Off My Mind: Wolverine—Greatest Teacher or Completely Irresponsible?

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Posted by G-Man (30672 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine is the best there is at what he does but does that include teaching? Since Schism and his disagreement with Cyclops over the mutant children in their care, Wolverine has been trying something different. He may have been molded into becoming one of the greatest killers and warriors in the world but that isn't what he wants for the next generation. He firmly believes they should be taught survival skills as well as how to best use their powers but he doesn't feel they should be trained to be soldiers.

Wolverine has been known to be one of the greatest mentors around. In the past, he took Kitty Pryde, Jubilee, Armor and even X-23 under his wing. For as much of a killer he can be, he has a soft-side to him and knows how to take care of and bring up young kids.

Since the Jean Grey School for Higher Learning opened, they've had a rocky beginning. They are moving in some radical directions in giving the students the best possible education, both in terms of their powers and a regular education. The methods that Wolverine has implemented and allowed to be used could be called into question.

With all the fun, excitement and dangers with the school, is Wolverine the best teacher there is or is he being completely reckless with the children attending the school?

== TEASER ==

If anything, you can't say the school is boring. The students have so much power at their fingertips and many have already faced huge threats. Trying to get them to stay seated in a classroom setting could be a difficult task. The majority of the students actually want to be at the school. They can see that this school could be a fun and exciting place. Wolverine isn't necessarily a by-the-books kind of guy. That could work for and against them. There are several things that make Wolverine a questionable teacher.

Wolverine is Still a Killer

Wolverine believes that there are times extreme measures have to be taken. As part of X-Force, they seek out the deadly threats against the X-Men, Mutants, the school and innocents in general. He does it so others remain safe and don't have to be faced with the dilemma of having to make hard choices.

There are two problems with this. One, a cold-hearted killer shouldn't be placed in charge of impressionable children. If they start to look up to Wolverine or think he's cool, they might believe that their powers could be use to follow in his footsteps.

The second problem here is killer bad guys could lead to associates of the deceased looking for revenge. If they come looking for Wolverine, they may choose to pay a visit to the school.

This leads to another point:

Everyone Knows About the School

On the very first day the school opened, they were attacked. This could be the biggest sign of Wolverine's irresponsibility. If he's so concerned over the safety of these young mutants, publicly opening up a school is the worst thing he could do. Part of the reason Schism occurred was over Utopia, their home and base, being targeted by a Sentinel. Opening up a new school on the destroyed remains of Xavier's school (which was also attacked many many times) is a giant invitation to enemies of the X-Men and mutant haters in the world.

Is the School Safe for Students?

Wolverine's goal is to teach the students and prepare them for the future and any incoming danger. Besides being a target for enemies, the actual school itself presents some threats. Beast has been busy trying to rewire the school and implement advanced technology. It might have been a good idea to make sure everything was running properly and wouldn't malfunction on the students.

One of the surprises was installing a Danger Room in the bathroom (and pretty much everywhere in the school). The idea of the Danger Room was to have a place to simulate different environments and dangers as part of training sessions. Now when unsuspecting mutants try taking care of personal business, they may find themselves in the middle of a Danger Room exam.

Another example of possible danger is the way some of the lessons are presented. In examining the "majestic wonders of the mutant body," students were shrunk down and journeyed inside an actual mutant body. With a lack of firm discipline over the students, keeping an eye on them while they are microscopic size and are let loose in a body could lead to bad things. Later, one of the students decides to handle a threat inside Kitty Pryde himself and is able to shrink himself down to attack the threat. This is a risk to his life plus as he's simply attacking left and right inside the Kitty's body, she is also placed in danger. The fact that he was able to so easily access the technology to shrink himself and enter another person's body before anyone could stop him raises some questions about the staff of Wolverine's school.

Wolverine is Not Always Present at the School

Wolverine is on several different teams. He's part of the X-Men, X-Force and Avengers. Where does he find the time to go on missions with each of those teams while still worry about the school's budget and curriculum?

