What was so Bad about XMen Origins: Wolverine??

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#1 Posted by elayem98 (458 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

#2 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

for me i hate the bone claws sinse x-1 it showed his claws were man made implants. i hate that sabertooth looked nothing like x-1 version. i hate that the lab were logan got the metal put in him looked nothing like the one from x-2. i hate that the memory eraseing bullet thing cause it was stupid. plus when they put the metal in logan it looks nothing like the flashes in his dreams from 1 and 2.

#3 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (2861 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganRogue24 said:

for me i hate the bone claws sinse x-1 it showed his claws were man made implants. i hate that sabertooth looked nothing like x-1 version. i hate that the lab were logan got the metal put in him looked nothing like the one from x-2. i hate that the memory eraseing bullet thing cause it was stupid. plus when they put the metal in logan it looks nothing like the flashes in his dreams from 1 and 2.

this and also I just don't like the way Hugh Jackman portrays Wolverine. His best performance as Logan was in X-Men First Class and that is sad.

#4 Posted by ClawFist (313 posts) - - Show Bio

For me, it felt too inconsistent from its source material and for what was set-up in X-Men and X2. I'm a hardcore Wolverine reader so when seeing a Wolverine movie, yeah I'm gonna be critiquing everything. However, there can be inconsistencies in a movie like this and still be fun. X-Men First Class is nothing like the comics but I still found it very entertaining and fun to watch.

Maybe I just feel X-Men Origins Wolverine didn't respect the source material it drew its stories and characters from. Team X just wasn't right. Sabretoothe and Wolverine brothers? I thought that was just wrong. Agent Zero, Christopher Nord was just wrong. Blob shouldn't have been on the team. The Adamantium bullet doesn't make any sense as Adamantium isn't supposed to be able to pierce Adamantium.

Yeah if I were to say what stopped me from enjoying it, I'd say because I know the source material, I feel it doesn't respect it. However from an outsider looking in, I can completely see how someone new to Wolverine could enjoy it, that is until they read everything that actually happens to the character.

#5 Edited by Ms. Omega (4421 posts) - - Show Bio

Two words Amnesia Bullets........WTF? That made no freakin sense.....Wolverines skull is coated with adamantium as the bullet was as well, when he was shot in the head the bullet should not have penetrated his skull.

#6 Posted by jack16ichigo (453 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

I pretty much agree with you,yeah it had flaws but so does every superhero movie........it wasn't the best but I'd happily watch it again....

#7 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

It wasn't an exceptionally good film or even comparable to the likes of the first two X-Men films, but it wasn't unbearable to watch either.

It had it's flaws, especially introducing Sabertooth and Logan as brothers but I could overlook it. To me, I don't see the problem with Jackman's portrayal in the film. Yes, it was different but it was because he was playing Logan at a different stage in his life.

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#8 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14594 posts) - - Show Bio

One word: Barakapool, they had him nice at the begining, but then they had to mess it up didn't they.

#9 Posted by samuel_larson_10 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganRogue24 said:

for me i hate the bone claws sinse x-1 it showed his claws were man made implants. i hate that sabertooth looked nothing like x-1 version. i hate that the lab were logan got the metal put in him looked nothing like the one from x-2. i hate that the memory eraseing bullet thing cause it was stupid. plus when they put the metal in logan it looks nothing like the flashes in his dreams from 1 and 2.

you do realize that in the cannon he was born with bone claws right?

@DarkKnightDetective said:

One word: Barakapool, they had him nice at the begining, but then they had to mess it up didn't they.

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#10 Posted by ArtGamer (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

magic bullets!

the weird final boss deadpool

and in the origins video game wraith is the father of nightcrawler

#11 Posted by Oblivious (57 posts) - - Show Bio

Barakapool. I'm not a deadpool fan, but the character looked more like Baraka than it did Deadpool. Wasn't called X-Men Origins Wolverine not Mortal Kombat Origins Baraka? Other than that I did not like the story line of the movie.

#12 Posted by Retro_Metro (368 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the end final team up fight of Wolverine and Sabertooth Vs Weapon XI. I thought that was pretty well.

