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Posted by cattlebattle

I want Steve back

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Posted by Secret Identity

Bucky works as Cap as long as Steve is on the secret avengers and the like. But i agree, i wish bucky wasnt treated like an idiot in The avengers book

Posted by doordoor123

A VIDEO! WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!
To be honest im a huge fan of progression so im fine with Bucky as cap. :P

Posted by Hamz

I'm not a fan of Captain America in general, so I'm not too bothered who holds the shield and mantle of the character.
 
That being said I'd still love to see Bucky be outfitted in an American Son style of armour. I really don't get why he persists in wearing spandex when a perfectly good set of body armour could be constructed by Stark or Richards.

Edited by dvorak

I like Steve doing his own thing. It would be cool if he had a codename or something though. It's cool that right now his super power is his ultimate leadership skills. That's not something you see respected a lot in comics.
 
I got to be honest though, I wish it was Frank Castle that became Cap. I mean Winter Soldier and The Punisher are on about equally, morally dubious grounds anyway, right?

Posted by dan1509

How long did it take you to do this G-Man? its epic dont get me wrong but there's a lot of running and stuff goin on :P
 
I fink Bucky should have a different mantle, but Captain America is more of a symbol, just as much the fact that theres actually a person behind that symbol. I loved Bucky as winter soldier, they shoulda done more with that

Edited by Kell1775

I am just afraid Marvel will do something stupid with Bucky as the movie looms, like turn him into a villian Steve has to take down so that he is forced to reclaim the mantle and they can sell books.
Posted by Baddamdog

Coolvideo dude, all your off my minds should be done in videos!!

Posted by Mr. Kamikaze

I was never a fan of Captain America, but I did understand his importance and was a bit skeptical at first, admittedly, about whether or not it was a good idea to hand the title to someone else. But when he first showed up, I found myself liking him.  
 
I would still like Steve Rogers back, but I think Bucky Cap is working for me for the time being. I do agree the fact he is treated and portrayed like some novice is a bit ridiculous, but the idea of progression in giving the shield to someone else is good. So for now, Bucky Cap stays.

Posted by DannoMan

I like Steve better, but Bucky fits more than anyone else could.

Posted by G-Man
@dan1509: Probably like ten mins to shoot. Editing is another thing. I just wanted an excuse to film in my old "lair" on last time.
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Posted by Secret Identity

I think Steve's new codename should be American Shield. 

Posted by Crom-Cruach

Steve is the only Captain America, Bucky is just his former sidekick prancing around in a costume he was never worthy to wear.

Posted by MadripoorEconomy

I think Bucky Cap is great - I'm really digging the Captain America stories right now.  I'd be disappointed if Steve returned from the "dead" and just jumped up and acted as if nothing had happened.  And with the Winter Soldier stuff just about to be unearthed to the American public Bucky Cap is more exciting then ever.  Will Steve become cap again?  Undoubtedly.  But I'm enjoying the Bucky Cap ride for now (waaayy better then John Walker).

Posted by carnivalofsins00

please, leave Bucky as Cap for as long as possible. Im enjoying it and im enjoying Steve as he is now. And i never thought about Steve comic back as Cap for the time the movies out. lol.

Posted by Comiclove5

I pefer Bucky as Cap because superheroes are supposed to be legacy character and as they get older the Mantle should be passed down.
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@dvorak said:

" I like Steve doing his own thing. It would be cool if he had a codename or something though. It's cool that right now his super power is his ultimate leadership skills. That's not something you see respected a lot in comics. I got to be honest though, I wish it was Frank Castle that became Cap. I mean Winter Soldier and The Punisher are on about equally, morally dubious grounds anyway, right? "

read Ultimate Avengers 2 lol
 
@Kell1775 said:

" I am just afraid Marvel will do something stupid with Bucky as the movie looms, like turn him into a cillian Steve has to take down so that he is forced to reclaim the mantle and they can sell books. "


Im sure theyll just but Bucky in a coma or something. LOL
Or hell die. Well see.
OR Marvel will just have special flashback issues.
 
To be honest id like Bucky to hold the title for 15 years. Like the Flash. People grew up with Wally West as the flash, but the first "real" modern flash was Barry Allen.
Posted by Arkham Lunatic

Bucky lacks Steve Rogers charisma and integrity. Steve lifts spirits just being around him, they want to make him proud. Steve Rogers is Captain America.
Posted by Freddy.Mercurial

g-man, u finally see the light!  GIVE BUCKY A CHANCE!  We need a new Cap, who better represents the American ideal/climate of the 21st century ("even if he is from the same century as Steve"-good one G-man)...  I just hope they don't put Steve back in the mantle when the flick comes out...  As i said before, i can see Bucky-Steve & even Nick Fury pulling a 3-way switch at some point...  WAIT, did i just say Bucky-Steve-Fury & 3-way in the same sentence???  :/

Posted by The Devil Tiger

Bucky is cool. 
 
