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    #1  Edited By danhimself

    So lately I've been catching up on the Wildstorm Universe.  I've always read Gen13 and decided it was time to get into the rest of the Wildstorm books.  I've come to realize that the Wildstorm Universe can be a very confusing place.  The Universe recently saw a soft reboot of the entire Universe and all of the books were restarted.  Shortly after that World's End hit and has left Earth in a post apocalyptic state.  So no matter where you start unless you've been reading the Wildstorm books for a very long time most chances are that you're going to be confused.  I know I am.  So I went to the most knowledgeable person of Wildstorm on the Vine that I know of and that was Buckshot.  In my questions I mentioned that we should have Wildstorm Universe Discussion thread to make it a little easier on everyone else.  So here's the thread and my questions.
     
     1.  They're aware of the soft reboot that Void did on the universe? Gen13 doesn't seem to be aware but Lynch knows and it seems like some of the other WildCATS do to.
     
    2.  How do they remember Max Faraday?  All that stuff happened before the reboot. 

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    Ive been away since when it was with Image, with the exception of Midnighter.
    Just got back in as well, and im also pretty lost. 
    anyway a mod could pin this on the top of the Wildstorm forum? 
    thanks if so.

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    #3  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

    1. Gen 13 knows about it, at least to some degree. When they fought the Authoriteens the Intern (teen Doctor) explained to them about the reboot and how they're alive now and the whole thing with their souls. The reason they'd have to be told about it (instead of just remembering) is because they'd been dead before for a while before it happened.) It's not entirely clear who knows what, but I think there's knowledge about it. For example, Midnighter remembers killing Grifter before the reboot.
     
    2. If they remember stuff before the reboot, they'd remember Faraday.

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    #4  Edited By Explosive

    I wonder if Cybernary's precog is as good as MN's

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    #5  Edited By danhimself
    @Buckshot:  I think the thing that confuses me is that they did this big reboot on the titles and there are characters who know about it....just can't wrap my head around that
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    #6  Edited By grifter78
    @danhimself:
    I think since the new Void did it, it had a certain "imperfect aspect" to the whole thing since she was still new to the Void entity.  And I take all these little things to be evidence of that.
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    #7  Edited By shanana

    I DEMAND THAT MORE PEOPLE READ WILDSTORM! lol

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    #8  Edited By grifter78
    @Sha:
    I second that motion!  :D
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    #10  Edited By Nerx

    What happens after World's end

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    #11  Edited By geraldthesloth

    only 10 posts? damn..

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    #12  Edited By Nerx
    @geraldthesloth: Just say something about midnighter beating a popular DC or Marvel street leveler and bait them to this thread
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    #13  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Nerx said:
    " @geraldthesloth: Just say something about midnighter beating a popular DC or Marvel street leveler and bait them to this thread "
    LOL, But I don't wannnnnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaa
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    #14  Edited By Nerx
    @geraldthesloth: I still remember when they used him frequently in battle threads and how favorite characters get mowed down like Grass, and Buckshot who is like a force of nature
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    #15  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Nerx said:
    " @geraldthesloth: I still remember when they used him frequently in battle threads and how favorite characters get mowed down like Grass, and Buckshot who is like a force of nature "
    If only buckshot would frequent the boards again.
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    #16  Edited By Nerx
    @geraldthesloth: Yeah, haven't seen much of you in animevice either
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    #17  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Nerx said:
    " @geraldthesloth: Yeah, haven't seen much of you in animevice either "
    Well besides the fact that I can't stand to debate with people who try to lowball comics.
    Just one particular user tbh
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    #18  Edited By Nerx
    @geraldthesloth: Ah I see
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    #19  Edited By grifter78
    @Nerx:
    As far as we know, World's End is what's going on for the rest of the year.  We don't know much more beyond that.  Might hear more at SDCC in the summer.
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    #20  Edited By danhimself

    I like that they've changed the teams up...like Freefall and Rainmaker being in the Authority now

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    #21  Edited By grifter78
    @danhimself: 
    yeah, several people have complained about all the characters switching teams but I think it's cool.
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    #22  Edited By Morning_Dew
    @danhimself said:
    " I like that they've changed the teams up...like Freefall and Rainmaker being in the Authority now "
    That's one thing i hate, i also hate how JEt is still running with the WILDCATS
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    #23  Edited By danhimself
    @Solace said:
    " @danhimself said:
    " I like that they've changed the teams up...like Freefall and Rainmaker being in the Authority now "
    That's one thing i hate, i also hate how JEt is still running with the WILDCATS "
    Why?
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    #24  Edited By danhimself

    I must have missed something....Roxy and Rainmaker are with The Authority but where did Grunge go?

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    #25  Edited By Nerx
    @grifter78: Whats SDCC man?
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    #26  Edited By grifter78
    @danhimself:
    Grunge is with the Wildcats.
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    #27  Edited By grifter78
    @Nerx:
    SDCC=San Diego Comic Con
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    #29  Edited By danhimself
    @aztek the lost said:
    " I can't believe I let you use me like this! "
    well you finally satisfied my needs....so hopefully that helps you out
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    #31  Edited By danhimself
    @aztek the lost: we're almost even for me saving your life now to
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    #32  Edited By Masamune69500

    Hey, I am new to wildstorm. I like the new DV8 and I saw some good review of Wildcats here so I was wondering if it was a cool reading and newbie friendly. 
    I was worried that I had to read both Wildcasts and authority to follow what's going on? Looking for your advices
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    #33  Edited By grifter78
    @Masamune69500:
    You can catch up on Wildcats pretty quick.  Both trades are out-Wildcats: World's End Book 1 : 
    http://wildstormresource.wetpaint.com/page/Wildcats%3A+World%27s+End+Book+One    
     
    & Wildcats: Family Secrets
    http://wildstormresource.wetpaint.com/page/Wildcats%3A+Family+Secrets+TP 
     
    I'm sure the next trade will be out soon.  But issues 13-18 shouldn't be too hard to track down.  issue 19 is the start of the new run and if you're completely new, it might be a little hard to follow but not too much. 
     
