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Posted by blackcat_hull

as there have always been multiple batman stories running at the same time, i think they'll keep Bruce as batman in the main continuity, and expole the other options in off-shoot books. 
 
Bruce doesn't need to age to allow other characters to grow up and evolve...Bruce is still roughly the same age when Dick first became Robin, but Dick is now an adult, and proved himself as Nightwing, and even Tim has grown up and moved on.

Posted by red robin 15

i really enjoyed the video and would like to see a future with all the bat family involved. also i would like to mention how the other possible future of batman when Tim drake becomes a killer and wanted to know why it wasn't mentioned?

Edited by Marshal Victory

The whole ageless thing for batman can be explained fairly easy now..  

http://www.comicvine.com/lazarus-pit/18-40817/  could not a side effect of useng it be slowed ageing?Naw that be to simple.. hmm theirs one in the bat cave now to .

Posted by AMP - Seeker of Lost Knowledge
@johnny spam: Agree with the alternate universe time-lines
 
If all were true it's basically starting off with Batman: Dark Knight Returns (where he's like 50/60, and the world is darker), KINGDOM COME (where he's like mid-60, and the world is brighter), AND finally BATMAN BEYOND (versions 1.0, where we have 'grandpa' Bruce, and 2.0 where we then have DAMIEN, the world is moving forward......).
Posted by Darknight87

I like all realities and the differences, and even the different people under the masks. But I don't ever want to see the day when they totally replace Bruce and move on with other characters. I can be okay with Bruce having other Batmen on his side, but I don't want a world where Bruce doesn't exist in any continuity, though I would like to see Batman beyond and Damian as Batman extended upon maybe as even an alternate series all on it's own. Like how they seperated Golden Age and Silver age and so on but yet they still exist in their own titles

Posted by Feliciano2040
@batman_is_god said:
" Why is everybody always talking about Batman aging? How long has Peter Parker stayed young? Or any other character?  IT IS FICTION. Why is it a crime for the characters to be ageless? "
Because it's absurdly infantile ? incredibly nonsensical ? artistically hampering ? Take your pick.
Posted by HexThis

Every generation tries to answer the same riddle as to how Bruce Wayne can live happily ever after seemingly without noting he's been around the same age for half a century and some change. This is why comic books have such a palpable presence in pop culture, they're almost transcendent of any other franchises because not only do they have different incarnations but they're constant. How can we mess with that? We can't. 
 
And though Morrison is doing some good writing, there's no way Damian is here to stay. He'll either be swept out of canon or killed or something along those lines and maybe rightfully so. After all, what is with all this father and sons mumbo-jumbo with the DC Universe, does every son have to follow in the footsteps of his father? Bruce becoming a physician, Clark becoming a farmer. Vomit.  

Posted by WilliamHenry
@batman_is_god said:
" Why is everybody always talking about Batman aging? How long has Peter Parker stayed young? Or any other character?  IT IS FICTION. Why is it a crime for the characters to be ageless? "

I'm not up to date on Spiderman at all, but do other characters age alongside Peter while he doesn't?
Posted by entropy_aegis

Damians future was the bomb.
Posted by War Killer

I personally liked how Batman #700 set it up, from how I read the story, something happens to Bruce in the near future (fallout of Batman Inc. possible? O_o) and Damian takes over, excepting his mantle as the son of Batman and we see him grow as Batman. Honestly I'd like to see Batman break away from like the JLA, which seemed to be what happened to Damian even though we did see Conner as Superman talking to him (which was a nice touch to other characters aging as well), and then down the road, depending on how DC wants to go, either something happens to Damian and Bruce returns, or Bruce doesn't return and Terry takes over the mantle as Batman Beyond and we see what we're seeing now in the new comic but with Damian as his mentor, honestly what makes Terry being in the role and makes that future so appealing, at least to me, was seeing Bruce pass on his knowledge to Terry, and the whole father/son bound they have together (even though I do hate that they actually made Terry Bruce's biological son....kinda saw that as pointless to be honest, but agaon, that's just me xD)

Posted by cmaprice

None of these futures are going to come to pass. Batman will keep going, as he is until he becomes public domain.

