Wasp needs a comeback ?

#1 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it just me or am I the only one that thinks they need to bring back Wasp ?

#2 Edited by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn right she does.

#3 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

#4 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah what about The Human Torch, Superman, X-Man, Black Bolt and meany others there back so there death diden't mean anything ?

#5 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

It was meaningless from the get-go.

#6 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35 said:

@moywar700 said:

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

It was meaningless from the get-go.

This.

#7 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kid_Omega_Prime said:

Oh yeah what about The Human Torch, Superman, X-Man, Black Bolt and meany others there back so there death diden't mean anything ?

X-Man was never died but he turned himself into energy which he could later return if he gathered the energy necessary. Dark Beast and Beast had a chat about his kinda death and Jean's death, and explain how Nate could return way even before Dark X-Men happened.

#8 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGreyOutcastX: When was this?

#9 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGreyOutcastX: He was dead. Saying that he turned himself into energy was Marvel's way of bringing him back. Just like Captain America didn't die and Wasp is some giant energy space thing in another dimension.

#10 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35: The image? X-Factor 22 (3rd series) It came out in October 2007.

Or did you mean something else?

#11 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGreyOutcastX: Thanks! i'd never seen it before so was curious. yeah, I haven't picked up X-Factor in a long time... for shame

#12 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nobody: He merged will ALL life on the planet so he would still technically be alive in all life. And they never said he died. It's all about the wording. Jean died, Nate dispersed himself into energy. Energy that can regathered. That and Nate became a psionic entity so if you want to be technical, only thing that died was his body. His mind lived on.

#13 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

Plus, y'know, he came back to life and all that.

#14 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGreyOutcastX: If you're body is dead, most people would consider you dead. But now we are just arguing technicalities. He was gone, but now he's not. That's all that matters.

#15 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nobody: Considering that Nate basically died from cold snap in X-Man 28 or 29, but his mind kept going keeping him alive, that really puts a hamper on that concept. His mind is all the matters. He's a living, breathing thought aka a Psionic Entity now. That's the difference. The body he has now is his mind creating a physical form form for him.

But you are right, all that matter now is Nate is alive....but nerfed. -__-

#16 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35 said:

Damn right she does.

@moywar700 said:

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

but her death was meaningless. She died as a weapon for the Skrulls that failed within less than a page. No aftereffects. Nothing. She didn't help any side in any way. They killed her for shock value and she died in two pages with barely any mourning.

#17 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate it when there deaths are meaningless. Not to mention after a month or two the peason will be back. I like its a wast of our time you know. Or is that just me ?

#18 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

We don't actually know if Janet is dead or not.  Thor ported her away while she was presumably dying, but only he knows where she went.

#19 Posted by Hysteria (208 posts) - - Show Bio

What would happen if she came back but stuck at giant size?

#20 Posted by Cosmic_Hobo (60 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope she doesn't. Characters coming back from death is easily my least favourite thing about comics. Character death has zero emotional impact on me at this point, because I always know they'll be back. No wonder characters rarely grieve for more than 1 issue

#21 Posted by LordTerminal (44 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrMiracle77 said:

We don't actually know if Janet is dead or not. Thor ported her away while she was presumably dying, but only he knows where she went.

She was last seen in Erebus. I think that proves she's dead.

@Cosmic_Hobo said:

I really hope she doesn't. Characters coming back from death is easily my least favourite thing about comics. Character death has zero emotional impact on me at this point, because I always know they'll be back. No wonder characters rarely grieve for more than 1 issue

Even if there death was nothing more than pointless shock value? It's badly written deaths that are the reason why this crap should be retconned in the first place. Maybe Marvel was smart and didn't let Bendis write ANYTHING for them, we wouldn't be in this situation.

#22 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35: she does not need to comeback like jean grey they need to stay dead

#23 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180 said:

@X35: she does not need to comeback like jean grey they need to stay dead

No. Unlike Jean Grey, Wasp's death means nothing to the character or the story. Her death was not poetic. It did not further a plot. It wasn't even emotional. It was a death to fill a quota. To make an event seem important.

#24 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35: isee were you are comeing from but to me both jean grey and wasp are crap chaacters and need to stay dead

#25 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: So, screw the people who like the Wasp or Jean Grey for the sake of your own personal opinion? Thanks...

#26 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35:

#27 Posted by Duncan (11427 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes!

#28 Posted by Moonchilde (1601 posts) - - Show Bio

@primepower53 said:

@X35 said:

Damn right she does.

@moywar700 said:

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

but her death was meaningless. She died as a weapon for the Skrulls that failed within less than a page. No aftereffects. Nothing. She didn't help any side in any way. They killed her for shock value and she died in two pages with barely any mourning.

^QFT! I'd be for keeping her dead if the way in which she died was done in an emotional or meaningful way, but it wasn't. It was done in a lazy manner, and seemingly for pure shock value. And in one of the worst cross-over events in recent memory (which says a lot for how bad that story was).

#29 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (12424 posts) - - Show Bio

Bring.Janet.Back. Mmmmmmkay

#30 Posted by LordTerminal (44 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moonchilde said:

@primepower53 said:

@X35 said:

Damn right she does.

@moywar700 said:

She shouldn't or else her death would be less meaningful. =[

but her death was meaningless. She died as a weapon for the Skrulls that failed within less than a page. No aftereffects. Nothing. She didn't help any side in any way. They killed her for shock value and she died in two pages with barely any mourning.

^QFT! I'd be for keeping her dead if the way in which she died was done in an emotional or meaningful way, but it wasn't. It was done in a lazy manner, and seemingly for pure shock value. And in one of the worst cross-over events in recent memory (which says a lot for how bad that story was).

Forget how bad Secret Invasion was, it says a lot of how much of a hackneyed writer Bendis has become in recent times and how biased he is against certain Marvel characters and licenses. How the man hasn't been fired by now, I have no idea.

#31 Posted by sonny1 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

She's already back as a cyborg in secret avengers.

#32 Posted by Katie24 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonny1 said:

She's already back as a cyborg in secret avengers.

What?!?! When did that happen?

#33 Edited by sonny1 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

She doesn't remember who she is and is part of a group of cyborgs called the descendants who are the bad guys, O'grady the secret avengers Ant man is working for the descendants either he was killed by them and replaced, or is under their control was turned into a cyborg. Check out Secret Avengers # 22.

#34 Posted by Katie24 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonny1 said:

She doesn't remember who she is and is part of a group of cyborgs called the descendants who are the bad guys, O'grady the secret avengers Ant man is working for the descendants either he was killed by them and replaced, or is under their control was turned into a cyborg. Check out Secret Avengers # 22.

I just might. Who is currently writing Secret Avengers?

#35 Posted by sonny1 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

I am hoping it is not some tease. I am guessing after this arc with the descendants her memories will return.

#36 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (8846 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. She has been away for a while. But I have a feeling once Ant Man the movie comes out she will be back

#37 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (5875 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasp was awesome! Kill EMMA FROST!

#38 Posted by sonny1 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

@Katie24:

@Katie24 said:

@sonny1 said:

She doesn't remember who she is and is part of a group of cyborgs called the descendants who are the bad guys, O'grady the secret avengers Ant man is working for the descendants either he was killed by them and replaced, or is under their control was turned into a cyborg. Check out Secret Avengers # 22.

I just might. Who is currently writing Secret Avengers?

Rick Remender

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