Wolverine Origins movie

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#1 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio

With the movie looking like it's set to release May 2009, this thread is to discuss the new Wolverine movie coming up (The other thread was an old thread asking whether it was a good idea or bad idea to make the movie). Here's what is known about it as of now:

Plot Synopsis:

"Leading up to the events of X-Men, X-Men Origins: Wolverine – written by David Benioff (The Kite Runner, Troy) – tells the story of Wolverine's epically violent and romantic past, his complex relationship with Victor Creed, and the ominous Weapon X program. Along the way, Wolverine encounters many mutants, both familiar and new, including surprise appearances by several legends of the X-Men universe."

http://www.efavata.com/CBM/

Wolverine's going to be played by Hugh Jackman, Liev Schreiber is Sabretooth, Michael C. Hall as young Stryker, Michelle Monaghan as Silver Fox.

There's also rumors that Gambit will be in the movie played by Bailey Chase.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458525/

#2 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Buckshot (18867 posts) - - Show Bio

Think they'll follow the Origin comic or make their own? Wonder what they'll do with the Sabretooth thing.

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#4 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Think they'll follow the Origin comic or make their own? Wonder what they'll do with the Sabretooth thing. "

They might follow the Origin Comic to an extent. Nothing gets followed exactly. So I'm putting my money on a hybrid of the comic and their own thing.

#5 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Buckshot says:
"Think they'll follow the Origin comic or make their own? Wonder what they'll do with the Sabretooth thing. "
They might follow the Origin Comic to an extent. Nothing gets followed exactly. So I'm putting my money on a hybrid of the comic and their own thing."

agreed

#6 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - - Show Bio

This movie could be 8 hours long.....

#7 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol

#8 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

right....

Are they gonna do, weapon x. Ninja training, Alpha flight, memory inplants, being born in 1800's....?

#9 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawk says:

"Nighthunter says:
"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

right....

Are they gonna do, weapon x. Ninja training, Alpha flight, memory inplants, being born in 1800's....?"

shhh let me have my movie ideas lol

#10 Posted by Frisco (285 posts) - - Show Bio

It's definately going to be a hybrid, with familiar and new faces. Plus, how long and complex would the movie be if it did all of Wolverine's origin?

#11 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - - Show Bio

"They" srewed up the X-men timeline ......I'm scared for this movie.....could be great....could start me cussing

#12 Posted by Buckshot (18867 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't mean to change the topic too much, but I don't like making new threads and this kinda fits. For some reason I was looking at Wolverine's page on Wikipedia and I saw his two "intended origins". It's the second one that I'm actually posting about.

"Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's face (an enemy of Iron Fist, who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid Adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used."

A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie?

I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (if both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though.

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#13 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

I believe that Deapool is in the movie. I had heard something about it on superhero hype. I'll do some digging and see if I can find where it said that.

#14 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

well deadpool was part of weapon x,so i think he is in it

#15 Posted by Frisco (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Don't mean to change the topic too much, but I don't like making new threads and this kinda fits. For some reason I was looking at Wolverine's page on Wikipedia and I saw his two "intended origins". It's the second one that I'm actually posting about.
"Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's face (an enemy of Iron Fist, who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid Adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used."

A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie?

I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (if both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though.

"

That sounds pretty interesting, and could make a cool movie. [Assuming the writers don't mess it up, followed by the actors, and finally the film editors...]

#16 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Don't mean to change the topic too much, but I don't like making new threads and this kinda fits. For some reason I was looking at Wolverine's page on Wikipedia and I saw his two "intended origins". It's the second one that I'm actually posting about.
"Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's face (an enemy of Iron Fist, who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid Adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used."
A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie? I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (*if* both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though. "

I like that origin alot.....it makes sense...which is why they didn't use it I bet.

#17 Posted by Frisco (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawk says:

I like that origin alot.....it makes sense...which is why they didn't use it I bet."

L0L.

#18 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

what about lady deathstrike ?

#19 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah all I could find was rumor about Deadpool being in it and Maverik as well. Since it's just rumors I wouldn't hold my breath sorry.

#20 Posted by Shatterstar (4437 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Don't mean to change the topic too much, but I don't like making new threads and this kinda fits. For some reason I was looking at Wolverine's page on Wikipedia and I saw his two "intended origins". It's the second one that I'm actually posting about.
"Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's face (an enemy of Iron Fist, who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid Adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used."

A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie?

I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (if both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though.

"

Sounds good to me. Easier to comprehend than the convoluted mess that his origin turned into thats for sure.

BTW dollars to donuts bet that the movie sucks horribly. Aside from the strong likelihood that its yet another Marvel cash in, apparently its also got no writers actively working on it because of the strike and two directors turned it down already. Not good signs.