When it came to the budget and the funding of the school, he had an idea and left with Quentin Quire. The thing is, he didn't just leave the school or the city or the state. He left the entire planet. He didn't bother to tell anyone that he was leaving or where they were going. When the school was attacked, no one had a clue where he was.

Abusing Mutant Powers for Personal Gain

As Wolverine leaves the planet on a one-on-one field trip with Quentin Quire, we might have a better understanding why he didn't tell anyone where they were going. His plan to raise more money to handle the incredible costs of running the school (and paying for the constant repairs) is to go gambling.

Wolverine takes Quentin to a dangerous planet full of high stakes gambling with the intentions of having Quentin use his telepathy to help him cheat to win.

Not only his he exposing a student to locations and situations that are inappropriate, there's also the matter of child endangerment. Quentin may be an extremely super powerful mutant but this is his first time off planet. His overconfidence and lack of experience could easily put him into extremely harmful situations. And gambling is bad, kids.

What Does This Say About Wolverine as a Teacher?

With Wolverine in charge, there won't be a dull moment. He might try to be a stickler when it comes to the rules but this is Wolverine we're talking about. He's broken more rules than he's kept. He has decades of experience to pass onto the students. When someone or something threatens the students, if he's actually at the school, he will do whatever it takes to protect them and won't be easily stopped.

Wolverine's methods might be questionable but the students will learn things they could never learn in a more structured environment. They just need to be able to survive long enough to appreciate them.

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#1 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm going to go with greatest teacher ever, g-man.

#2 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion: I second that. If I had him as a teacher I might have done a whole lot better.

#3 Posted by Steps (657 posts) - - Show Bio

He's not really a teacher, he's more the resource management guy and he does it well. As a teacher Wolverine isn't that good but he can find resource whenever he needs it.

#4 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

... This thread makes me wonder...

What happened to Charles Xavier?

#5 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow. Logan teaching English Lit of all things? I'm pleasantly surprised.

I admire Wolverine wanting the students to be alert to trouble, but Danger/bath room? That's a little too much.

This comic sounds like it's trying to hard to be funny.

#6 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm....depends..

what class does wolverine teach? aha

#7 Posted by d0npierre (399 posts) - - Show Bio

He will bring discipline, being a ninja and all...

#8 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

Idunno, but I refuse to read this as long as the art is this terrible.

#9 Posted by saoakden (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the Wolverine & The X-Men book. I think Wolverine doesn't want the children to become killers. Its one thing for him to kill someone cause he's been doing it for years. His first kill was when he was child. SO he personally gets it when their first kill as a child changes their life. He doesn't want the kids to go through that experience. Its one thing for them to accidently kill someone but its another if they intentionally do it. An accident is like they confront someone and they fall to their doom or they accidently get impaled by a pipe. On purpose is like what Wolverine and the X-Force do.

#10 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@Miss_Garrick: i kinda guessed the english lit thing. at the beginning of volume 3 of his series he spent a lot of time just reading books until sh!t got real. i also think he would be a gread foreing language teach him knowing most of them, especially japanese.

#11 Posted by thveej (203 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

... This thread makes me wonder...

What happened to Charles Xavier?

Prof X has just gotten shafted..... It's seems kind of insane to me that Marvel would disregard one of the most main stream X-Men characters like that. Don't get me wrong, I'v enjoyed most of the X books, but with the popularity of X-men movies (specially first class) and the public perception of the xmen and prof X (never-mind the fact that the whole series is called "X-Men" for a reason) it just seems odd to me from a business perspective to keep prof X in the background.

Again while i have not enjoy all of the X books recently, I really appreciate the fact that story has evolved so much the last couple of years. And even though Cyclops is a jerk now, its super cool seeing him & Logan be the main leaders in the mutant community.

#12 Posted by DATNIGGA (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh... doesnt matter if they were with cyclops they would be trained to kill anyways lol & on top of that there mutants , X men & marvel loves events so... there is ALOT of bloodshed & chaos in there future. a dangerous school sort of prepares them for that

#13 Posted by notlupus (6 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing that many people missed with the whoel Schism thing is, Logan is aware that these children are going to be put in danger. He just feels that they should have a chance at a normal life if they wish to leave the X-men when they become adults. Cyclops was doing nothing to train or prepare them, when was the last time that there was an actual class taught on Utopia post Dark Reign? Cyclops didn't give any of the students a chance.