I didn't like the gun thing, but Bucky is cool.
Posted by ironshadow

When the movie comes out Steve will be Captain America again but I hope they promote Buck to colonel, Colonel America.

Posted by Luthorcrow

Steve. In my view Bucky is still dead and I don't buy or dig the recon story line. Some of the crazy stuff Marvel has done recently is just lazy.  Another prime example is the whole Gwen Stacy/Green Goblin thing. They took one of the pivotal moments in Marvel history and took a big fat dump on it.
 
Buck is dead. Bring Steve back. Kill the retcon silliness.

Posted by ballsnbayonets

i like how he shootz dudes with a GUN!

Posted by ILuvMsMarvel

The Bucky Stops Here.

Posted by Midnight Monk

I like Bucky as Cap, really digging what happening in Captain America right now but not the Avenger where he acts more background than anything. I won't lie Bucky is not Steve, he different but that what makes him great is that his willing to do that necessary and not just whats needed. If Steve just comes back and decides "Hey I wanna be Cap again, you go do whatever" it'd kinda be little what was great about "Who Will Wield The Shield"

Posted by Gambit1024

Bucky deserves to carry the shield. I'd be happy if he were Cap for years to come. He's doing a good job.  
 
This doesn't mean I wouldn't be open to Steve returning to the star spangled tights though ;)

Posted by HaloKing343

I personally love Bucky as Cap and don't want them to switch that up. I prefer it actually.
Posted by shawn87

good point at the end. Steve probably will be back around the time the movie comes out

Posted by Brickabrack

No I want Steve back as Captain America. Grrr 
 
Bucky is cool but he should be Bucky, not another Cap.
Edited by Blackestnight
@G-Man:  The way I read avengers, Bucky did know who he was, he just hadn't read those intel reports, meaning just the most new and recent information. And that was because of so many other things happening. It also shows that Steve was the best, by making Bucky have some error on strategic means, fightingwise though Bucky has proven himself, and not being above guns helps him too. 
 
I see a lot of copying going back and forth with captian america and batman, traveling through time, jr trying to take the shield/cowl apprentices using guns... everyone wanting the originals back. 
Posted by ChaosAgent


I like Bucky...but I don't like his methods. The way he chooses to do things doesn't really sit well with me as something 'Captain America' would do.  
 
Then again, I'm not really a Cap fan. I like him, but I only know the trivial things that at least everyone knows.  

Or maybe I'm harsher on Bucky being Cap because it's like how I feel about Dick being Batman. I don't think either of them should be their mentor's successor. Bucky was fine as Winter Soldier. Just as Dick was fine as Nightwing.

Posted by Dr. Maxwell

I like them both, Bucky deserves his time to shine, Brubaker hands down does the best writing for both characters
Posted by Moomin123
@Crom-Cruach said:
"Steve is the only Captain America, Bucky is just his former sidekick prancing around in a costume he was never worthy to wear."

I feel the same way, but Bucky IS Cap's sidekick so he does deserve the shield more than anyone else.
Posted by Aspenite

I like them both...can´t there be two Captain Americas?

Posted by pinchpaker29

I miss the winter soldier... :(

Posted by Whitley

I really have a problem with Captain America using a gun. One of the great things (and underrated) about the Steve Rogers Captain America is that was so awesome as a fighter he did feel a need to have a gun. His shield was/is mostly a defensive weapon. So  Steve Rogers Cap had to be constantly training (not saying that Bucky isn't doing that) and thinking on the battlefield several steps ahead of his enemy.  Very few people can do that. That is why Thor would follow Rogers anywhere....Thor....think about that for a second. Can't see Thor doing that with Bucky Cap. 
 
Posted by Retro_Metro
@Aspenite said:
" I like them both...can´t there be two Captain Americas? "
Maybe one in one reality and the other in an alternate reality.
Posted by dr.x

here is thought  whearther Bucky stay as Cap dose not have to do  anything with Steve , but  rather with Bruce  Wayen  and Dick Grayson Staying as Batman , because we all know  that is  real reson here .
Posted by leokearon

G-Man you're right Steve will be back as Cap the minute the movie comes out. Still I hope Bucky continues being a hero, maybe he could become the Captain

Posted by Kid_Zombie

Bucky needs to stay as CAP!!
I love Stevew and all but I would like something in the comics thats a drastic change, stay for once. He is an awesome character and has proven many times he deserves the title. I like the way Steve is now, being the new nick Fury

Posted by the_fallen11

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes  one thousand times yes!! Bucky is an amazing Cap. I also would be okay with two caps.

Posted by Citizen 14

Yes. I believe he does.