Post Edited:2008-01-23 04:49:49

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#21 Posted by Unbelonger (2770 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like to see a Wolverine's Death Moive. It would have to be creative, plus origin stories are getting tiring, at least for me.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

#22 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Think they'll follow the Origin comic or make their own? Wonder what they'll do with the Sabretooth thing. "

I think it will be a mix, as how all hollywood comic movies turn out to be, but I have a feeling that there will be more comic related elements in this movie. David Benioff is the writer of the movie and this is what he told to Wizard Magazine.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/wolverinemovie/005458455.cfm

"I’ve been reading Wolverine comics for 23 years,” admitted the writer. And while he couldn’t discuss specific elements of his script, Benioff did hint at his favorite Wolvie stories. “I went back and reread the Chris Claremont and Frank Miller miniseries, and the Barry Windsor-Smith Weapon X."

Shatterstar says:

"BTW dollars to donuts bet that the movie sucks horribly. Aside from the strong likelihood that its yet another Marvel cash in, apparently its also got no writers actively working on it because of the strike and two directors turned it down already. Not good signs.
Post Edited:2008-01-23 04:49:49"

I heard the script was done already and filming starts soon.

Buckshot says:

"Don't mean to change the topic too much, but I don't like making new threads and this kinda fits. For some reason I was looking at Wolverine's page on Wikipedia and I saw his two "intended origins". It's the second one that I'm actually posting about.
"Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's face (an enemy of Iron Fist, who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid Adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used."

A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie?

I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (if both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though.

"

Yeah I think that's a pretty cool origin, not sure if it's true though. Does anyone know if Wolverine really can't regrow his bones? I'll see if I can find something from issues after Fatal Attractions.

#23 Posted by Phoenix God (389 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you think they will leave it open for another Wolverine movie that does not tie him to the X-Men yet (so they can get 3 Wolverine movies?

Do you think they will have him run across the X-Men with neither side knowing or caring who the other is (you know, for the 'oh, it's so and so from that X-men movie?'). For example, him briefly seeing or the X-Men briefly seeing the other? Like Charles (Patrick Stewart) tracing Wolverine with Cerebro several years before he sends the X-Men to "save" him and Rogue from Sabretooth (and we would know it was years because he will turn around and talk to a teenage Jean Grey and Cyclops)?

Just some food for thought.

#24 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix God says:

"Do you think they will leave it open for another Wolverine movie that does not tie him to the X-Men yet (so they can get 3 Wolverine movies?Do you think they will have him run across the X-Men with neither side knowing or caring who the other is (you know, for the 'oh, it's so and so from that X-men movie?'). For example, him briefly seeing or the X-Men briefly seeing the other? Like Charles (Patrick Stewart) tracing Wolverine with Cerebro several years before he sends the X-Men to "save" him and Rogue from Sabretooth (and we would know it was years because he will turn around and talk to a teenage Jean Grey and Cyclops)?Just some food for thought. "

I hope they don't make 3 more Wolverine movies.

The movie is supposed to be 17 years before the X-Men movies happened, so that was around the time Jean and Cyclops were just recruited by Xavier (in the movies), I don't see any X-Men cameo happening unless they were involved in the Weapon X story.

#25 Posted by Buckshot (18867 posts) - - Show Bio

zero edge says:

"Does anyone know if Wolverine really can't regrow his bones? I'll see if I can find something from issues after Fatal Attractions."

Pretty sure that would have been something done because of that origin. Current Wolverine has healed from having his legs crushed.

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#26 Posted by Constantine (16044 posts) - - Show Bio

how will they put it in a 2 hour movie?

#27 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"zero edge says:
"Does anyone know if Wolverine really can't regrow his bones? I'll see if I can find something from issues after Fatal Attractions."

Pretty sure that would have been something done because of that origin. Current Wolverine has healed from having his legs crushed."

Were his legs laced with adamantium at that time?

#28 Posted by Buckshot (18867 posts) - - Show Bio

No, they were bone.

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#29 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"A few questions: There was no citation there so I was wondering, is it true? What do you think of that origin? Should his intended origins be on his page? To make it more thread appropriate, think they could use it in the movie? I like that origin. People expect some sort of connection between Wolverine and Sabretooth and that one delivers. I also like the bone thing, the surprise claws and the reason for Wolverine's rages. I think the intended origins (*if* both were really going to be used at one point) should be on the page. Don't feel like doing it though. "

I have heard of this origin before, to the extent that at one point Sabretooth was going to be Logan's father. I had never heard anything about his healing factor not healing his bones though.

I like the origin much better than the one they are using now but I wouldnt be totally satisfied with him not being able to heal his bones. Not that it would be a big problem once they were laced with or replaced by adamantium ones.

By the way I'm reading "surprise claws" the way that I think it was originally intended. When they were first writing Wolverine he didn't have bone claws. In fact until Magneto stripped him of his adamantium it was common knowledge that the claws were add ons and the Marvel encyclopedias even had diagrams of how they worked, showing their internal housing and everything. I have never liked the bone claws and have always envisioned Wolverine as having had pure adamantium claws implanted in his body to make him more dangerous.