Wolverine is killing people that are or could be threats to the school. If he thinks that say Foolkiller could one day pose a threat to the students or attack the grounds he's going to gut him first chance he gets.

Everybody knew where Xavier's School was, everybody knew where the "school" on the mainland San Fran was. Now Cyclops has raised an island off the coast that could just as easily be attacked is.

The school grounds actually now pose a threat for any invaders to the actual school , Karoka and the entire buildings a danger room played pivotal plot points in this weeks issue. Imagine if the entire Enterprise was a holodeck, First Contact would have lasted all of 20 minutes, granted 20 minutes of the crew running around with holo tommy guns massacring borg.

Wolverine doesn't sleep lol

I think Wolverine is trying to show Quire that he can still have fun while doing good with his powers.

I really wish that we have an Avengers Academy / Jean Grey school crossover in the future, they both are trying to accomplish the same things.

#14 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion: Wolverine teaching Japanese culture would make a load of sense. He could also teach Canadian culture as well.

#15 Posted by SpidermanWins (3980 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine as a teacher is fine. But Wolverine as a headmaster? That I'm still finding a little... unrealistic, for Logans methods.

#16 Posted by DarkChris (303 posts) - - Show Bio

The first arc was really bad. Really bad. The second was mediocre. I mean, everything is so....fake. The humor is fake. It's not ASM. Spider-man is a character associated with funny lines. Logan is not!!! And Bachalo's art was awful! Thank God Bradshaw came aboard for these issues!

And, most of the points you mentioned, are because of lazy writing. The proper Headmaster would be Storm. Not Logan.

#17 Posted by McKnight87 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair, he didn't actually use Quire's power for personal gain. It was to help the school and therefore, the children. In that sense, it was for very selfless reasons. As far as being a teacher, with the exception of higher math and physics, he could probably teach just about anything, given the length of time he's been around. He's probably met and had drinks with quite a few ridiculously famous people. Of course, that was in those times when he wasn't a spy/mutant weapon/savage or fighting Sabretooth for the millionth time that year. For all of his short-comings (pun intended and then some) he's actually one of the best people to have as both a teacher and headmaster. He's most certainly a disciplinarian, though his attitude can sometimes be called into question, though never his motives.

#18 Posted by MooseyMcMan (136 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait a minute, he teaches English Literature? That just seems out of character to me.

#19 Posted by airbound_dude (65 posts) - - Show Bio

@notlupus said:

the thing that many people missed with the whoel Schism thing is, Logan is aware that these children are going to be put in danger. He just feels that they should have a chance at a normal life if they wish to leave the X-men when they become adults. Cyclops was doing nothing to train or prepare them, when was the last time that there was an actual class taught on Utopia post Dark Reign? Cyclops didn't give any of the students a chance.

Wolverine is killing people that are or could be threats to the school. If he thinks that say Foolkiller could one day pose a threat to the students or attack the grounds he's going to gut him first chance he gets.

Everybody knew where Xavier's School was, everybody knew where the "school" on the mainland San Fran was. Now Cyclops has raised an island off the coast that could just as easily be attacked is.

The school grounds actually now pose a threat for any invaders to the actual school , Karoka and the entire buildings a danger room played pivotal plot points in this weeks issue. Imagine if the entire Enterprise was a holodeck, First Contact would have lasted all of 20 minutes, granted 20 minutes of the crew running around with holo tommy guns massacring borg.

Wolverine doesn't sleep lol

I think Wolverine is trying to show Quire that he can still have fun while doing good with his powers.