#13 Posted by Brazen_Intellect (1144 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be a lot easier to say what they did right, must shorter list

#14 Edited by k4tzm4n (38831 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say it's a terrible movie, but it was absolutely a disappointment. It's amusing at times, but the story gets too frustratingly stupid too frequently.

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#15 Posted by jhazzroucher (15501 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

#16 Posted by boschePG (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

you mean you got the unfinished version too...with the plane flying through CGI and Agent X witht he harness strings hanging from him as he threw his guns in the air?

#17 Posted by k4tzm4n (38831 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

Odd, I thought it was the bad writing, clustered story and idiotic moments. But hey, to each their own ;)

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#18 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

I wouldn't say it's a terrible movie, but it was absolutely a disappointment. It's amusing at times, but the story gets too frustratingly stupid too frequently.

#19 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4698 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the one Marvel film I won't buy, and I own Daredevil and Elektra.

#20 Edited by k4tzm4n (38831 posts) - - Show Bio

@sesquipedalophobe said:

It's the one Marvel film I won't buy, and I own Daredevil and Elektra.

I think Daredevil gets a bad rep. Sure, it's not going to be placing in any favorite CBM lists, but I thought it was alright for the most part. Please don't tell me you own Hulk though. I watched that the other day (first time since seeing it in theaters) and nearly died from boredom. I've never watched Elektra. Seen parts on TV and never, ever plan on finishing it.

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#21 Edited by sesquipedalophobe (4698 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: I bought Hulk for a dollar at the pawnshop. Worth it. And you're better for never seeing Elektra. My ex took me to see it because of Jennifer What's-Her-Face. Now you know why she's my ex.
#22 Posted by k4tzm4n (38831 posts) - - Show Bio

@sesquipedalophobe said:

@k4tzm4n: I bought Hulk for a dollar at the pawnshop. Worth it.

Alright, I suppose it's worth a dollar.

You win this round, Hulk...

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#23 Edited by jhazzroucher (15501 posts) - - Show Bio

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#24 Posted by jhazzroucher (15501 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

Odd, I thought it was the bad writing, clustered story and idiotic moments. But hey, to each their own ;)

@boschePG said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

you mean you got the unfinished version too...with the plane flying through CGI and Agent X witht he harness strings hanging from him as he threw his guns in the air?

yeah! i think the unfinished version spread around the world fast. I was able to watch it because my roommate watched it and it was so horrible to look at that i didn't care to watch the film on a theater.

the bad thing about the unfinished version is that when you see it, it's like losing your appetite to eat. It was like a nightmare that you couldn't erase on your memory. That's why whenever the film is shown on tv, i switch to another channel right away

If only the unfinished version wasn't leaked, the film could have sold better than the first Iron Man film.

I still remember the hype and excitement of people i meet, tv, newspapers, but it all ended when the horrible leak came. I could still remember a lot of people disliking/hating the film because of the unfinished version.

When i was finally able to watch the film on tv just last night, i could say the story was written well. I enjoyed it from the start to the last.Only because I could no longer remember what the unfinished version looked like. : )

I love the part when Wolverine killed a man and the man was his father, Sabretooth and Wolverine working together in the military, Stryker forming their team, Deadpool's awesomeness as well as Gambit, Wolvie's gf telling him she didn't use her powers to persuade him, and the worst part on the unfinished version was the best part, the final battle. there was a lot of action. I was thinking like can Wolvie and Sabretooth really beat the opponent who has great h2h skills, can teleport, can fire optic blasts, etc.. Cos if I were Wolvie and my bro as Sabretooth, I don't think we can beat him. they made a scary and very tough opponent. it was exciting cos everytime Wolvie and Sabretooth got hit, they might fall. I love the fact that they really had a hard time beating the opponent.

the film is great. it was the leak that destroyed the film.

#25 Posted by Saucedo17 (135 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the movie was good I never read a Marvel comic so it may have something do with the lake of knowledge of the character although I did thought the Wolverine anime was crap.

