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Posted by PhantomAres

I was already unsure about getting this, and seeing the review has just made me even more uncertain about it... Doesn't help I'm not a Daredevil fan.

Posted by SnakeEyes327

Babs needs to learn how to hide her disappointed more at the beginning of these things, if only to keep me interested in what she has to say.

Posted by the_nightwalker

daredevil has been great the past several months and shadowland's gonna be no exception. I'm wondering if there is a single review that Babs isn't whiny and condescending in and where G-man isn't biting his tongue as she rants, it's getting redundant and depressing at this point. 
the reason cap and thor etc are in this is because the events surrounding shadowland will have repercussions for lots of marvel heros on how they are perceived in the public in the light of DD's violent turn, they didn't do much becuase it is only issue one and they are staggering in plot devices. How much more can you expect from the first issue in a cross-over? You have the dilemma presented between the heros, you have matt's turn, bullseye's death... Shoadowland's gonna get better and better, my opinion. 
But yeah, too many extra titles in the saga, like power-man, ghost-rider, women of he shadow or whatever that was called. just stick to the shadowland 1-5 and DD, and maybe Bullseye: Funeral for a Fiend for fun

Posted by GraphicCasualFreak

I do agree with Babs about the stuff crossing over into too many books.  Don't people buy enough comics?  Maybe not for publishers...  Anyway, I'll probably pick up the Moon Knight books and some of the others cause I'm a sucker for that stuff.  But I probably won't pick up everything. 
      Thanks for your 0-hype review guys, it was refreshing to hear an unbiased opinion. 

Posted by MichaeltheFly

I agree with you Babs entirely, to many Avengers, I also think they weren't needed, I mean Luke Cage, Moonknight and Spider-man have eyes they could have seen Daredevil's activities without without Thor, Iron Man and Captain America. I am really starting to hate the Avengers. Overall I think the issue had it's moments but it didn't deserve more than a 3, strictly my opinion.

Edited by Jeffmoocow

Marvel pretty much spoiling what happens on the last page kinda did piss me off, I think it could have been such a bigger thing if they kept it a secret.  I really hope they have something up their sleeves with that character for later in this series just to make up for spoiling that. 

Posted by NexusOfLight

Shadowland did sneak up on me. I haven't really seen all the teasers and I watched the music video after reading the first issue. Having read it, it was great. I loved it. I figured the ending was still surprising even after seeing the image advertised, because seriously, who takes promo images seriously? Grain of salt. All and all, the issue had me wowing and wowing. I'll probably pick up all the related issues as they come out. I'm am seriously amped up about this.

Posted by johnny_spam

That voice in that music video was to deep for the singers of Linkin Park.

Posted by Freedom Fighters

once again the big M fs up in a big way!!! 
done with marvel's small minded ways...nough said.

Posted by sora_thekey

I seriously want to know WTH is up with Daredevil!
but if it's not living up to the hype... then I won't buy it

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Posted by Top Flight Security
@Jeffmoocow said:
" Marvel pretty much spoiling what happens on the last page kinda did piss me off, I think it could have been such a bigger thing if they kept it a secret.  I really hope they have something up their sleeves with Bullseye for later in this series just to make up for spoiling that.  "
I agree totally! I do not like the fact that there are soooo many books to buy to get the entire story. I'm not spending my money like that. Maybe I'll do it when the trade hardback comes out.
Posted by NexusOfLight
@sora_thekey said:
" I seriously want to know WTH is up with Daredevil! but if it's not living up to the hype... then I won't buy it "
It's living up to the hype, but the problem is, the hypes already been spoiled by Marvel's solicits. That music video did have a lot of actual images of the comic in it.
Posted by timrothsays

Cassaday? I thought it was Steve Dillon :D

Posted by HT101

Is this that time of the month for Sara?  She seemed extra whiny in this video.  Personally, if I was still buying comics, I would get this and the Daredevil books and that's it.  I'd probably check out the others when they come out in a TPB but others I would leave them alone.  Getting two books for an event is nothing.  This event still looks awesome and I wish I was buying comics still.

Posted by Krakoa

Cap, Thor, and Iron Man remind me of the three fates, or Greco-Roman gods watching over the street-level battle.