I bet you knew that but I'm putting it out there for anyone who didnt.

#30 Posted by Methias (437 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Sabretooth say he was his father more than a few times. Maybe I imagined it lol.

#31 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Methias says:

"Didn't Sabretooth say he was his father more than a few times. Maybe I imagined it lol."

I remember him implying that they may have been related but never actually coming out and saying that he was Logan's father.

#32 Posted by Phoenix God (389 posts) - - Show Bio

In Ultimate X-Men Sabretooth says he is Wolverine's son.

#33 Posted by Methias (437 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Methias says:
"Didn't Sabretooth say he was his father more than a few times. Maybe I imagined it lol."
I remember him implying that they may have been related but never actually coming out and saying that he was Logan's father."

I can't find the scan now, but in one issue (don't know what but they are in their old costumes) Creed says "It's your everloving daddy" or something as he is surprise attacking Logan.

#34 Posted by Methias (437 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"F#CK WOLVERINE."

Ya, he's just a freaking Deadpool wannabe anyways

#35 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm hopeing this movie will turn out to be good.

#36 Posted by Methias (437 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Methias says:
"Colt Python says:
"F#CK WOLVERINE."
Ya, he's just a freaking Deadpool wannabe anyways"
Now your going to far."

LOL

#37 Posted by Imperial (221 posts) - - Show Bio

So, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool :D

#38 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawk says:

"Nighthunter says:
"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

right....

Are they gonna do, weapon x. Ninja training, Alpha flight, memory inplants, being born in 1800's....?"

you were saying? :P

#39 Posted by Imperial (221 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Hawk says:
"Nighthunter says:
"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

right....

Are they gonna do, weapon x. Ninja training, Alpha flight, memory inplants, being born in 1800's....?"

you were saying? :P"

It feel good being right. doesn't it? ;)

#40 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Imperial says:

"Nighthunter says:
"Hawk says:
"Nighthunter says:
"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"

right....

Are they gonna do, weapon x. Ninja training, Alpha flight, memory inplants, being born in 1800's....?"

you were saying? :P"

It feel good being right. doesn't it? ;)"

it real does lol

#41 Posted by Wolverine-Is-Hot (44 posts) - - Show Bio

I think a movie is a great idea! i would love to find out what he has been through and everything, when did you say its coming out? 2009 may? thats a long ways away don't cha think?

#42 Posted by Sabretooth667 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

All I care about is that Sabretooth is back on film baby!. Anyone know if the guy acting as him is any good at all?
Post Edited:2008-05-07 20:12:41

#43 Posted by Snowman (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Deadpool is gonna be ryan reynolds. Sabretooth is going to be good because he kind of got shafted in the first movie, although I wish they had brought back the same guy that played him the first time. My only question is how is Barnell Bohusk aka Beak going to play into Wolverine's origin?

#44 Posted by frogman55 (81 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"they should also put Deadpool, not because I like him, but because it makes sense lol"
He is going to be in it so is Maggot
#45 Posted by danhimself (21904 posts) - - Show Bio

Hugh Jackman, star of the three X-Men movies and the upcoming X-Men Origins: Wolverine, made a surprise appearance on Thursday during Fox's presentation at Comic-Con International.

Following are highlights:

* Jackman said he just finished and there was "no way" he wouldn't bring Wolverine to the convention.

#46 Posted by Spider-Pantrelli (1731 posts) - - Show Bio
danhimself said:
"Hugh Jackman, star of the three X-Men movies and the upcoming X-Men Origins: Wolverine, made a surprise appearance on Thursday during Fox's presentation at Comic-Con International.

Following are highlights:

* Jackman said he just finished filming and there was "no way" he wouldn't bring Wolverine to the convention.

*Jackman went into the crowd and shook the hand of Wolverine creator Len Wein, thanking him for the character who "made my career."

* Jackman said even with playing the character for the fourth time, there's still a lot of explore.

* "All I'll say is the movie is big, it is action-packed and if there are two words to describe a Wolverine movie, it's bad-ass," Jackson said, adding "you're going to see a lot of berserker rage."

* Jackman then presented a clip from the film, showing Stryker and his recruitment of Wolverine and other mutants.

"
Dam... you beat me to it!!! I was going to post this!
#47 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
Thanks Grey Goose...Emma Frost is in the movie...how excited are you?!?!?!
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#48 Posted by Girth (1039 posts) - - Show Bio

Trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAHdbaAZyM

#49 Posted by Siphon (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

that's gonna be a good movie...hopefully

#50 Posted by Spider-Pantrelli (1731 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"
Thanks Grey Goose...Emma Frost is in the movie...how excited are you?!?!?!
"
Yay! Emma Frost! This movie is going to be great but will it be better than the Dark Knight?

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