#26 Posted by Madame_Mist (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the opening montage was well edited, but the story was just a generic action hero one.

#27 Posted by Loki9876 (2995 posts) - - Show Bio

Like everything

#28 Posted by Chaos Burn (1781 posts) - - Show Bio

it mutilated the X films continuity, for one

#29 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1801 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it for the most part. Not the most intelligent movie ever made, not the most well acted, and certainly not adapted perfectly from the source material or even the the movies before it... but as a standalone action flick, I found it enjoyable.

However, I can never, EVER forgive Origins for what it did to Deadpool

#30 Posted by jhazzroucher (15501 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imagine_Man15 said:

I liked it for the most part. Not the most intelligent movie ever made, not the most well acted, and certainly not adapted perfectly from the source material or even the the movies before it... but as a standalone action flick, I found it enjoyable.

However, I can never, EVER forgive Origins for what it did to Deadpool

hahahaha. lol. : )

But yeah. I guess they could have made him look cooler. : )

#31 Posted by Gonzo33 (111 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's watchable but has some massive flaws. The thing I HATE about the movie though is (and this may seem silly but go with me) that nothing changes over time. Apart from the opening montage, the whole film looks like it's all taking place in 2009. Modern cars and technology, but isn't the storyline meant to be taken place in the 80/90's? Also TERRIBLE CGI and Deadpool.

#32 Posted by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

*yells to the sky* Everything! (not a helpful answer).

#33 Posted by laflux (14997 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@sesquipedalophobe said:

It's the one Marvel film I won't buy, and I own Daredevil and Elektra.

I think Daredevil gets a bad rep. Sure, it's not going to be placing in any favorite CBM lists, but I thought it was alright for the most part. Please don't tell me you own Hulk though. I watched that the other day (first time since seeing it in theaters) and nearly died from boredom. I've never watched Elektra. Seen parts on TV and never, ever plan on finishing it.

am i the only one who actually likes 2003 hulk and has the DVD.

#34 Edited by Postacrat (496 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie burns out for me soon after DP comes out of the elevator and deflects those bullets from like 10 shooters with machine guns with only his swords. After that part I usually just change the channel.

#35 Posted by soduh2 (865 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

Odd, I thought it was the bad writing, clustered story and idiotic moments. But hey, to each their own ;)

@boschePG said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@elayem98 said:

I saw it and liked it, yeah it had flaws, and deadpool in it was awful, but otherwise the movie was enjoyable for me.

I know basically everyone hates it with a passion though, so can you guys tell me what was bad?

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

you mean you got the unfinished version too...with the plane flying through CGI and Agent X witht he harness strings hanging from him as he threw his guns in the air?

If only the unfinished version wasn't leaked, the film could have sold better than the first Iron Man film.

It may have done better in the opening night, but lets not rush into hasty conclusions.

#36 Posted by LipstickZombie (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything!

#37 Edited by Teerack (5716 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

i love the film. it was the early ugly leak that destroyed the film

Probably the funniest post you'll ever make.

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#38 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Endless anachronisms.
 
The end of the movie takes place in 1979.  Yet Stryker has a Ruger Redhawk and plasma screen televisions.  Agent Zero has a Hummer, a minigun on his helicopter and a pair of 92FS Inox / PT92s.  Wraith has an HK G36.  And on, and on, and on.  They went to all the trouble to get period-correct costumes and equipment for the opening sequence, why not take it all the way to the end?

#39 Posted by kidrob (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98: There's absolutely nothing wrong with that amazing beautiful piece of cinematic expression.

#40 Posted by spidermonkey2099 (615 posts) - - Show Bio

I finally got around to watching it today, and I thought X-Men Origins: Wolverine was actually a pretty decent movie. As has been pointed out, it definitely has its flaws. I hated the amnesia bullet. That was just dumb. I don't think the cameos from Cyclops, Emma Frost, and Prof. X were needed, and on a similar subject, I think they should have hired someone with a better Cajun accent to play Gambit. Overall the second half felt kind of rushed and choppy.

