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Posted by HeckTate

It can't be reiterated enough: no one invites sexual harassment.

Very difficult topic to handle, but I think you did an admirable job of it without getting carried away. I wish more people took the "be respectful" advice into consideration for all areas of their lives, certainly in this.

Posted by iceslick

@g_man: Thank you Tony for discussing this topic. I greatly appreciated. Sadly, it isn't just harassment that goes on, it's also criticism too. Insert harsh comment about Two-Face's being on wrong side of the face here. I don't think people take into a consideration that maybe the cosplayer did realize he made the mistake and maybe the make-up couldn't be rubbed off in a short period of time (in-which they never do, I had that experience with my Darth Maul costume, I had to stay with red and black face paint for 4 to 5 days of school) so he had to make do with what's best is to continue the great details on the wrong side of face. I don't think what people realize is that we are all human and mistakes do happen and we gotta do what makes best of it.

Also, I did experience about people inappropriately taking pictures without asking even from professional photographers in NYCC this year. Me and my boyfriend wasn't even ready because we had just enter the building and we had to get stuff ready for security to check on our equipment. So out of nowhere as my boyfriend is taking out his toy gun. The professional photographer takes a big flash in front of our faces. It was totally rude for me and even for the security that's try to do their jobs. They couldn't be respectful and wait until after we're done with security?! I guess not. We didn't say anything. But security had to yell "can you please wait to take a picture?" The photographer just ignored and walked away. It was just disrespectful. And I don't think we can get rid of this from happening forever because bad things happen everywhere. So, I guess we just have to live with.

Posted by Mrgreenlantern

ugh please keep in mind nobody's body is to be touched except your own ;)

Edited by TheManInTheShoe

Stuff? What stuff can you see...oh wait.

Edit: btw, I agree with everything you are saying. And that Jean Grey cosplayer did a great job on her costume.

Edited by Mrgreenlantern

its a tricky subject to speak about without having someone get upset I think you did a good job Tony!

edit: uhhh feels weird calling you tony when we're not on personal terms so GOOD JOB G-MAN! =p

Posted by mattwing87

I've never heard of this problem until now but I am not shocked about it. I am a fan of a lot of female cosplayers on facebook and they seem to post a lot about how most people think they cosplay to get attention from guys. I don't think that is true at all. These girl cosplayers on facebook are artistic and creative and just want to share their passions with more than their friends and family.

Posted by SynCig

Agree with all points made. Thank you for spending the time to discuss this topic. There is no circumstance where harassment or disrespectful behavior is appropriate. This is a very minor aspect of this because the victims are far and away the most important part of this subject but it also makes all convention goers look bad. There is a reason that a negative stigma is attached to geek culture and this is certainly a huge part of it.

Edited by The_Vein

Anyone who blames a woman dressing in revealing clothing for being harassed or worse is the absolute worst kind of person. Even if a woman is walking through a place stark naked she shouldn't be touched or stared at. People need to grow up.

Edited by shackle

@the_vein said:

Anyone who blames a woman dressing in revealing clothing for being harassed or worse is the absolute worst kind of person. Even if a woman is walking through a place stark naked she shouldn't be touched or stared at. People need to grow up.

If a woman, or man, is walking around naked, they're going to be stared at. Even in the more relaxed attitudes of many European countries, naked is still naked; it's going to draw attention.

Posted by explodingpineapple

@shackle said:

@the_vein said:

Anyone who blames a woman dressing in revealing clothing for being harassed or worse is the absolute worst kind of person. Even if a woman is walking through a place stark naked she shouldn't be touched or stared at. People need to grow up.

If a woman, or man, is walking around naked, they're going to be stared at. Even in the more relaxed attitudes of many European countries, naked is still naked; it's going to draw attention.

They would also probably get arrested.

Posted by kantrip

Great thoughts on this @g_man. This was a topic of much discussion at Geek Girl Con this past weekend. There were at least 3 panels on harassment regarding Cosplay, Online Interaction, Gaming, and even within STEM Careers. This is definitely something where everyone needs to just practice what their parents taught them and be decent folk.

Edited by Wilbertus

I think it is great you brought this up. I think the vast majority of people are respectful and understand the ethcis you lay out in the video. For those who go wrong, I have some idea where it might come from. This is just speculation, I don't mean to judge or anything, but I think that for a lot of people their comic/"geek" stuff is closely related to the internet (it definitely is for me). And as you mentioned in the video, many people feel they can say anything on the internet. This might make it hard to (unconciously) not associate the two for some people. So when they walk around at a convention and are surrounded by comics stuff they feel tempted to speak their mind and be demeaning of things they don't like.

By the way, I just wanted to say that I don't really agree with "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" per se. That would kind of defeat the purpose of freedom of speech. However, in regard to comics, conventions and the issue of harassment specifically, I definitely think people should stick to this. Although, some positive feedback might be nice for starting cosplayers...

Posted by Mezmero

Interesting topic. It's unfortunate that stuff like this still happens though I typically don't attend cons so I wouldn't really know. One thing I always wonder about is when do cosplayers find the time to even read comics. The ones with really elaborate attire probably spend most of their free time making costumes. I even know a dude at my work that spends a lot of his time making new costumes for himself and his wife but doesn't really read much current stuff. So at one point does a fan like a character design more than the actual character or story? That always weirds me out personally.

