I am not going to write why I don't like Wolverine, I want to know what makes people weak in the knees over this guy?

Wolverine used to be really cool in the 90's, idk how he could be that cool now lol

the only time i'm weak in the knees for this guy is when i see Hugh Jackman playing him... other then that... nothing special about him... 

" I am not going to write why I don't like Wolverine, I want to know what makes people weak in the knees over this guy? "

" @BuddyBulson said:

" I am not going to write why I don't like Wolverine, I want to know what makes people weak in the knees over this guy? "

It's pretty simple. Byronic hero, mysterious "Man with no-name" archetype, on a never ending quest for Redemption that he knows is doomed to fail. That's compiling stuff. He is essentially the persona that Batman is trying to sell to the criminal under belly... except in Wolverine's case it makes sense and you can buy that people might actually be afraid of him (there is also an internal logic to the character and his motivations that Batman frankly lacks). Wolverine is this embodiment of conflicting principles and ideologies, and is fundamentally at war with his very nature every second of the day. It's this same duality that allows for more drama, complex and varied stories featuring the character. It's man vs nature. It's nature vs nurture. It's evolution vs science. It's hero vs villain. It's samurai vs berserker. It's all of that in one character. An internal struggle in a classic underdog story where the real enemy is Wolverine himself. Batman is a hero. Spider-man is a hero. Superman is a hero. Captain America is a hero. Wolverine isn't a hero. He is a man who by all rights should be a villain, who's nature and instinct tells him to kill and take what he wants... but he wakes up every day and tries to be a good man.  Whether he succeeds or not is relevant, it is the struggle that matters. The reality is Wolverine is one of the most complex characters in main stream comics, and certainly the most complex hero. "

" @Shadowdoggy:  or maybe its like Twilight, people are fools and like what they are told to like. "

" Cauze he is a BADASS MOTHERFU%$ER THATS WHY "  

"or maybe its like Twilight, people are fools and like what they are told to like. "

" @BuddyBulson said:

"or maybe its like Twilight, people are fools and like what they are told to like. "

Or maybe it's because everyone has different opinions. I have seen you post your hatred of Wolverine on several occasions. I find it funny how obsessed you are with a character you dislike so much.  Thanks for creating one more hate thread. "

" @IrishX said:

" @BuddyBulson said:

"or maybe its like Twilight, people are fools and like what they are told to like. "

Or maybe it's because everyone has different opinions. I have seen you post your hatred of Wolverine on several occasions. I find it funny how obsessed you are with a character you dislike so much.  Thanks for creating one more hate thread. "

Sometimes people just need a good slap though (metaphorically). I used to b***h about Wolverine all the time til you called me out on it, now I respect the character much more :) "

I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is

" I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is "

" @thegentlemanrogue said:

" @BuddyBulson said:

" I am not going to write why I don't like Wolverine, I want to know what makes people weak in the knees over this guy? "

It's pretty simple. Byronic hero, mysterious "Man with no-name" archetype, on a never ending quest for Redemption that he knows is doomed to fail. That's compiling stuff. He is essentially the persona that Batman is trying to sell to the criminal under belly... except in Wolverine's case it makes sense and you can buy that people might actually be afraid of him (there is also an internal logic to the character and his motivations that Batman frankly lacks). Wolverine is this embodiment of conflicting principles and ideologies, and is fundamentally at war with his very nature every second of the day. It's this same duality that allows for more drama, complex and varied stories featuring the character. It's man vs nature. It's nature vs nurture. It's evolution vs science. It's hero vs villain. It's samurai vs berserker. It's all of that in one character. An internal struggle in a classic underdog story where the real enemy is Wolverine himself. Batman is a hero. Spider-man is a hero. Superman is a hero. Captain America is a hero. Wolverine isn't a hero. He is a man who by all rights should be a villain, who's nature and instinct tells him to kill and take what he wants... but he wakes up every day and tries to be a good man.  Whether he succeeds or not is relevant, it is the struggle that matters. The reality is Wolverine is one of the most complex characters in main stream comics, and certainly the most complex hero. "

He's not a Byronic hero. Lelouch Lamperouge is a byronic hero. Bruce Wayne is a byronic hero. Byronic heroes are suave, intelligent and borderline sociopathic save for their deep-seated good-heartedness. Wolverine isn't any of those. He's a good guy, but he just stabs people, he doesn't manipulate them.  I'm not bagging Logan, just thought I'd clear that up :) "

