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    Billy Kaplan, an electrokinetic mutant with magical and reality warping abilities, joined the Young Avengers under the name Asgardian (which was later changed to Wiccan) as part of Vision's fail safe program to ensure the existence of the Avengers team. Wiccan and his teammate/brother Speed are believed to be the reincarnations of the Scarlet Witch's dead twin sons. He is considered a powerful mage, and was revealed to be the Demiurge, a being of great power, destined to one day "rewrite the laws of magic".

    Why does it say that Wiccan was in comics prior to the YA?

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    #1  Edited By Endymion

    Is it referring to him back when he was still one of the Scarlet Witch's magically created kids? Or is that a mistake?

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    #2  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    Probably.

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    #3  Edited By Endymion

    fesak says:

    "Probably."

    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in.

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    #4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Endymion says:

    "fesak says:
    "Probably."
    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in."

    He's saying it's probably a mistake because that's what you asked....

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    #5  Edited By Endymion

    Vance Astro says:

    "Endymion says:
    "fesak says:
    "Probably."
    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in."

    He's saying it's probably a mistake because that's what you asked...."

    I asked whether it was one thing or another, and he gave a very vague reply.

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    #6  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Endymion says:

    "Vance Astro says:
    "Endymion says:
    "fesak says:
    "Probably."
    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in."
    He's saying it's probably a mistake because that's what you asked...."
    I asked whether it was one thing or another, and he gave a very vague reply."

    If he's saying that it's probably an error,what more needs to be said.

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    #7  Edited By Endymion

    Vance Astro says:

    "Endymion says:
    "Vance Astro says:
    "Endymion says:
    "fesak says:
    "Probably."
    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in."
    He's saying it's probably a mistake because that's what you asked...."
    I asked whether it was one thing or another, and he gave a very vague reply."

    If he's saying that it's probably an error,what more needs to be said."

    He didn't say it was an error, he just said "probably". If I asked someone whether they had made a mistake or if I made a mistake and their only answer was "Yes", I would be very confused.
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    #8  Edited By TeeCub

    They WERE in older comics, actually. I remember reading one where they were born. Even if it was before they were reabsorbed and reborn, I suppose that, since their souls are the same, they are the same characters and, so, those old appearances still count :)

    Also note: I can't remember what issue it was, but reading that one is really well worth it for the cute factor, no matter how sad what ends up happening ins.

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    #9  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    Endymion says:

    "fesak says:
    "Probably."

    Probably what? Speed's page is like this too, but it makes less sense because it has Maverick, a comic that neither the Scarlet Witch nor Vision(I mention him because he's their "dad") make appearances in."

    Vision isn't their father, never has been.

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    #10  Edited By grimm

    vision is there father

    ...technically
    scarlet wtich was dating him and i guess when she created them he was their dad
    and they were in  other comics because they were born a while ago
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    #11  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    Lol, probably.

    Someone created by magic would not have a father, only a creator.
    And was it ever confirmed in the comics that Wiccan and Speed is infact the magically created children of Scarlet Witch or not?

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    #12  Edited By Drift

     
    @TeeCub said:

    "They WERE in older comics, actually. I remember reading one where they were born. Even if it was before they were reabsorbed and reborn, I suppose that, since their souls are the same, they are the same characters and, so, those old appearances still count :)

    Also note: I can't remember what issue it was, but reading that one is really well worth it for the cute factor, no matter how sad what ends up happening ins."


    It does say in his bio that the first appearance was 'The Vision and the Scarlet Witch ' issue 12, could that be what you're thinking of?  Hell, even the cover says the issue contains Wanda giving birth, so yeah, they probably showed up beforehand.
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    Well considering that Wanda was married to Vision and he helped raise the twins before Master Pandemonium took them... I would say he is the father.

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    but how old is Wiccan and speed supposed to be anyways? i mean the scarlet witch looks waaay to young for them to be around 15

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