I think this would have been a better film if they had focused on Wolverine, Sabretooth, and Wade Wilson/Deadpool. I would have also established Silver Fox (Wolverine's love interest in the film, though I don't think she's ever called that during the course of the movie) as Wolverine's love interest much earlier in the film. Also, I would have had Sabretooth really kill her and not just pretend to kill her (though I guess that does go with the implanted memories that Weapon X gave Wolverine in the comics).

All that being said, I really enjoyed watching it. I went into it with really low expectations due to all the negative things I had heard about it and was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't that bad. I would give it 3 and a half stars.

#41 Posted by montydapunk.k (65 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why the majority of us hated the movie, but I liked it maybe cuz I was unaware of Wolverine's origin.

#42 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Terrible CGI
  2. Gambit felt really forced in
  3. Adamantium bullet
  4. Amnesia bullet
  5. Barakapool
  6. Cyclops has heat vision
  7. Stupid plot twist involving Logan's love interest from the beginning of the movie.
  8. CGI Xavier
#43 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

@samuel_larson_10: you do realize in x-1 his xrays showed his claws were man made implants meaning no bone claws. heck even the wolverine film there doing now has the bone claws which should not be if they watched x-1 jeez.

#44 Posted by rod1949us (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@samuel_larson_10 said:

@LoganRogue24 said:

for me i hate the bone claws sinse x-1 it showed his claws were man made implants. i hate that sabertooth looked nothing like x-1 version. i hate that the lab were logan got the metal put in him looked nothing like the one from x-2. i hate that the memory eraseing bullet thing cause it was stupid. plus when they put the metal in logan it looks nothing like the flashes in his dreams from 1 and 2.

you do realize that in the cannon he was born with bone claws right?

@DarkKnightDetective said:

One word: Barakapool, they had him nice at the begining, but then they had to mess it up didn't they.

this

In fact, I was reading something about when Magneto ripped out Wolverine's adamantium claws that they found out he originally had bone claws.

#45 Edited by rod1949us (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_29 said:

  1. Terrible CGI
  2. Gambit felt really forced in
  3. Adamantium bullet
  4. Amnesia bullet
  5. Barakapool
  6. Cyclops has heat vision
  7. Stupid plot twist involving Logan's love interest from the beginning of the movie.
  8. CGI Xavier

Well, actually...Wolverine did have a love interest with Silver Fox in the comics...not sure if it played out exactly like they did in the movies.

#46 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2767 posts) - - Show Bio

@montydapunk.k: @x_29: @LoganRogue24: @rod1949us:

the worse part of the movie is that they said sabretooth was his brother....wth

#47 Posted by ben_malone22 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved the film. Many people say they don't like it because it is different or strays from its source (which makes it different) but I think that's what makes it more interesting. It's something you haven't seen yet. If it was to repeat the same things it would get boring, so changing deadpool and giving it new aspects really helped it make itself a new film rather then an overplayed sequel/prequel. Th only thing I didn't like about was that X-Men first class had professor x paralyzed at a younger age yet he can walk in wolverine origins at a later age.

#48 Posted by Grubich (368 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it a lot I'm not ashamed to admit it. And I really couldn't give less of a shit than I do about others' nit-picky whiny-ass negative reviews. I like hugh jackman as wolverine, the bone claws, sabertooth being his brother, living through all the wars, riding a motorcycle out of an exploding barn, walking away from an exploding helicopter, and the fight scenes. And the new wolverine is even better.

#49 Posted by Wolverine08 (40591 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything.

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#50 Posted by scalpernt (1 posts) - - Show Bio

To me, in addition to what's already been said, they screwed up 2 very important things in both Wolverine movies:1. They don't make him badass enough. He's always getting his butt kicked left and right in both movies, and the Wolverine I know from the comics is unbeatable. I mean Sabretooth just completely manhandles him. The reason he has such a following is because he's a total "badass" and nobody ever gets the drop on him.

2. His enhanced senses and reflexes are not clearly emphasized. One of the things that makes him so hard to beat aside from his healing, and adamantium are his animal senses and reflexes.

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