted by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like they are gonna team-up against the Assassins Guild:

#27 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: Kaine looks very effeminate in that cover.

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#28 Edited by Strider92 (16241 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Teerack (5745 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine couldn't beat Spider-man no way He'll be able to beat Kane with his more vicious fighting style and his The Other powers.

#30 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: No, it's definitely effeminate Kaine. He gotz them dancer legs. And Logan looks like he is stabbing people with straws. I hate this cover already.

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#31 Posted by MortalX360 (3 posts) - - Show Bio

So how is it again that Kane is suppose to kill Wolverine? He rips out his hart & splits it in half right? How is this possible do to the fact Wolverines bones are laced with adamantium which is suppose to be an indestructible, uncutable substance.

#32 Posted by God_Spawn (37585 posts) - - Show Bio

So how is it again that Kane is suppose to kill Wolverine? He rips out his hart & splits it in half right? How is this possible do to the fact Wolverines bones are laced with adamantium which is suppose to be an indestructible, uncutable substance.

He doesn't rip anything out. He just stabs Wolverine in the spacing between the ribs and cuts it in half.

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#33 Posted by Avenger85 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

Cecil Peoples has it at 31-29 for Logan via SD.

#34 Posted by Theindiedudes (218 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved this fight

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