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" @thegentlemanrogue said:

" @BuddyBulson said:

" I am not going to write why I don't like Wolverine, I want to know what makes people weak in the knees over this guy? "

It's pretty simple. Byronic hero, mysterious "Man with no-name" archetype, on a never ending quest for Redemption that he knows is doomed to fail. That's compiling stuff. He is essentially the persona that Batman is trying to sell to the criminal under belly... except in Wolverine's case it makes sense and you can buy that people might actually be afraid of him (there is also an internal logic to the character and his motivations that Batman frankly lacks). Wolverine is this embodiment of conflicting principles and ideologies, and is fundamentally at war with his very nature every second of the day. It's this same duality that allows for more drama, complex and varied stories featuring the character. It's man vs nature. It's nature vs nurture. It's evolution vs science. It's hero vs villain. It's samurai vs berserker. It's all of that in one character. An internal struggle in a classic underdog story where the real enemy is Wolverine himself. Batman is a hero. Spider-man is a hero. Superman is a hero. Captain America is a hero. Wolverine isn't a hero. He is a man who by all rights should be a villain, who's nature and instinct tells him to kill and take what he wants... but he wakes up every day and tries to be a good man.  Whether he succeeds or not is relevant, it is the struggle that matters. The reality is Wolverine is one of the most complex characters in main stream comics, and certainly the most complex hero. "

He's not a Byronic hero. Lelouch Lamperouge is a byronic hero. Bruce Wayne is a byronic hero. Byronic heroes are suave, intelligent and borderline sociopathic save for their deep-seated good-heartedness. Wolverine isn't any of those. He's a good guy, but he just stabs people, he doesn't manipulate them.  I'm not bagging Logan, just thought I'd clear that up :) "

Only if you are judging solely on superficial surface qualities of what defines a Byronic Hero. There is more to being a Byronic Hero than being handsome, dapper and charismatic, and if you made a check list of qualities that define a Byronic Hero Wolverine would have more checks in his column than Batman would.
 
Conflicting emotions and bipolar tendencies? Check. Outcast or exile? Check. Troubled mysterious past? Check. Cynical and jaded? Check. Arrogant? He is the self proclaimed "best at what he does," so you tell me. Check. Self-destructive behavior? Check. Trouble with integrity? Big check. Loner? Check. Harbors guilt for past crimes? Check. Self aware and introspective? Check. Seductive and magnetic? Check.  Cunning? Check.
 
It is only some of the superficial qualities liked handsomeness that Wolverine might not possess, (depending on who is on art duties) but even then the Byronic Hero is supposed to possess an exotic attractiveness that Wolverine has more than Batman. He isn't always depicted as classically handsome but he always has the kavorka or animal magnetism. Really the only qualities of a Byronic Hero that Wolverine doesn't embody are sophistication and education, (and he has faked the former on several occasions being he is a super spy and all); and while he may not be a Batman level super genious he still intelligent, more so than the average man at the very least. "

" @Dark Noldor said:

" I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is "

I like him when he's on the X-Men, X-Force and in his own series, not when he's an Avenger. It makes no sense. Though the same can be said for Spider-Man. "

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" @Dark Noldor said:

" I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is "

I like him when he's on the X-Men, X-Force and in his own series, not when he's an Avenger. It makes no sense. Though the same can be said for Spider-Man. "

Actually it makes perfect sense for him and Spider-man to be on the Avengers. The Avengers is supposed to be the best of the best of MU on one team, like the JLA. People want the best heroes in on title interacting and playing off each other. Imagine if the core leaguers like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash were all always on separate team books... that would suck.   That said I don't know why they are still on the New Avengers, it should just be the core team. "

" @thegentlemanrogue said:

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" @Dark Noldor said:

" I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is "

I like him when he's on the X-Men, X-Force and in his own series, not when he's an Avenger. It makes no sense. Though the same can be said for Spider-Man. "

Actually it makes perfect sense for him and Spider-man to be on the Avengers. The Avengers is supposed to be the best of the best of MU on one team, like the JLA. People want the best heroes in on title interacting and playing off each other. Imagine if the core leaguers like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash were all always on separate team books... that would suck.   That said I don't know why they are still on the New Avengers, it should just be the core team. "