Posted by Aspenfan1

I will wait for the hard cover

Posted by ArtisticNeedham

 Personally, if I like a character I wouldn't mind see a lot of different comics featuring them.  Maybe it was just that the characters of Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man, seemed out of place in this story and out of time because they have their own stuff going on too.
They have these other stories going on with the Avengers stuff, then their own solo stuff, and suddenly they are jammed into this comic.  But I haven't read it so I don't know why they are there.  I glanced at it but I couldn't afford it.
I don't like comics that make you buy all the crossovers to understand whats happening either.  I just want self contained comics.  They should just put out a Shadowlands Comic instead of forcing buyers to get Shadowland Daredevil, Shadowland Punisher, Shadowland Spider-Man.  Is there a Shadowland title that a buyer could get and now worry about the crossovers without missing anything? Like If a person just bought Shadowlands #2 would they miss a character dying in Shadowland Daredevil or Spider-Man and become completely lost because of that?

Posted by Omega Ray Jay

Would have loved to have followed this crossover however, having to cut back means i'll get the Moon Knight & Ghost Rider Issues only, already following Daredevil and liking it very much. 

Posted by Joe Venom

Wow, I'm glad I didn't watch that music video because I enjoyed this issue! It was fun watching bullseye break back into his old costume. Like Babs I too did not enjoy seeing the big three in this book, but hey better now then later when the good stuff starts to go down.
 
Also I hope that Hand Ninjas manage to kill someone within this series because they really need one, they're supposed to skilled and highly trained yet they come off as no better then A.I.M. or Hydra agents IMO.

Posted by carnivalofsins00

i think the reason why i liked it so much is because im not such a huge DD fan as Babs is.

Posted by Bald Eagle

I totally disagree with Babs.   I think the Avengers are there to start things off.  The Avengers are the top authority when it comes to fighting crime in the Marvel Universe.  And talking to my brother he thought there was more to Daredevil and Bullseye's fight.  Like it was too easy and you have to see more of the story to see how it turns out.
Posted by longbowhunter

I didnt watch the crappy music video so the ending caught me pretty off guard. Also as much as I love Daredevil I didnt really have high expectations for this. I was pleasently suprised. I've learned in the past crossover, spin offs, and one shots in  an event like this are rarely needed. I'll stick with this and DD.
Posted by Bloodstonefreak
@G-Man:  To comment on what you said about The Punisher being normal in Shadowland and still not in Franken-Castle.  There is actually a disclaimer on the recap page in Franken-Castle stating that the events in that book take place before Daredevil #505 (or at that's what the number looks like).  Just wanted to clear that up.  :-)
Posted by JabariSellars

Babs is right, there is something to be said about contained stories which focus on one character and doesn't permeate the entire universe, and taking a break from all of these crossovers. We've been at these consecutive cross-overs for more than half a decade and I believe that with all of the benefits that come from them, they can also be a detriment to things like character development and continutiy. In the past creators seemed to reign in their characters and books after a big cross-over (I'm thinking Crisis on Infinite Earths, Secret Wars), allowing them to develop in their own environment rarely sharing the spotlight with others. At the very least, back then characters weren't on 7 or 8 teams at the same time and readers didn't have to suspend their disbelieve too much. 
 
Posted by Noray

Sara could not have looked more disinterested if she tried. Also I think Unscripted actually needs, well, scripting. This could've been about 3 minutes.

Posted by RoninKane

I had this in my hand at the comic shop and then I spotted the shadowland checklist at the counter and I put it back. I was looking forward to this, but I thought it was going to be contained in "DareDevil" and and "Shadowland". Adding $30 to $35 a month to the comic budget for one event wasn't in the cards and in my opinion shouldn't have to be. This thing with spreading a story across so many titles keeps me away from most Marvel titles. Xmen Second Coming is the exception because the weekly format and use of existing titles.  People might say DC had Blackest Night but in its defence, the main title BN and the two GL books contained the story and the rest of the books showed the effects of the event on the rest of DC universe as it happened. I would rather pay $5.99 for 10-12 weekly 60pg books with the story and if they want to produce addtional side stories for the event,  i'll decide on them on a case by case basis, but don't make me buy a comic I don't want, to only see one to two pages of relevent content relating to the main story.    

Posted by Nionel

I thought this sounded interesting when I heard it was using mostly Marvel's street level heroes, which I think it a nice idea, but it doesn't sound like it's been executed well, that fact that there are so many tie-ins is also a bit of a turn off. Oh well, if it turns out to be good I'll just pick up the trades when they come out.
 
On a side note, what happened to G-Man's cool shirts? All he's been wearing is a blue shirt with a tie for the last few days...

Posted by TheGreatEqualizerMrNoFear

If they kill Daredevil at the end with this....I am 110% DONE with marvel.