I really wish that we have an Avengers Academy / Jean Grey school crossover in the future, they both are trying to accomplish the same things.

you're right and since Cyclops has formed the Brotherhood of X-Men ( Uncanny X-men), their motto is more isolation than helping other mutants. Wolverine is giving them a chance to choose: Fight or have a normal life (as normal as it gets for mutants). Plus Wolverine's school is more prepared for an attack. As for him being absent, he is doing whatever it takes to keep the school running. We are seeing what it takes from an administrative point of view, with the money resources, to the staff.We always sawed the school ( Xavier's ) from the student POV. Now we are seeing it from the staff POV. Not easy to run a school. I feel frustrated that Marvel has chosen to almost disregard Xavier since he is the reason why they're called the X-men in the first place. If Cyclops hates Xavier that much why not change the name of his team. Wolverine is doing what Xavier did and as a viewer I have more appreciation for Xavier's work to help both mutant and humans alike. Logan is following that legacy.

#20 Posted by KRYPTON (1891 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey Tony, you looking to replace Wolverine as headmaster?

#21 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkChris: your opinnion. dumb opinnion, but yours. iceman got a lot of respect in it and still does to this day after how many years with uncanny x-men?? hes one of the original and he got less atention than the young x-men.

haters gonna hate just because they hate wolverine.

#22 Posted by Top Flight Security (142 posts) - - Show Bio

@MooseyMcMan said:

Wait a minute, he teaches English Literature? That just seems out of character to me.

Not really. If you read older X-Books, you'll see that he reads a lot. Usually he gets attacked while trying to read. And while drinking a beer. And while smoking a cigar. He just gets attacked a lot.

#23 Posted by DarkChris (303 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

@DarkChris: your opinnion. dumb opinnion, but yours. iceman got a lot of respect in it and still does to this day after how many years with uncanny x-men?? hes one of the original and he got less atention than the young x-men.

haters gonna hate just because they hate wolverine.

Dude, I don't hate Logan. I hate the way some writers use him. And its even worse when that writer has made serious work with that character in other titles.

And I like Iceman and the respect he gets, cause he deserves it, but it's not the only reason to love a series. ;)

#24 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkChris: man i hate people like you. you think you know exactly the way he is. for decades he didnt know himself. and just when he finally finds out and begins to grow you guys all: thats not wolverine. i know wolverine. they are just using him to make a buck. stop living in the past.

#25 Edited by DarkChris (303 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

@DarkChris: man i hate people like you. you think you know exactly the way he is. for decades he didnt know himself. and just when he finally finds out and begins to grow you guys all: thats not wolverine. i know wolverine. they are just using him to make a buck. stop living in the past.

Dude, relax. It's just my opinion. And my opinion is that Logan isn't the man that would open back the school. Storm or even Emma. I mean, like G-Man wrote, one of his problems was that Utopia was like a huge target. So, he goes away by some of the most powerful mutants in the world and builds a school. A public school. What it says to me? Lazy writing. I prefer Aaron when he writes darker and more serious titles. Well, even Astonishing SP & Wolverine was really good.

Oh.... now that Logan has "discovered himself", he leads a black-ops team that KILLS. Or killed so many guys. Logan is a complicated character, I just don't like his depiction in WathXM. Get over it. :)

#26 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1503 posts) - - Show Bio

@notlupus: Actually, that AA/JGI crossover might happen in issue 38 of AA.

I'll be honest, I never liked Wolverine. And I'm extremely annoyed how Marvel keeps telling me "Oh you SHOULD like him, because he's right and you should read him in one of his many ongoings!" >:(

#27 Posted by tchalla3000 (54 posts) - - Show Bio

@airbound_dude said:

@notlupus said:

the thing that many people missed with the whoel Schism thing is, Logan is aware that these children are going to be put in danger. He just feels that they should have a chance at a normal life if they wish to leave the X-men when they become adults. Cyclops was doing nothing to train or prepare them, when was the last time that there was an actual class taught on Utopia post Dark Reign? Cyclops didn't give any of the students a chance.

Wolverine is killing people that are or could be threats to the school. If he thinks that say Foolkiller could one day pose a threat to the students or attack the grounds he's going to gut him first chance he gets.