Posted by TOASTme69

Lucky for me I only had really one uncomfortable situation when I was cosplaying. It was WAY back in the beginning of my cosplay 'adventures' I was dressed as a gothic lolita maid, really wasn't ready to tackle making an actual character yet. I was talking to some friends when their shirtless guy ran over and hugged me from behind. His friends were laughing and taking pictures while he picked me up and spun me around. Eventually I managed to pull away and he said they just really liked my outfit but I knew it wasn't totally innocent. Anyway, I pretty much just moved on and enjoyed the rest of my day. When females (and males) cosplay we do take that risk of having attention from someone we might not want attention from. Its a manner of just keeping yourself safe and staying aware. ^.^ Though I hope this doesn't scare any future cosplayers away, it really is a tone of fun!

Posted by tupiaz

@iceslick said:

@g_man: Thank you Tony for discussing this topic. I greatly appreciated. Sadly, it isn't just harassment that goes on, it's also criticism too. Insert harsh comment about Two-Face's being on wrong side of the face here. I don't think people take into a consideration that maybe the cosplayer did realize he made the mistake and maybe the make-up couldn't be rubbed off in a short period of time (in-which they never do, I had that experience with my Darth Maul costume, I had to stay with red and black face paint for 4 to 5 days of school) so he had to make do with what's best is to continue the great details on the wrong side of face. I don't think what people realize is that we are all human and mistakes do happen and we gotta do what makes best of it.

Also, I did experience about people inappropriately taking pictures without asking even from professional photographers in NYCC this year. Me and my boyfriend wasn't even ready because we had just enter the building and we had to get stuff ready for security to check on our equipment. So out of nowhere as my boyfriend is taking out his toy gun. The professional photographer takes a big flash in front of our faces. It was totally rude for me and even for the security that's try to do their jobs. They couldn't be respectful and wait until after we're done with security?! I guess not. We didn't say anything. But security had to yell "can you please wait to take a picture?" The photographer just ignored and walked away. It was just disrespectful. And I don't think we can get rid of this from happening forever because bad things happen everywhere. So, I guess we just have to live with.

Harsh comment? Not really I just said I thought it was less cool. I didn't went up to the man and said. "You are an idiot you have switch sides you should not do cosplay." Don't compare my comment to harassment it is not. If you are going to comment on my view then do it directly instead of sneaking it in where I don't necessary see it. If I saw him on a convention I wouldn't say anything to the guy. No need for it. However in a topic that has pictures of cosplay in it I think it is fair to mention it.

I think there is one important point to this subject. People underage shouldn't be dressing up in a provocative way. The parents should do something to protect their children against people that misunderstand their look and creeps. Second the intention of harassment is important. Now the comic book world is not know for having a lot of Don Juans so if the comment was meant to be a pick up line but ended up totally wrong then people shouldn't get upset and instead take it as a compliment (even if it is socially off). When that said people should off cause not attack people verbally, give sexist remarks nor taking pictures without asking.

Edited by iceslick

@tupiaz: I didn't say your comment was harassment. I said it was harsh criticism. And last time I did reply directly. But the comment got the "blank" error as usual and I didn't want to type the whole reply again.

Posted by tupiaz

@iceslick: I really have a hard time understanding how saying that making a mistake is harsh criticism. I didn't used any vulgar language nor did I attack the man personally.

Edited by Rico_Atlas

Everything that need be said has been said. Good job Tony, and be proud when you stand on your soapbox. Women are people like anyone else in this world, some scumbags as Tony put it forget this FACT. You should not do anything or say anything to a female that is a complete stranger to you at an event that everyone has gone to in order to celebrate comics, and treat them any differently then you would treat your own sister. Treat her with respect! Its not hard to do and it is very enjoyable to know that she feels good and secure, and you helped that effect by being polite and respectful. Unless you are some crazy scumbag then please! Just stay home. We don't really want your kind at our events.

Its sad that in this day and age some people still do not know how to behave themselves and act their age. I mean if this was a case of a prepubescent youngster acting like an idiot. Well then okay that is a part of coming to age, go tell his parents and let them deal with it. But if it is a men or women that are considered at least by their age as adults, then they should be held accountable for their actions.

I mean if you decide to act human around other humans that should be fine, just try to be polite. I mean act with tact, its not like we are at a dance club, its not like we go to a comic con to get picked up. Here is an idea which is pretty simple and easy to apply. Put yourself in her/his shoes. Try to imagine if you were them and then treat them how you would want to be treated.

Posted by iceslick

@tupiaz: It's because you just complained the mistake in detail and didn't give a compliment for something at least afterwards.

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Edited by Malonius

What kind of loser nerd goes to a comic convention to be a creepy bully?

Posted by PunyParker

If a person gets bullied in his personal life,and he goes to cons finds women and forces himself to them (metaphorically) he is just plain STUPID,and has an unbalanced personallity.......remember the horrible insident with the girl dressed as Black Cat a couple o' yrs ago?!

And "you're dressed like that,you ask for it" is a stupid arguement.....the person is dressed like a comicbook character.....grow up.

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Posted by PunyParker

@malonius said:

What kind of loser nerd goes to a comic convention to be a creepy bully?

Apparently it's a reaction to the bullying he gets in his life......

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Posted by MythicH3RO

The main thing is we got to take care of are cosplay girls fo show. :)

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