Posted by doordoor123

this OBVIOUSLY takes place after Franken-castle is returned to normal after the whole daken thing.

Posted by bingbangboom

I liked the book but it did seem sort of meh to potentially what it could be. Wasn't really feeling the art, sometimes it was excellent and other times it was rushed. There are some continuity issues especially for a cross over book that seems out of place. I think that  Leinil Francis Yu or Jae Lee, or someone to give it a darker tone. The stuff with The Avengers could have been done in one page. Another thing, this shouldn't be as shocking as it is because well its not like it is a cut throat hunt or murder. Basically Daredevil acted like Wolverine. I don't see the rest of the Avengers going ape shit over him.

Posted by HaloKing343

Babs, i'm surprised you gave it a 3 and then trashed it so much. Based on your comments, I feel like a 3 was far too generous.
Posted by jakob187

Let's be honest:  how is that death going to really affect much throughout the Marvel Universe?  Maybe it's just me, but it seems like that was more about a look into the mind of the person who killed rather than who was actually killed.

Posted by victimblue

2 complaints in this video......First off, Give Sara a mike!...I can't hear what she's saying except for G-man. Its becoming a constant problem every week in unscripted. When i boost the volume to hear Sara talk then G-mans is super loud! SO PLEASE GIVE SARA A MIKE. 
Now for my other complaint...Sara is becoming sooo whiny lately its so annoying. If this is the case every week she should let G-man at it alone. She doesn't look like shes into the unscripted videos anymore.I notice her not focusing on the subject at hand and looking somewhere else. As far a the Book goes....it was pretty good. Gonna have to go with G-mans rating on this one.

Posted by Baddamdog

I think this was a set-up issue, the next one will be better....hopefully

Posted by wingster

The volume on this video was pretty hallow sounding?

Posted by Braxxis7

wow harsh i liked it  
babs needs to stop whining and expecting so much
Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon

who dies??  bullseye??

Posted by JacobClayton
@HT101 said:
" Is this that time of the month for Sara?"
Is it your time of the month to be offensive?
Posted by the_nightwalker
@JacobClayton: 
oohhh, good one.
Posted by DMC

So what if Captain Bucky, Iron Man and Thor were in this issue? I would agree if this took place somewhere else but they're in New York are they not?
I think it's pretty obvious that these 3 were in this issue just to discuss how this was going to be handled. Daredevil is Luke and Dans friend so it's up to them to take care of this, and that's that. We'll never see the Avengers Big 3 for the rest of the event.....hopefully.
 

Posted by amc26
@Violet-Eyed Dragon: yup
Posted by Quntumking

The idea of creating various limited series' based on a limited series, for a cross-over event seems silly. Marvel does about 50 or so book's a month!I do want to read the Shadowland mini-series and Dare-devil but that will probably be all for me. This does look like a promising storyline and i hope it lives up to the hype. I think (or at least hope ) Thor, Captain America and Ironman will have more to do with the end of the storyline than the beginning,maybe they will help take down the all-powerful bad guy. Also i hope Moon knight 's interaction with Dare-devil is interesting some of the art has looked awesome!

Posted by IrishX

Shadowland #1 was outstanding.

Posted by Comiclove5

I've recently decided I'm dropping everything from my pull list except X-Men, Batman, Brightest Day, and Ultimate Comics stuff, because of crossovers.
Posted by the_orange_crush

Gees, Babs is sure getting a lot of hate here......
 
Anyway, I'd give this a 2.5-3/5. My main gripe about this issue is the lack of interaction and dynamic between characters. I totally see why the Avengers have to be involved. As someone stated earlier, the Avengers are the top cops in Marvel and totally see Daredevil's actions as a huge threat, so they send in the people that know him best in Iron Fist and Luke Cage. 
 
But the dialogue between Cage/Fist and Daredevil was weak. They have a past together and all Cage/Fist did was just stand there and go “is he going to do this” and “what’s he going to do next,” to which Daredevil basically says “stay out of my way.”

The whole fight between Bullseye and Daredevil was also weak in terms of dialogue and interaction. I mean, I thought the fight was brief. And most importantly, there was a lack of emotion between the two. Isn’t Bullseye Daredevil’s worst enemy? You would think that there would be so much more interaction between them rather then DD breaking Bullseye’s arms then stabbing him immediately.

