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Posted by Astroknot

I think it depends mostly on story. in Wolverine it was in his character to be mysterious, and he became popular so years later they revealed and a better told origin.  Same with Hobgoblin, i don't think he was upposed to be revealed, but he got kind of popular that's why it took so long.
 
But with Red Hulk they teased in the beginning they were going to show who he is, and then strung it out too long. Like how some sitcoms try to stretch out that sexually tense relationship between main characters before they "do it" and the whole show goes downhill, you know what's going to eventually happen, you just wished it took a season, maybe season and a half, not three or four.

Posted by carnivalofsins00

i think that as long as the story is entertaining and doesnt get stale, i could put up with any amount of time.

Posted by dr.x

but I think it's was writters lazy, in this way take Gambit or Death Stoke , I think if you have charcter that has little background to write then it's easier to just go on in the without using any back ground story , also what would happen if charcter was flop .
Edited by vacseen

I think it depends on the story and the writter really. If its a intriguing story and its well written then time dosn't matte as long as the charcter is intertaing. look at joker, one of the more famous villains and we still don't know who he is and people still enjoy him. But now days with technology the way it is people are spoiled, if they don't get what they want when they want it they get all hot and bothered. Some people need to get over themselves 

Edited by ArtisticNeedham

I think people upset because the story sort of centered around "Who is the Red Hulk?"  And made you feel like they were going to answer that quickly.  I didn't notice it until I guess issue 6, where it ends with the Hulk fighting Red Hulk and at the end of the comic it said "The End."  If they were going to make the point of the issue who is the Red Hulk, then don't say "The End" without revealing who he was.
Then the comic said something about, if you focus too much on who the Red Hulk is you will miss the real story, and sort of felt like it was changing to theme of the comic because they didn't want people to be saying every issue "Who is the Red Hulk?"
I don't know if I would have really thought about it if they didn't do those two things.
 
In the case of Wolverine, it was almost like they didn't know what to do with him.  And some writers would hint at their own idea, like Claremont's Sabortooth being Wolverine's father.  But it was like they weren't sure what to do, so they stayed away from revealing everything.  And left it to the readers to wonder and imagine in their own heads.   His original idea was to have him be a wolverine turned into a human, his claws were part of his gloves.  I don't know why they didn't reveal that right away. but they let him go without his backstory for years, letting writers add to it here and there.  But it felt like no one really knew what to do with him because the hype was getting bigger and bigger.
That the problem with having a mystery in a comic, the hype becomes bigger and bigger and if you wait too long the hype becomes too big, and nothing you can do will match what the readers are expecting.
And part of it becomes like the Giligans Island thing, you want them off the island but then that would end the show.  You want them to reveal Wolverine's origins and past, but then once they do its told and you loose the mystery, but part of the mystery is that you want it solved.
 
I think part of the point of the Hobgoblin wasn't who he was, but the fact that Peter didn't know.  Sort of like the original Green Goblin idea.  Peter had no clue who this guy was.  He could be anyone Peter passed on the streets.  So instead of the whole theme of the character being "Who is he?"  It was that he was a mystery.  Plus it could have helped that he wasn't in every issue for 14 years.  the misleading covers would have bugged me though.  But I like the idea of a character, a villain, having decoys.

Posted by savri

I have been collecting since 1981, and I strongly believe   carnivalofsins00 when he wrote "  i think that as long as the story is entertaining and doesnt get stale, i could put up with any amount of time." 
Today, with younger collectors, they come from a society I like to call the "Microwave society", people want results now! and after the news is spread of one thing, they move on to the next target. This is where the comics are chaffed from the garbage. This might be the reason why, now days their are so many titles and back in the 80's you had your one spin rack in a Plaid Pantry or 7 11.  
Just because there more, does not mean they are better in 2010.

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Posted by Deadman Wade

I agree with the, good story make me wait as long as you want philosophy. Some characters remain great because of there mystery behind them. Some people I associate with tell me they wish Wolverine had never gotten his background story told or even waited many years still to come.  
   

Posted by Deadman Wade
@dr.x said:

"but I think it's was writters lazy, in this way take Gambit or Death Stoke , I think if you have charcter that has little background to write then it's easier to just go on in the without using any back ground story , also what would happen if charcter was flop . "


Gambit's background is pretty defined and so is his future, as the Witness from his possession of the Momentary Princess and the work done with his company Stark/Fujikawa, and being a clone of Mister Sinister with the DNA from the Summers and Grey family mixed in without Apocalypse's alien DNA in the mix and being taken from Sinister by Apocalypse and then later adopted by Jean-Luc LeBeau after being in a gang and trained to be a thief and more about his powers... Sorry, I know this isn't a gambit thread.       
Posted by ateygheyev

(Looks outside window at the gray sky and the tree with the brown, crumpled leaves and sighs) 
 
"What is time but an illusion..."

Posted by Dr. Maxwell

I think the Internet and message boards are the reason why people are so impatient, they can access things so much faster than you could 20 years ago so most people dont want to wait around for the reveal. This is why I love Grant Morrison, it takes years to tell the complete story, and I love eating it up and speculating over it

Posted by Raul_The_Man

I trully enjoy the mysteries in comics. I will say that is one of the most enjoyable part of reading comics. I loved the whole mysterious past of Wolverine and how it felt that once they "told" you what the story was that it could still be some misterous fake memory. I mean, what is coming up next in comics is why we read them, right? That's why we come back after the to be continued. I think maybe now it is newer generation of readers and they are expecting answers so much faster, and maybe it was because they came in at the tail end of the revealing of the characters you mentioned, so don't understand that it can take many many years for a something like identities to be revealed or origins to be told.