Everybody knew where Xavier's School was, everybody knew where the "school" on the mainland San Fran was. Now Cyclops has raised an island off the coast that could just as easily be attacked is.

The school grounds actually now pose a threat for any invaders to the actual school , Karoka and the entire buildings a danger room played pivotal plot points in this weeks issue. Imagine if the entire Enterprise was a holodeck, First Contact would have lasted all of 20 minutes, granted 20 minutes of the crew running around with holo tommy guns massacring borg.

Wolverine doesn't sleep lol

I think Wolverine is trying to show Quire that he can still have fun while doing good with his powers.

I really wish that we have an Avengers Academy / Jean Grey school crossover in the future, they both are trying to accomplish the same things.

you're right and since Cyclops has formed the Brotherhood of X-Men ( Uncanny X-men), their motto is more isolation than helping other mutants. Wolverine is giving them a chance to choose: Fight or have a normal life (as normal as it gets for mutants). Plus Wolverine's school is more prepared for an attack. As for him being absent, he is doing whatever it takes to keep the school running. We are seeing what it takes from an administrative point of view, with the money resources, to the staff.We always sawed the school ( Xavier's ) from the student POV. Now we are seeing it from the staff POV. Not easy to run a school. I feel frustrated that Marvel has chosen to almost disregard Xavier since he is the reason why they're called the X-men in the first place. If Cyclops hates Xavier that much why not change the name of his team. Wolverine is doing what Xavier did and as a viewer I have more appreciation for Xavier's work to help both mutant and humans alike. Logan is following that legacy.

I think both Wolverine and Cyclops are fighting for Xavier's dream in there own way. Wolverine is trying to teach the next generation in a more safe environment, and Cyclops is trying to make his team appear to be more heroic, thus making humanity trust mutants more. If Cyclops wasn't concerned about helping mutants, he wouldn't have restarted X-Force to begin with. Even Wolverine knows Cyclops is trying to help, he just doesn't like the way he's going about doing it. Plus, the last time I checked, the Brotherhood were attacking humans. Cyclops just saved them from Sinister.

Wolverine is a great teacher, always has been, but I don't know about him becoming a headmaster. From what I've read, he's trying, but that is the reason why he asked Beast and Iceman to help. They've done it before. It's gonna be interesting.

#28 Posted by TDK_1997 (14471 posts) - - Show Bio

His just an amazing teacher that lets his students do everything.

#29 Posted by fireball11 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

For Logan always the x-men was more than just a team that he belongs. For him the X-men was and is his family. And somehow he saw the x-kids as his own. From the moment that he spent most of his long life as a warrior and a soldier and he passed through many tragedies (with most prominent the last one when he was deceived and killed without knowing his children), he realized that was necessary to built an alternative for the young mutants, and giving them a chance for being something else besides just soldiers for the mutant's cause. So he decided to built the school. Now even if he is ufficialy the headmaster, the school's real headmasters are Hank, Kitty and Bobby. Logan's role is more like the person in charge that he tries to find funds for keeping the school open (and this is the real reason that he took Quentin with him in the space casino, it was a desperate move for finding money for the school), he is the authority figure (and not the role model as many tend to confuse) and the person that is responsable for the protection and the safety of the students (and here there is the necessity of the x-force for keeping threats as the purifiers away from the school and it is a secret squad, only Logan's closest collaborators know its existance and certainly none of the students). The danger room of JGS is working more as a security system than a training room as we saw in the last issue when the school was attacked by the brood

#30 Posted by Mutant God (3020 posts) - - Show Bio

Grade A Irresponsible

#31 Posted by WeaponX619 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that Wolverine didn't come into the situation trying to be the best teacher. He came in trying to let the younger mutants a chance of doing things in life rather than just be trained as soldiers. He brought in a lot of the veteran X-Men members such as Beast, Iceman, Kitty, Rogue, and others for a reason. He knew he always wasn't going to be around and that he would handle more of the background problems and departments. Should he be there more than what he has been so far with him traveling to Japan and being with the Avengers too, of course, I think he should be around more. I just don't think that everyone should have this notion that he thought he was going to be the best teacher or headmaster. With him still being a killer still I feel like at least he's being true to himself and doing it for the good of the students. Will his school get attacked, yes, that's like asking does he have three claws. Utopia is going to get attacked, they're both huge targets and always will be. But he had defenses built for those reasons, almost the whole school is a danger room, they have telepaths, and Krakoa. So, I don't think he's the greatest teacher but he'll be a great mentor to the students and I don't think he's completely irresponsible either, he lies somewhere in the middle.

