A long-lived mutant with the rage of a beast and the soul of a Samurai, James "Logan" Howlett's past is filled with blood, war, and betrayal. Possessing an accelerated healing factor, enhanced senses, and bone claws that, along with his skeleton, are coated in adamantium, Wolverine is the ultimate weapon.
Well, Timber Wolf didn't get that healing factor until after Wolverine, during his reboot, and plenty of characters wore their hair like that (The Owl, for example). That mask, though - come on, seriously... (Who is that, btw?)
@BenReilly: Deadlock. He's a Rob Liefeld character, clearly during the time when he was going out of his way to take stabs at Marvel by making clones of their characters.
@Kairan1979: as was I but about Shadowhawk. like I said, most of the Image creators felt at the time as of Marvel had absconded their creations, and I think it was blatant that they were trying to get under Marvels skin intentionally by making hugely similar characters, especially in Liefeld's case, who can tend to be a bit rebellious. I think Fighting American and Smash will back me up here. ;)
@zombietag: actually, Dark Claw = Wolverine + Batman.
well no duh, but that was on purpose. im saying shadowhawk resembles both of them a lot. also, some moon knight in there it seems. but nothing new under the sun right? i mean most of the characters we see now are based on previous stories already told.
Timber Wolf was kind of a normal guy until Cockrum redesigned everything about him...the Same Cockrum who developed Wolverine into the character he became, then Timber Wolf took some aspects of Wolverine, So if its the same writer, I think its more Timber Wolf was a template for Wolverine
Template, Rip-off, inspiration, . . . it's a case of semantics. Timber Wolf came first. Wolverine came next.
Cockrum (an artist, not a writer, by the way) was the one who'd redesigned Timber Wolf and then later used some of those same elements in his depiction and the over-all development of Wolverine. There is definitely an obvious infleunce and linear connection.
Yet you contend Wolverine not being a rip-off of Timber Wolf is debatable? Hah! That's rich.
even if wolvies a rip-off of dog boy over there, he WAY BETTER. plus there werent that many powers or hair does back then so they used what was popular and what they had.
*sigh*...the whole Timberwolf v. Wolverine debate again. Ok....Originally Timberwolf looked nothing like he does now. He did not have a healing factor. He did not have enhanced senses. And he looked like this. He was called Lone Wolf. And he led a gang called the "Lone Wolves". (bwahahahaha....)
Clearly, Wolverine wasn't based on THIS. (Cause THIS is LAME.)
Post Zero-Hour, during one of DC's many reboots (/cop-outs), and of course post the huge popularity of Wolverine (and his generally feral powers and demeanor), Timberwolf was given the same attributes. And with every reboot he became more and more like Wolverine, until they decided to make him a "lycanthrope" this time. Somewhere along the way he also gained a "bad temper". The only thing he may have beaten Wolvie to was the hairdo. Everything else about Wolvie (Weapon X, the 3-Claw design, Adamantium, Lack of memory, and the supercool scrapper-dude persona) is original Wolvie. Only reason anyone even remembers TWolf is his similarity to Wolverine.
And yeah the Guy in the Pic....he does seem to be one of maybe 30 Image characters who were Wolvie rip-offs.
Template, Rip-off, inspiration, . . . it's a case of semantics. Timber Wolf came first. Wolverine came next.
Cockrum (an artist, not a writer, by the way) was the one who'd redesigned Timber Wolf and then later used some of those same elements in his depiction and the over-all development of Wolverine. There is definitely an obvious infleunce and linear connection.
Yet you contend Wolverine not being a rip-off of Timber Wolf is debatable? Hah! That's rich.
I just saw this cute post directed at me, yeah it is rich, because how is Wolverine a rip off of Timber Wolf when Timber wolf had no characteristics of Wolverine to begin with...they were added after Wolverine was around...so yeah that would be considered a template or motif for a character...its definitely not blatant
Just because he has claws smiler to her does not make him a rip off. Is she a Native American? Can she channel the spirits of animals?
They don't have to be completely similar characteristics for him to be a rip-off.That's like saying Sentry isn't a Superman Rip-off because he's not an alien and is schizophrenic.When he clearly draws inspiration from Supes. Cyberforce is clearly taking alot of reference from X-Men.
Just because he has claws smiler to her does not make him a rip off. Is she a Native American? Can she channel the spirits of animals?
They don't have to be completely similar characteristics for him to be a rip-off.That's like saying Sentry isn't a Superman Rip-off because he's not an alien and is schizophrenic.When he clearly draws inspiration from Supes. Cyberforce is clearly taking alot of reference from X-Men.
Drawing inspiration from and ripping off are two totally different things
Drawing inspiration from and ripping off are two totally different things
I'm aware of that but what comic fans call rip-offs don't actually fit that definition.No character ACTUALLY rips off another or there would be legal issues.You're taking the term to literal.
HA! THIS upsets you? Half of Image comic's quote unquote "original" charactors from the ninties are Wolverine rip offs, and the other half were rip-offs of other charactors. They got better over time, but take a closer look at eary issues of youngblood.
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