Posted by GT-Man

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Posted by Big

I don't think DC should or will close the book on Bruce Wayne. He is  too closely linked to the Batman myth. The films have helped to solidify Bruce Wayne as part of the myth. If DC were to age Batman in continuity, which I seriously doubt, then I think it would be in keeping with the "Dark Knight Returns" version a la Frank Miller. Bruce will always be active as Batman, and Miller's version shows Bruce still kicking as Batman, so I think that would be the most plausible scenario.
Posted by NXH

I agree with you, Babs. Batman will never age in the standard continuity. But the one possible future that seems more believeable is the Batman Beyond one (that was a great show). Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns I always found interesting and in some ways it seems more relevant now than it did back then (if you understand where I'm coming from).

Posted by thechessclub
@Marshal Victory said:
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The whole ageless thing for batman can be explained fairly easy now..  

http://www.comicvine.com/lazarus-pit/18-40817/  theirs one in the bat cave now to...

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Are you serious? Since when(what issues of what title???)?
Posted by Derangel

I would love to see Bruce age. I like the thought of these characters aging and changing over time. I get bored seeing the same stories and the same unchanging characters all the time. Its one of the reasons I've really liked X-men in the last couple years. Major changes, characters evolving, things being set that will be hard to revet. So many things in comics these days are meaningless. Writers have already ruined the impact of death and at this point I'm so much of a jaded fan that I just roll my eyes at any claims of "things changing" for comics. So many times we're promised big changes and things just return to normal. I'm sure Batman Inc will end up falling apart and things will return to normal for Batman and family. I want to see the writers get together and work up a long, involved, storyline that really does change everything. I'm not talking about doing something stupid like pulling a Bludhaven with Gotham, but just something that forces the characters to evolve some more and to make them stronger more interesting people. Morrison has the skill to do it, hell he managed to make Cyclops an interesting character during his time on X-men; a feat that wouldn't happen again until Whedon jumped on board. 
 
tl:dr version: I'm tired of the status quo being the status quo. I'm not a fan of "change for the sake of change", but I think its really time for a major shakeup to happen at both DC and Marvel. I want comics to be something I love collecting week-to-week again. Its too late to ask for DC and Marvel to gain some sense and put a stop to all the pointless and purely for shock deaths and revivals, but I'll take what I can get.

Posted by Doctor!!!!!

Batman needs to take a break...... 
Just Sayin'

Posted by necenarro

So, Damien and Terry are actually brothers. We find out in Justice League Unlimited that  Amanda Waller from Cadmus tells Terry this (awesome episode!). Maybe Bruce dies, but hypnotizes Damien to think he's Bruce Wayne, the only way to assure Damien stays on same path Bruce was on. Then the reveal of Terry being Damien's son! Makes sense age wise... I think in first episode of Beyond, Bruce is already around 60, then when Terry comes on board it's like 15+ years later. 
 
I'd go Beyond. Fantastic story line.

Posted by DEGRAAF

I agree that they should have them all age. Eventually allowing batman to retire or at least take a step back from being the main Batman. He still has the knowledge and capabilities to command and fulfill a plan when fighting as a team but he should be showing his age (ex. slowing reflexes and reaction times, more soreness the next day, needing a hip or knee replacement). Let the DCU age and show new stories with new characters 
Posted by McQuinn

I like seeing an aging Bruce. I always feel age progression in comics also progress the comics themselves as a whole. If you don't you get a ton a stupid universes and you'll need some kind of crisis to explain it all. 
 
I really like the Batman: Beyond one although I do love the other ideas a ton too.

Posted by zityz

i would like to see both Damian and Terry. Bruce is more of a mentor for Terry where Damian takes on his dad's legacy.  
 
 
Or just go with the crazy thought of having a green lantern idea of multiple batmen  at once.

Posted by MrDelicious

It's not the 80s anymore folks. What people fail to take into account is the gap of real time. Thirty years from now, Batman will be a hundred years old. It's a fact. A hundred years? That's insane for most modern characters, excluding novels.  
 