I realize that the whole story has to be looked at rather then just this single issue, but I just thought this issue was weak. I’ve been excited for this crossover event since it was announced, but this was a let down. I hope the future issues would rebound greatly from this. It does have potential, as Daredevil is becoming a much more villainous character and seeing how the other heroes react definitely captures my interest.

And is anyone else bothered by the amount of tie-ins and one-shots there are to this event? It’s too much IMO.

Posted by Bearded Justice

wow lets ahhhh lets take it easy on babs 
ha ha "hes got little hands!" 
oh man i was really lookin forward to this....eh im only gettin it for the moon knight anyway
Posted by ComicMan24

I agree with Babs, they should keep it contained. I mean, how many comic books can someone buy? I know they want to make money but they should think about the readers too.

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Posted by War Killer

I like most of the characters, like Daredevil, Spidey, Cage, Iron Fist, but what bugs me is how Marvel says that "After Siege, we'll stop doing all of these events for a while" crap, and it's not that I don't think this is an interesting story, I just hate that it's got so many freakin' comics that spin-off from the main book, it's annoying and unneeded, we should be able to just buy one little event book and just that one series, not having to buy all of these other books to understand what the heck's going on.

Posted by Vance Astro
@the_orange_crush said:
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Gees, Babs is sure getting a lot of hate here......
 
Anyway, I'd give this a 2.5-3/5. My main gripe about this issue is the lack of interaction and dynamic between characters. I totally see why the Avengers have to be involved. As someone stated earlier, the Avengers are the top cops in Marvel and totally see Daredevil's actions as a huge threat, so they send in the people that know him best in Iron Fist and Luke Cage. 
 
But the dialogue between Cage/Fist and Daredevil was weak. They have a past together and all Cage/Fist did was just stand there and go “is he going to do this” and “what’s he going to do next,” to which Daredevil basically says “stay out of my way.”

The whole fight between Bullseye and Daredevil was also weak in terms of dialogue and interaction. I mean, I thought the fight was brief. And most importantly, there was a lack of emotion between the two. Isn’t Bullseye Daredevil’s worst enemy? You would think that there would be so much more interaction between them rather then DD breaking Bullseye’s arms then stabbing him immediately.

I realize that the whole story has to be looked at rather then just this single issue, but I just thought this issue was weak. I’ve been excited for this crossover event since it was announced, but this was a let down. I hope the future issues would rebound greatly from this. It does have potential, as Daredevil is becoming a much more villainous character and seeing how the other heroes react definitely captures my interest.

And is anyone else bothered by the amount of tie-ins and one-shots there are to this event? It’s too much IMO.

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I disagree with most of this. 
I don't know what you were expecting from this first issue,especially seeing as how the ending was spoiled before the book even came out. 
Lack of interaction you say? The focus of the first issue was Daredevil killing Bullseye so why would the interaction between Iron Fist,Cage, and Daredevil be significant until the next issue where they would address Daredevil killing Bullseye? 
Also as far as their fight, Diggle was just setting up what usually happens between the Daredevil and Bullseye.The only reason Bullseye has ever been able to keep up with Daredevil in combat is because he was always willing to go where Daredevil wouldn't.So I  personally understood what he was going for when he had Daredevil completely dominate him in combat.If you've actually read any comics where they've fought before (not saying you haven't) Bullseye usually keeps himself in the fight with projectile weapons.He didn't have much of anything when Daredevil killed him. 
 
I don't know about everyone else but i'm not bothered by the amount of tie-ins.In fact I wish there were more.There are several characters who through storyline are linked to Daredevil that Marvel has just thrown in the background and hasn't given them much chance to develop any further.I like the fact the Colleen Wing is getting her own tie-in. I'm liking the fact that Misty Knight,Silver Sable & Shroud will be major players. I can't wait to see what role Ghost Rider and Moon Knight will play.
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Edited by The Mast

Can we let Daredevil readers, for better opinion or worse, review this next time?
 
No offense, but it seems that as soon as you venture outside of Marvel's main books, you don't know what you're talking about. There's actually so much in this comic that is important to Matt's character and where he's going.
 
The Daredevil/Bullseye fight was perfect, and if you understand the characters, you'd know why.
 
I mean, really. This is just bitterness that you don't know what's going on. There's no reason for The Avengers to be in there? A million ft tall Pagoda/Prison in Hell's Kitchen, with rumours that its guardian is into kidnapping and murder ISN'T reason for the PROTECTIVE TRINITY OF MARVEL to be involved? They saw it from the tower and then gave the nod for more suited heroes to keep a closer eye, as they are obviously busy. Jeez, people. Read.

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