#32 Posted by The Impersonator (5075 posts) - - Show Bio
He didn't bother to tell anyone that he was leaving or where they were going. When the school was attacked, no one had a clue where he was.

He's at the bar, drinking beer. xP

#33 Posted by GothamRed (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

I say he's a good teacher, he does whatever it takes to keep the school running, he separates his work life from his personal life with the X-Force, and the reason he can be absent so often is because he's surrounded himself and his school with people that he knows he can trust to educate and protect the students if need be. I didn't think it'd work well before but this series has proved me wrong.

#34 Posted by LordRequiem (1309 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd teach them to be warriors, and to survive, as well as educating them. A veritable smorgasbord of curricular activities.

#35 Posted by umbrafeline (5300 posts) - - Show Bio

why is the toilet seat on fire?! lol classic

#36 Posted by Mjdemon (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops seems like a better teacher than Wolverine.

#37 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

Another user on this site described it greatly:

He's being a sinner so the others don't have to.

#38 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

...

Installing a danger room in the f**king bathroom?

Are you serious?

How is that NOT irresponsible?

#39 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

@thveej: Damn, I really liked Xavier's concept... So, where is he now, if he is not with the X-men, last time I saw him, he was with the Illuminati.

#40 Posted by fireball11 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops is a general not a teacher or mentor. This is the reason that during Morrison's run Xavier prefered to put Jean as the school's headmistress and not him. As for the danger room actually in this case is the school's defense system for this reason is everywhere. There is not a real "danger room" in the school.

#41 Posted by ApatheticAvenger (1636 posts) - - Show Bio

@fireball11 said:

Cyclops is a general not a teacher or mentor. This is the reason that during Morrison's run Xavier prefered to put Jean as the school's headmistress and not him. As for the danger room actually in this case is the school's defense system for this reason is everywhere. There is not a real "danger room" in the school.

The reason Xavier put Jean in charge was actually because Cyclops had only recently returned to the X-Men after being possessed by Apocalypse, he wasn't the same man and wasn't really in a position to lead the school.

#42 Posted by KidSupreme (824 posts) - - Show Bio

Phhh...

#43 Posted by mettlekm (417 posts) - - Show Bio

where is harry potter?

#44 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

The way I see it, if anything, Logan is just carrying on the tradition for teaching the students mutant survival as would be necessary for living in the world they come to inherit. Yes there may be a problem with Wolverine still being a killer, but its not as if he's encouraging them to be all out killers, is he? Sure, the school is known, but presence of a location shouldn't be a deterrent for its continued operation, especially since it can be in danger from anything and not just Sentinels. Safety can be a problem in any school, but considering that this institute doesn't have normal kids as part of the student body, that just means that there's all the more attempt of the staff to educate these students on dangers and see to their welfare. Hell, a school can be dangerous whether it is a mutant school, an inner-city school, or even a school way out in the sticks. As for him not being around, well, it takes more than just a headmaster to run a school, and Logan no doubt has capable teachers and instructors and staff to help him out. As far as thinking of unconventional ways to raise money for the institute, well, I can't exactly say that what Wolverine did was right or appropriate and he should have realized it. Yes, he put Quentin in danger and exposed him to gambling, which is definitely not good. In the end, I think Wolvie cares about the kids and wants to see them well taken care of, and that's why I will still give him the benefit of the doubt.

#45 Posted by fireball11 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

When was the last time that we saw Scott teaching or mentoring someone? Even now that he is with Emma, she actually is responsable for the education of the kids in Utopia. He is great leader there is no doubt, but this is different from being a mentor

#46 Posted by greeneagle (157 posts) - - Show Bio

@thveej said:

@Deadcool said:

... This thread makes me wonder...