The characters should age. I hardly read DC or Marvel anymore because of the lack of control that editors have over writers or just the constant resets and unnecessary retcons. Characters deaging, reaging. It's fine once in a while, but when Bruce Wayne is a hundred in real time, but thirty two to thirty five in 2040. You know there's something wrong. Comics should reflect the period and times of the people. The concept itself remains the same, it's what people miss. It not Bruce Wayne that makes Batman, it Batman that makes Bruce Wayne. I never cared for his life or personal connections, atleast not anymore. Batman as a symbol, as a living ideal is what interests me more. And how each character interprets that legacy for themselves ladies and gentlemen, is what makes a hero truly classic. 

Posted by Gylan Thomas
@MrDelicious: 
The problem with aging comic characters is they'd eventually die out. Clark and Bruce would eventually be no more and over time people would lose interest.
 
You mention novels but the difference there is it's just one story that's endured. In superhero comcis it's the character.

Edited by MrDelicious


There's an assortment of characters who exist outside of Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent, Diana Prince,etc,etc. It's a difficult process with any writer. Most of the new characters in continuity that are introduce tend to die, are booed, or suffers Danny boy's wrath for ruining his precious continuity. 
I can see it now, twenty years from now it'll be Kingdom Come because my generation grew up with the 90s and the Modern Age.   
If writers can't come up with interesting new characters(which is a lie, Invicible, I know, I know) It's because of the never ending story syndrome. Sure I love Batman,Wonder Woman, the Titans, and all the "classic" characters. But it's not about identifying with a character, it's about identifying with their ideals, their morals, and their psychology that interests me. Batman the symbol fascinates me more than Batman the man, even with his classic story of crime alley and war on crime.
I'm just tired of seeing every quarter of a century DC revamping it's continuity to keep up with the times. What'll be like in 2100? Batman still 32 years old? Just put me out my misery now.
   
Posted by Sydpart2

Has Gman read the second issue of the Batman Beyond ongoing yet? Cause Bruce is freaking hilarious in that issue, I ask because they bring the Justice League back into it. I do hope Damian will show up in Beyond.

Posted by tremerefury

DKR is the future of All Star Batman and Robin, not the "real" Batman. That has been established. That future isn't "our" Bruce's future. Also, there's nothing stopping them from having Damien in Batman Beyond. I know that it says Tim was the last Robin, but who says he can't take that role again? I mean, after Stephanie Brown was Robin, he took the role back. I can totally see Damien deciding he wants his own moniker, to follow in his fathers footsteps, not Dick, Jason and Tim's (Batboy, maybe? IDK). That could then open the door for Tim to go from Red Robin, back to Robin. I think 700 is logically the most likely future, since Damien says "You're all learning" which to me, indicates a future Batman Inc. 

Posted by JonesDeini

I have to disagree (guess I'm nit picky), because you can't have it all. Especially when it comes to Beyond and Batman 666/700. Unless it all goes down JUST the way Morrison set it up. With Damien serving in Bruce's roll as Terry's mentor/guide. It's stated that Bruce died when Damien's 14 in 666. 700 set the stage for Beyond to become mainline continuity. However, by all accounts the series takes place in it's own reality in which Bruce lives. Honestly I don't see any of these futures as truly viable. Characters don't age in real time (at least rarely) and DC will always keep it's big 3 alive and in their rolls. 

Posted by steverogers_420

personally i think lazystudent's idea is pretty genius.