    You don't have to read both The Authoriy and Wildcats to understand everything but doing so will give the big picture about what's going on.  Hope that helps.  If you have any other questions feel free to ask.  :)
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    #34  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
    @Masamune69500:
    Yeah, they both recently started new runs and they have been doing a good job with recapping things so you won't be lost if you go back just a little.
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    #35  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    If I was going to read a Wildstorm comic, RIGHT NOW..what would anyone suggest?

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    #36  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
    @Vance Astro: Like just picking up the next issue? 
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    #37  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Well is there books starting a new volume?

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    #38  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
    @Vance Astro:  Now new volume on the horizon, but a new direction for the two main books. You can pick up the next issue of Wildcats (23). It's the start of a new arc (that will end with Zealot fighting Midnighter). You might find it worth it to go back to 19 though since that was the start of the run and it's been pretty good so far, or at least the last issue. It was a breather issue between arcs that is probably good for new readers. You can drop in on the Authority at any time. The new team took over last issue (22) but since its new direction (18) the story isn't so tight that you can't just pick it up anywhere. Like I said, the recap page should fill you in on everything in either of the books. There's also DV8 Gods and Monsters which is a mini that's only had one issue out so far. Those are the only Wildstorm Universe books out now I think.
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    #39  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Alright.I'm going to give Wildcats a try.Zealot vs. Midnighter sounds interesting.

    I stopped reading Authority quite a while ago.I will see if I can get into it now.

    I have never heard of DV8 Gods although I think I might have seen some art for it.Are you currently reading it? Or have you read some of the issues?

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    #40  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
    @Vance Astro: I read the first issue but I knew what it was going to be about and that's pretty much what the first issue is about so it didn't really impress me much. It's a good setup though and I'm going to keep reading it.
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    #41  Edited By CosmicSpiral
    @Buckshot: Question. 
     
    Being a master of all things Wildstorm, I'm sure you've also read Planetary as well and know about the Four. They met the alternate Earth in '61 and were paving the way for its invasion, which is supposed to happen next year. Any word on whether it will or writers recognizing its importance?
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    #42  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
    @CosmicSpiral:

    I highly doubt anything from Planetary will show up. Planetary really only barely fit into the WSU to begin with. Aside from a couple crossovers there wasn't too much interaction with other WSU titles. And as far as I know, there's been no mention of post-world's end Planetary activity so I don't expect very much. However, a crisis of some sort is on the horizon and the creators seem to have a good knowledge of and appreciation for WSU history so they may surprise us. That said, the heroes of the WSU just faced an enemy from another dimension so that might not be different enough to be worth it.
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    #43  Edited By doordoor123

    So i want to start reading everything in the Wildstorm Universe, but i know literally nothing about it. I figure i should start from the start of Gen13 vol.4, The Authority vol.5, and WildCats vol.5
    If i start at these places will i be lost? Or can someone please direct me to where i should start reading?
     
    @Buckshot: Looks like youre the closest im going to get at asking an expert. where should i start?

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    #44  Edited By Nerx

    I wonder whats next for the Authority

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    #46  Edited By geraldthesloth

    I haven't read the last 3 issues of Authority or WildCATS :( anyone wanna fill me in?

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    #47  Edited By grifter78
    @geraldthesloth:
    I'll send you summaries, check your PM's.
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    #48  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @grifter78: Thanks man
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    #49  Edited By grifter78
    @Nerx:
    Finding out the origin of The Carrier by the end of the year hopefully!  :D
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    #50  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

    Anyone else curious about what's in Hawksmoor's box? I'm kinda hoping he looked through a Door one day right into Brainiac's ship and stole some bottled cities. That would be great.  
     
    What team is Fuji on? Clearly he's on the Wildcats team, but he's on Authority covers. What's up with that. (Maybe that's what Hawksmoor has in the box?)
     
    The WSU is a low-magic universe? I recently read some of Savant Garde and that's what one of the characters there said. The main wildstorm universe is "low-magic". Then there was that issue of The Lost Year where they find that planet parasites and they talked about that universe being low-energy (there were no superhumans because the planets energy was being eaten by the parasites) and then another issue they came across an Earth where technology and science were equal. The Savant Garde issue made me think of the other two, and I started to realize it was right. There's magic in the WSU, but not a lot. I had already noticed that telepathy was, for the most part, treated differently than in say Marvel. The characters with telepathy don't use it as freely as in Marvel and for some of them it's difficult or even painful. There are a fair amount of people with tk, but straight tp is kind of rare. I had always taken that as part of the writers' efforts to keep things manageable, because if someone has TP they can pretty much do what they want (look at Tao, and he doesn't even have TP) and with characters that are on the whole more manipulative, secretive and up to no good, the telepaths would have free reign of the place. My theory for magic is just that it makes things less real. Telepathy you can pseudo-science a reason for, but you can't do that with magic. And since the WSU likes to hang on to the real where it can, that makes sense. I think technology is the WSU's thing. It's real enough and you can fake stuff without it seeming impossible.  If you look at it there a lot of tech-based or enhanced WSU characters. Don't know if they're the majority though. These are the 3 major groupings in the WSU I think:
     
    genetics (accidentally or purposefully altered genes): comet, genfactor, alien-hybrids
    technology
    magic

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