Posted by ofaaron
@Whitley: 
 
I agree that is what is so great about Steve Rogers, but Bucky is not Steve Rogers, and could never be as good of a Captain America if he tried to do it the same way as Steve. Both are just men, no super powers, but Steve's super soldier serum certainly counts for something. 
 
I admit that I hated that Cap used a gun when I first heard about it, because of the same reasons, but after hearing the circumstances I'm fine with it. We all know its temporary anyways.
Posted by Pez85

Honestly, I'd prefer Steve taking the Captain America identity back. Not that Bucky is a poor choice, he's really come into his own as Cap, but because he made a better Winter Soldier. As Bucky's point out, he's a soldier, he's trained to kill. How cool would it be to see Winter Soldier on the Secret Avengers team? I say put Steve back in the role he was made for, and let Bucky get down and dirty.

Posted by Vance Astro

If they take the mantle away from Bucky they might as well kill him because he's worthless without it.I'm sick and tired of companies making all of these sidekicks and "xerox's" and then just throwing them down the drain.If you don't plan on doing anything with the character than just kill them.With that said I like Bucky as Captain America.It doesn't matter if he will never be as good as Steve.Not that he very well couldn't be. The sidekick taking the mantle is something that needs to happen to alot more heroes.Being someone who has been reading comics for over a decade, the same old characters get boring.I'm glad Steve is back I always liked him as a character but now he needs to play the background like Nick Fury and give it a rest.

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Posted by ComicMan24
@Vance Astro said:
" If they take the mantle away from Bucky they might as well kill him because he's worthless without it.I'm sick and tired of companies making all of these sidekicks and "xerox's" and then just throwing them down the drain.If you don't plan on doing anything with the character than just kill them.With that said I like Bucky as Captain America.It doesn't matter if he will never be as good as Steve.Not that he very well couldn't be. The sidekick taking the mantle is something that needs to happen to alot more heroes.Being someone who has been reading comics for over a decade, the same old characters get boring.I'm glad Steve is back I always liked him as a character but now he needs to play the background like Nick Fury and give it a rest. "
I agree with that.
Edited by waruikumo

BENDIS is writing Bucky like an idiot.  Like some dumb jock basically, not the hard boiled espionage agent that Brubaker has developed him into.  Which i don't get at all, and as much as a love JR JR's art, I will def drop "Avengers" if that characterization continues to be so OFF.   
 
Ok maybe I'm being a Whiney comic book geek, but I have really dug Brubaker's Cap stuff (Bucky Cap).  And its really REALLY distracting when Bendis writes a scene where some 3rd rate character like Maria Hill condescends to Bucky, REALLY really, Bucky doesn't read the brief files given to him?  REALLY?  That sorta moment was SOOOO out of character after the whole Rebirth/Search for Cap stuff.  WEAK! 
 
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Posted by Vance Astro
@Pez85 said:
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Honestly, I'd prefer Steve taking the Captain America identity back. Not that Bucky is a poor choice, he's really come into his own as Cap, but because he made a better Winter Soldier. As Bucky's point out, he's a soldier, he's trained to kill. How cool would it be to see Winter Soldier on the Secret Avengers team? I say put Steve back in the role he was made for, and let Bucky get down and dirty.

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That's what makes Bucky a good Cap..because he's not Steve Rogers and because he was technically a bad guy at one point.He has his own inner conflict aside from all the WWII stuff.
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Posted by sora_thekey

I don't mind Bucky as Cap... To be honest the whole thing about not knowing Kang, that's just Bendis' writing... He's smarter than that!
 
You're right for movie reasons they will end up putting Steve Rogers under the A mask...
 
Is this your goodbye to the "lair"? You aren't coming back? How big is the new office?
Wait! What about the Bat-Signal? and the Golden Monkeys? That's where the Pinchuk Take-Over took place! and where all that mail was sent to... Where Babs was dumped during Valentine's and where Red LAMP filmed himself going "# 2"... 
I'm feeling Nostalgic... and I've never even been there... (< Pretty Sad! :P)

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Posted by Vance Astro
@waruikumo said:
" BENDIS is writing Bucky like an idiot.  Like some dumb jock basically, not the hard boiled espionage agent that Brubaker has developed him into.  Which i don't get at all, and as much as a love JR JR's art, I will def drop "Avengers" if that characterization continues to be so OFF.    Ok maybe I'm being a Whiney comic book geek, but I have really dug Brubaker's Cap stuff (Bucky Cap).  And its really REALLY distracting when Bendis writes a scene where some 3rd rate character like Maria Hill condescends to Bucky, REALLY really, Bucky doesn't read the brief files given to him?  REALLY?  That sorta moment was SOOOO out of character after the whole Rebirth/Search for Cap stuff.  WEAK!  END rant. "
Well good thing Bendis isn't the only person writing for the character.
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