Posted by Out_of_Space

I really enjoy this video :-)

Posted by Eyz
@JonesDeini said:
" I have to disagree (guess I'm nit picky), because you can't have it all. Especially when it comes to Beyond and Batman 666/700. Unless it all goes down JUST the way Morrison set it up. With Damien serving in Bruce's roll as Terry's mentor/guide. It's stated that Bruce died when Damien's 14 in 666. 700 set the stage for Beyond to become mainline continuity. However, by all accounts the series takes place in it's own reality in which Bruce lives. Honestly I don't see any of these futures as truly viable. Characters don't age in real time (at least rarely) and DC will always keep it's big 3 alive and in their rolls.  "
I still like to take all these future as "hypothetical" futures for a specific point of time. Like Booster Gold future, or Kahmandi, or HEX, or the bad future in Teen Titans (where Tim went all crazy), etc..
None of these futures are THE definitive future. Just choices and possibilities. So would Beyond or "Damian is the Batman" future realities. :P
Posted by MisterMollusk

I'm surprised no one's written a future where Batman uses the Lazarus pit.

Posted by Omega-Man

Little comic for you to look up guys Superman and Batman generations good read on what if both Superman and Batman aged from there first publications to the here and now.

Posted by elayem98

I always loved batman beyond it is the perfect and most appropriate future for batman, and i love that terry is also bruces genetic son too. dark knight returns was pretty cool too, but dont like it as much as BB. 
I dont at all like damian batman. i dont know why. maybe its the trenchcoat flasher batman suit, maybe it just isnt as solid as BB or TDKR. 
 
Simply: i want it to go TDKR, skip TDKSA, skip damian, then go to BB.

Posted by adambeechen

Hi folks:  

Thanks for the kind words of support in the video feature, and to all the reply-ees who are enjoying the series.  We've got good stuff coming for fans of BOTH the animated series and the mainstream DCU...Issue 4 focuses on a key supporting character from the animated, series, issues 5-8 bring back key villains from the animated series, and issues 9-11 features a very familiar face from the DCU never seen (I don't think) in the animated series!  Ryan, John, David, Steve, Dustin, Chris and I all hope you'll stay with us as the train really gets rolling!
 
Best, 
Adam Beechen

Posted by Man of Lengend

batman beyond all the way.

Posted by No_Name_
@Marshal Victory said:
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The whole ageless thing for batman can be explained fairly easy now..  

http://www.comicvine.com/lazarus-pit/18-40817/  could not a side effect of useng it be slowed ageing?Naw that be to simple.. hmm theirs one in the bat cave now to .

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Actually, the Lazarus Pit has been said to drive people that use it, mad, so I don't know if it can be used as an explanation.
Posted by FalcomAdol
@johnny spam said: 

I only see characters like Damian becoming the main Batman and Bruce being forgotten if copyright laws and legal technicality might mean Bruce becomes public domain but a younger character like Damian could be whoever owns DC in the future would want to somehow keep Batman rights and using Damian would be the key. "

Well, you probably don't need to worry about that.  There is a pretty well defined hole in public domain rights in the US that allows companies like Disney to keep characters locked up indefinitely.  That and the continuing extension of copyright periods.  I think that I heard once that nothing has entered the public domain for about the last 40 years at this point in the US because of the continuing extension of copyright (that was a long time ago, maybe it is no longer true). 
 
There's always the possibility of dumping Damien into a dimensional hole and having him pop out 7 years older with magical powers.  It's been done before, it will be done again. 
 
Of course, that was in the Marvel universe, where there is a well defined sliding time scale.  All of history piles up behind "now".  In the 60s and 70s Marvel time advanced (particularly in X-Men/FF/Spider-man) and characters went from teenagers to adults in college, got married, had children, celebrated Christmas.  Once you get to about 23, it's pointless keeping track of age until you're well into your 40s, there are few differences for adults in good physical condition (and heroes are in good condition).
Posted by DMC

I can't believe that  is being brought up. Are there actually people out there who want Bruce to eventually step down as Batman?
 
We all know that will never happen and if it does, that means pigs can fly and dogs and cats are living together : P
I don't care how many Robins or other characters come down the pipe, they will never beat the original. Bruce Wayne is the best there is and ever will be. 
 
As much as I like DKR and Batman Beyond, I hope both of those futures never come to pass. Sorry.

