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    #1  Edited By Silkcuts

    It is no secret some Vertigo Characters are locked way and haven't been back to the DCU in many many years.  Some have comeback like Animal and Doom Patrol.  But a Character like Swamp Thing, he comic doesn't survive in Vertigo anymore and he is not used there.  Who the DCU fans like Alec back?  or Keep Alec in Vertigo, give the DCU a new Swamp Thing?
     
    Other characters locked away, Black Orchid, Tim Hunter, The Un-Men, Johnny Double, Tefe' and Abby Holland, and if there is more please add to the list.
     
    At least Madame Xanadu has interactions with the DCU and her book shows that a Vertigo book can be young adult/teenish aged readers.  The current Zatanna book I think has shown more skin then the Madame Xanadu series.
     
    And a guy like John Constantine, could he cross-over to the DCU to be the bringer of bad omen like he did when Alan Moore was writing Swamp Thing?  If so, would you de-age him or keep him old and scared?

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    #2  Edited By Crom-Cruach

    keep him old and scarred. That's the prick Constantine we know and love. Incidentally I think Vertigo characters should be kept from the DCU as it can ruin their themes by bringing dynamics that aren't part of what their characters are about.

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    #3  Edited By Caligula

    the only Vertigo character I think that can enter the DCU, and not be tarnished is Swamp Thing.

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    #6  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost said:
    " @Silkcuts: as for adding more to the list there is basically the entire cast of The Sandman including my favorite character Lucifer  there is Unknown Soldier, Shade the Changing Man, Human Target (who was ruined with his return to DC this year), Wesley Dodds, etc. "
    completely agree. with this. DC absolutely thrashed Chance. and I like DC, but not as much as I like Vertigo.
     
    also What do you think of Swamp Thing, I believe he would mesh well in the DCU, without being ruined.
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    #7  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @Caligula said:
    " also What do you think of Swamp Thing, I believe he would mesh well in the DCU, without being ruined. "
    He appeared in the DC 1985 mega-arc, "Crisis on infinite Earths" but I think his mission and his storyline wouldn't fit very well in the grand scale of DCU events.
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    #8  Edited By Caligula
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " @Caligula said:
    " also What do you think of Swamp Thing, I believe he would mesh well in the DCU, without being ruined. "
    He appeared in the DC 1985 mega-arc, "Crisis on infinite Earths" but I think his mission and his storyline wouldn't fit very well in the grand scale of DCU events. "
    I Know he has been there in DC before. but I'm talking about possibly being a major part of the DCU. I'm a pretty big Swamp Thing fan. so I know he was in DC a few times. but i just feel out of all of the Vertigo Characters, he would be the most likely to get placed in the DCU, without ruining his character.
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    #9  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @Caligula said:
    " , he would be the most likely to get placed in the DCU, without ruining his character. "
    I don't think so, his whole theme of the power of nature, the mystical symbiosis he has with the earth and the events that happened in the series. In my opinion at least, could not have transpired like they had if this were happening the the DCU.
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    #10  Edited By Rokuakai

    I agree bring back Swamp Thing he is awesome

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    #11  Edited By Caligula
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " @Caligula said:
    " , he would be the most likely to get placed in the DCU, without ruining his character. "
    I don't think so, his whole theme of the power of nature, the mystical symbiosis he has with the earth and the events that happened in the series. In my opinion at least, could not have transpired like they had if this were happening the the DCU. "
    I disagree, but we shall leave it at that.
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    #12  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @Caligula said:
    I disagree, but we shall leave it at that. "
    cool, let's agree to disagree.
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    #14  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @aztek the lost: solid argument there. I guess it's just my preference kicking in when I think Swamp Thing should remain a Vertigo venture.
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    #15  Edited By Caligula
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " @aztek the lost: solid argument there. I guess it's just my preference kicking in when I think Swamp Thing should remain a Vertigo venture. "
    I believe he should too. but I was stating that out all the characters in Vertigo, he would be the easiest to move to DC.
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    #16  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost: damn man, you are like in my brain. The Show and DC's run on Target. is balls.
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    #19  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost said:
    " @Caligula said:
    " @aztek the lost: damn man, you are like in my brain. The Show and DC's run on Target. is balls. "
    (insert that cliche phrase about superior-minded individuals and their hive-like properties)  speaking of other characters DC decided to slap Vertigo readers in the face with: what the effing Hell was up with bringing Wesley Dodds as a Black Lantern only to let him die again? seriously, I was unamused...then again I didn't read the issue maybe it was stellar stuff but I highly doubt it...I didn't want Dodds to just be another pawn in a big arc "
    WAIT A MINUTE!!!
    the Killer was in Blackest Night. and I missed this, what issue is he in. good sir?
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    #21  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost: oh nevermind, I was thing of Wesley Gibson. sorry for the confusion.
    yeah I read Blackest Night JSA, and Dodds was kind of wasted. but im not a huge fan of him.
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    #23  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost: Much agreed on Xanadu.
     
    and when you have completed the Sandman books, let me know what you thought overall. and tell me if I should get them or not.
    I trust your judgement, and i love all things Vertigo so.
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    #25  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost said:

    " @Caligula: I'll be sure to let you know, one reason I try and read everything Vertigo is so I can properly recommend anything to someone who's interested because I know you're not going to find much discussion about something like Sandman Mystery Theatre or Scalped around here. Which is a pity, if you look in the Vertigo board you'll see several failed attempts of mine to trigger Vertigo discussion (I'm VNU btw). "

    I hear you on that. and Man Scalped is Awesome. I have only read the first arc but. i plan on getting the entire series when I have the money.
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    #27  Edited By Caligula
    @aztek the lost said:
    " @Caligula said:
    " @aztek the lost said:

    " @Caligula: I'll be sure to let you know, one reason I try and read everything Vertigo is so I can properly recommend anything to someone who's interested because I know you're not going to find much discussion about something like Sandman Mystery Theatre or Scalped around here. Which is a pity, if you look in the Vertigo board you'll see several failed attempts of mine to trigger Vertigo discussion (I'm VNU btw). "

    I hear you on that. and Man Scalped is Awesome. I have only read the first arc but. i plan on getting the entire series when I have the money. "
    I won't spoil anything for you since you're already hooked but you are going to love what's to come...Casino Boogie, Dead Mothers, The Gravel in Your Guts, High Lonesome, The Gnawing, heck, it's all epic...I just love how he does the different character perspectives and establishes an entire world...plus, the violence never hurts :P "
    oh yeah it's awesome so far.
    and I find even more awesome that I am, half Native American myself (Apache). Red Crow is a great character.
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    #29  Edited By Theodore

    It'd be fun to see what Constantine would have thought about Blackest Night. I think Swamp Thing should come back to DCU.

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