What happened to Charles Xavier?

Prof X has just gotten shafted..... It's seems kind of insane to me that Marvel would disregard one of the most main stream X-Men characters like that. Don't get me wrong, I'v enjoyed most of the X books, but with the popularity of X-men movies (specially first class) and the public perception of the xmen and prof X (never-mind the fact that the whole series is called "X-Men" for a reason) it just seems odd to me from a business perspective to keep prof X in the background.

Again while i have not enjoy all of the X books recently, I really appreciate the fact that story has evolved so much the last couple of years. And even though Cyclops is a jerk now, its super cool seeing him & Logan be the main leaders in the mutant community.

Wolverine ask Xavier to join the school as a faculty member but he declined and gave him his blessing. Besides if he did join, it would undermine Wolverine's authority in the eyes of the students and other members of faculty

#47 Edited by CATPANEXE (9368 posts) - - Show Bio

Where to begin..no, well where to end? I'll just say I don't swamp myself with the details because I know as well as anyone it is what it is. What it is is Wolverine sells, and X-Men sell, so add the two together and you have something that definitely sells. You can also throw a few characters in there who have lost steam in popularity or never had any and let them ride on those coat tails and get some promotion themselves. No different than having Wolverine on the cover of a comic to boost it's failing sales, and, it works. See: Wolverine And The X-Men cartoon. Did Wolverine really have any business leading the entire team/school, or there was no one board that was more qualified? Would he actually even have elected himself to that position? Wolverine get's passes on things too numerous to say them all as a character, from his appearances out of nowhere in other books, to being literally in two places at the same time, to being a flat out murderer and applicator of personal revenge worse than most killers in the Marvel Universe (seeing how Steve treated Punisher for this it seems illogical he would hold Wolverine so closely?), ect. Because, well he's Wolverine and he's very popular. Monstrously so. I think this is actually were the most dissonance with his character stems from. People notice little details, clearly, us comic fans notice every little detail, even the stuff that isn't there but possibly could be, and when it comes to Wolverines presence in a story things rarely add up. Even his own story rarely does due to having so many appearances and so many under different writers. Does Wolverine make a good teacher for a school? The question more would be to evaluate what is known, and well of his character and ask " would " he, if the situation had not been presented? I could really endlessly list why he wouldn't and say absolutely not. But, comic that sells sells, so here we are and a small crew of people tasked to justify every little reason why it works as best they can, and that's a job none of us would really be able to complete perfectly at the end of any given day. Really though, English lit? His English isn't even proper on that very page, much less ever is. I would think Hank, Kitty, or, I don't know, anyone would have been better for that task? Marvel is silly, but whatever holds the bottom line I suppose.

#48 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't read the comic but Wolverine + having a school = .... no, wait that doesn't even go together, is logical a former killer and students just don't match, maybe match in comics (badly but do) but that definitely don't happen in my mind

@InnerVenom123 said:

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Installing a danger room in the f**king bathroom?

Are you serious?

How is that NOT irresponsible?

That will be extremely HORRIBLE, is so bad that you can't even do your business in peace.

oh and for the scene... what will happen to a girl, if the toiler seat is on fire?.... boys don't have that trouble but us... well I don't want have my butt on fire, that'll be BAD, REALLY BAD.

#49 Posted by frozenedge (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he's doing the best that he can considering who he is and what he's got to work with. I do think he should at least quit being an Avenger while he's running the school so he isn't swamped with being in so many places at once.

#50 Posted by lykopis (10756 posts) - - Show Bio

I am enjoying this book - while humorous, there are no short-cuts in dealing with Wolverine's inexperience running a school and dangers/issues in doing so.

As for his aptitude in teaching English Lit. - I fail to see why he couldn't? Like others have mentioned before - he usually read on his free time and is extremely intelligent, despite his brawn. Granted, Hank is more qualified, but he's got his own classes to run, as does the rest of staff.

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