Posted by Midnight Monk

Batman Inc.= Batman Army= Kingdom Come, Magog may be dead but it's gonna happen no matter what. :p

Posted by Marshal Victory
@Babs said:
"@Marshal Victory said:
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The whole ageless thing for batman can be explained fairly easy now..  

http://www.comicvine.com/lazarus-pit/18-40817/  could not a side effect of useng it be slowed ageing?Naw that be to simple.. hmm theirs one in the bat cave now to .

             "
Actually, the Lazarus Pit has been said to drive people that use it, mad, so I don't know if it can be used as an explanation.

                   

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Ah but one of the little know  side effects of the Lazarus pit looks to me like a much longer life span.From this very site "Ra’s al Ghul was born 700 years ago " http://www.comicvine.com/ras-al-ghul/29-40816/ seems like the Lazarus pit sure fits the explantaion to me."through use of the Lazarus Pits, al Ghul has been able to prolong his life considerably " side effect seems besides the madness tho short term is longevity. Also check out DCUO new trailer that explains lex gong back in time etc an note who he leaves behind .  http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/02/08/dc-universe-online-releases-a-cinematic-of-the-future-and-the/
Edited by Mezmero

Interestingly enough if you caught the Justice League Unlimited cartoon they actually touch on Mcginnis' true origins which involve a cockamamie secret Cadmus plan to clone Bruce Wayne.  In addition to stamping the genetics onto his unsuspecting parents, they wanted to simulate the tragedy of losing them.  Unfortunately the plan falls apart when the assassin they hire totally pusses out on killing the parents leaving Terry to become a delinquent until his teens when his origins began.  As for Batman I prefer a future where old man Wayne dons the Grey Ghost persona to solve crimes like a P.I.

Posted by noj

I LOVE Beyond, but I have to admit that at times it can be horribly depressing. I know that Bruce isn't the kindest most gentle person in the world, and that he isn't always the easiest person to get along with, but am I supposed to believe that NO ONE cares about him anymore!?!? I mean when it comes down to it he adopted and cared for Dick and Tim, and now it seems like they can't even stand the sight of him. All of his former partners talk about him as if they "outgrew" him or something. It's really sad to think of the life that he had before he met Terry living in his Mansion with only his dog for company.
 
But now that I got that off my chest I would personally like to see the Damian future, and I have a feeling that if DC continues the way they are going we will see Batman and the rest age in about a decade or so, especially if they want Damian to grow uup

Posted by curtman2k20

I think Batman's future should be with Terry McGuinness and maybe have a story about where when Damien became Batman he took it too far and ended up killing a villain or two and Bruce disapproves so he takes back the mantle until he almost kills someone and then it leads into Batman Beyond, and maybe have Damien go nuts and become the second Hush or some other Mad Man Rogue for Terry to face..Just IMO
Posted by MattDemers

DC seems pretty intent on making Kingdom Come the true "canon" future for their universe. 
 
Or at least in everything Geoff Johns writes.

Posted by jmilb10053

Sara seems bored

Posted by -chapel-
@lazystudent: Awesum....
Posted by guitarlicks4

Just a great video and also a hefty topic. I felt like this video could've gone on for an extra hour. Call me a sentimental old guy but it would break my heart if Bruce Wayne were to no longer be Batman. Even though Dick Grayson is actually pretty good at taking up that mantle Bruce is the one that brings the solemn, obsessive, dark side to that mythic figure. You can argue that Dick has a similar past and therefore is actually bringing the same qualities to the suit it just wouldn't be the same. 
 
I will give DC the benefit of the doubt though, as I'm sure they've got everything planned out. If we're indeed going in the direction of Bruce Wayne slowly stepping back from having a role in the streets than I'd like to see Batman inc. and Batman Beyond meet somewhere in the middle. 
 
Imagine if Bruce builds Batman Inc. up and functions for a few years when something really awful happens to all the Bats in the world leaving him the alone...again...eventually leading him to Terry McGinnis.

Posted by ord

i say batman beyond
Posted by alphamale73

Nice video. However the music in the background is quite distracting.

Posted by dvorak
@jmilb10053 said:

" Sara seems bored "

Calculating and precise. This is science!    
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