I like Wolverine, so I'm not having shots, but he shouldn't be on the Avengers team. Let's look at Marvel Earth. The majority of people HATE mutants. On top of that, they HATE killers. Wolverine (despite being a hero) is still the poster child (second to Magneto) for Mutant violence. Having him on the Avengers team is just dodgy. The same for Spider-Man, who most people seem to hate in the MU. However, Wolverine would be fantastic on the Secret Avengers, and Spidey should stay on the less-public New Avengers.   Do you see where I'm going with this? I appreciate your point, but it seems like Marvel wants to eat their cake and have it too. "

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" @thegentlemanrogue said:

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" @Dark Noldor said:

" I´ve always liked Wolverine because of: 1) his personality; 2) his powers; 3) his berseker rage; 4) his mysterious past and 5) he´s the best there is "

I like him when he's on the X-Men, X-Force and in his own series, not when he's an Avenger. It makes no sense. Though the same can be said for Spider-Man. "

Actually it makes perfect sense for him and Spider-man to be on the Avengers. The Avengers is supposed to be the best of the best of MU on one team, like the JLA. People want the best heroes in on title interacting and playing off each other. Imagine if the core leaguers like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash were all always on separate team books... that would suck.   That said I don't know why they are still on the New Avengers, it should just be the core team. "

I like Wolverine, so I'm not having shots, but he shouldn't be on the Avengers team. Let's look at Marvel Earth. The majority of people HATE mutants. On top of that, they HATE killers. Wolverine (despite being a hero) is still the poster child (second to Magneto) for Mutant violence. Having him on the Avengers team is just dodgy. The same for Spider-Man, who most people seem to hate in the MU. However, Wolverine would be fantastic on the Secret Avengers, and Spidey should stay on the less-public New Avengers.   Do you see where I'm going with this? I appreciate your point, but it seems like Marvel wants to eat their cake and have it too. "

You seem to be under the impression that what we as the readers see of Wolverine is what the public eye sees as well but I'm not sure that is the case. The super hero community knows Wolverine kills people... but does the general public? We know that they sell Wolverine posters and action figures to children, Molly Hayes was in love with him until she actually met him and found out what he was like. How much the public knows about Wolverine has never been clear, for instance, Nick Fury kept the events of EotS out of the press. Osborn seemed to a lot of trouble covering up Daken's exploits, which would also seem to imply that the public perception of Wolverine is different that what we know.  And Spider-man's popularity changes on a whim. Sometimes he is the favorite son of NY loved by all except a very vocal minority of JJJ supporters, and some times everyone hates him... its hard to keep track. "

I like him, have for a long time. Then again i like just about all of the X-Universe characters, and some of them
a bit more than Wolverine, so I'm part of the group that he has an in with because I'm a mutant book reader
I think, which explains a portion of your fans right there. As for hardcore fanboys and girls, hell, who really cares?
Theres one of those for every character, and I'd think it would be more of a boggle with a character that it makes 
less sense to be into, like a generally unpopular one, no?

" @Lion_Heart22:   NOW I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER MYSELF THANKS
 
 
@IrishX: if this was a hate thread i would have written what i dont like about him, i was asking his true fans to step up and give me a reason why some people blindly like the guy. I dont like a lot of characters but it seems i bitch about Logan b/c he is EVERYWHERE! if they could put him in DC im sure they would. But havnt said anything bad about him i just wanted to hear what others thought about him. I think the soul character is interesting but it has been lost over the years, Wolverine Origins is easily the best Logan story out there for me, and thats not saying too much.  "

I dont know, he has no (so much) moral thoughs, most of the time he just gets agry and want to kill some one, maybe is that the reason, he is pretty manly (stupid) maybe because people want to identificate with Wolverine a guy that cuts everything (LOL), I dont know and I don't care. Why does that bother you?

Wolverine is Marvel's answer to Batman, which is why he appears in almost as many monthly titles as the Cape Crusader himself.
 
Just be glade Marvel doesn't force Wolverine into everything like DC does with Batman. Wolverine was largely absent from three of Marvel's big events this passed decade, Secret Invasion, Civil War and Siege, while DC brought Batman back to life so he would entirely miss Blackest Night... he isn't even aloud to miss and event while he is dead! >:P

" @BuddyBulson said:

"or maybe its like Twilight, people are fools and like what they are told to like. "

Or maybe it's because everyone has different opinions. I have seen you post your hatred of Wolverine on several occasions. I find it funny how obsessed you are with a character you dislike so much.  Thanks for creating one more hate thread. "