Harry Osborn is Venom

#1 Posted by OptimusPrime_700 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

On the next episode of Ultimate Spider-Man which is the show that a lot of you don't like, Harry Osborn will be Venom.I know most of you including myself would have liked it better if they had introduced Eddie Brock. and make him Venom instead. Well sadly I think they are not going to introduced Eddie Brock, because of The Venom Movie that is being made, there is no room for him in the show, or is Marvel trying to take a new direction on Venom seeing how we already saw Eddie Brock as Venom in Spectacular Spider-Man and The 90's cartoon. These are the possible reasons why they are not going to introduce Eddie Brock. This means that they had replaced Eddie Brock with Harry Osborn seeing how Harry Osborn became Peter Parker's childhood friend instead of it being Eddie Brock who should have gotten that role such like he did in the Ultimate Universe before becoming Venom. Although this shouldn't be a surprise seeing how at the beginning of the episode"Venom" Harry Osborn felt left out by Peter Parker, because of his new friends. He does apologized to Peter Parker for being a jerk and not trusting him anyone more at the end of the episode though and has became Peter Parker's friend again, but imagine what his reaction will be when he finds out that Peter Parker and his friends are super heroes and they work for S.H.I.E.L.D. and they never told him. If I was Spider-Man I would leave New York City and never show my face again lol. What do you think about Harry Osborn being Venom? Do you like this idea or do you think they should have introduced Eddie Brock some how and made him Venom instead?

#2 Posted by noj (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

The Venom episode was just plain horrible. Its what convinced me to drop the series. They absolutely BUTCHERED Venom and his origin story. Its just shameful.

#3 Posted by Replicant0658 (86 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, first off, I can't stress enough how much I dislike Ultimate Spiderman, sure it has a good premise but ultimately fails to deliver on ALL counts and makes me wonder why they even cancelled Spectacular Spiderman in the first place if they were just gunna replace it with this crap? That being said, onto the topic at hand: Venom. The idea of Harry Osborn as Venom just seems rediculous to me, not because I'm married to the Eddie Brock version (although that IS my favorite incarnation) but simply because it just doesn't make sense to me. Harry Osborn has always been a part of the goblin legacy in my eyes, its just where he belongs. If he was going to become a Spidey villain it would have to be the green goblin, hobgoblin, or even a brand new goblin, but at the end of the day a goblin nonetheless because that is just what makes logical sense to the character. By mixing it up, it throws everything out of whack, I mean that'd be the equivalent of Vulture becoming the new Scorpion, you just don't do it. The other reason I have such a problem with this is because there's just no logic in Harry becoming Venom. With Eddie Brock (especially in Spectacular Spiderman, which handled the character arc rather, well, spectacularly) Venom was so much more than just a monster; he was the personification of vengeance. The symbiote gave Eddie a chance to fight back against Peter Parker, to lash out against a friend who had "betrayed" him on numerous occasions despite being given several chances to redeem himself. Even if Eddie HADN'T been established as Venom in the comics, this still would have made sense, it was just the next logical step in the character's evolution. Harry Osborn on the other hand, not so much. The only "crime" Peter has committed to garner Harry's anger was making new friends which seems rather childish of Harry in retrospect and even then, this little fued was patched up at the end of the episode. I'd understand it if they kept Osborn's hatred running for a few episodes but they frickin kissed and made up in a matter of seconds! As far as we're all concerned, there's no reason for Harry to still be mad at Pete, hell the Taskmaster episode saw all 7 of them (Pete's gang, MJ and Harry) hanging out like nothing was wrong. To have Harry turn into Venom just seems random and in the end makes me dread what surprises could possibly be coming next from this series...

#4 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11724 posts) - - Show Bio
@noj said:

The Venom episode was just plain horrible. Its what convinced me to drop the series. They absolutely BUTCHERED Venom and his origin story. Its just shameful.

#5 Posted by KRYPTON (1868 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still watching the show, no matter what!!

#6 Posted by Billy Batson (58376 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice spoiler in the title.
Problem, venom fans?
BB

#7 Edited by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

And they're cancelling EMH for more of this crap.

#8 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

The Venom episode was just plain horrible. Its what convinced me to drop the series. They absolutely BUTCHERED Venom and his origin story. Its just shameful.

THANK YOU!!!!!! Finally, someone agrees with me.

#9 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: You watched the Venom episode, too?

#10 Posted by TheVenomSite (48 posts) - - Show Bio

Why not just use Flash as the host? Flash was in the same episode the symbiote debuted, hell he even bonded with him briefly. I don't think this cartoon will last too long...

#11 Posted by OptimusPrime_700 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with all of you.This show sucks, but the Hulk episode was awsome. Any ways I don't like the fact that Harry Osborn is going to be Venom. He should become Green Goblin Jr. instead. After all he needs to be part of the goblin legacy. Then again who else could possible be Venom. It can't be Flash Thompson, because it is way too early for him to be Venom right now. They need to at least introduce Carnage if not Anti-Venom and all of the other symbiotes before Flash Thomson can become Venom. The only reason why the symbiote bonded to Flash is because of two reasons , the first reason is because it is a hint that Flash will eventually be Venom such not right now and the second reason is because Flash Thomson was closer plus it knew Peter Parker wouldn't give up his body without a fight.Venom has to be one of Peter Parker's friends. Seeing how Harry Osborn is Peter Parker's childhood friend besides Mary Jane Watson, he is the only person who can be Venom right now unless you want Venom to be Mary Jane Watson. Besides Harry Osborn has what is left of the symbiote in a bottle. Only he will know where it is at as soon as he hides it. I think Peter Parker will find out about it and it will bond to him for a little while before bonding to Harry, because after I had watched Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes lat Sunday, I saw a glimpse of Spider-Man bonded to the Venom symbiote and he looks more like what he is suppose to look like when he is bonded to it instead of looking like Venom.I wish that this show would be cancelled instead of AEMH, because of the fact that AEMH is really famous and we could possibly see Thanos in season three with the infinity gems and infinity gauntlet if they don't cancel it. I sure all of you would love to see Thanos on the show.

#12 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheVenomSite said:

Why not just use Flash as the host? Flash was in the same episode the symbiote debuted, hell he even bonded with him briefly. I don't think this cartoon will last too long...

That's what's annoying... this cartoon simply doesn't have a shelf life. A lot of people aren't enjoying it whereas you compare it to Avengers which clearly has much bigger and more devoted fanbase... And Marvel want to replace Avengers for another cartoon like this?

#13 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18837 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't like the show , but i still watch it considering the fact that im a mass spidey fan, and also, we don't know what the new avengers cartoon will be like, so lets just hope it's a bit more sophisticated

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#14 Posted by Master_Thief (790 posts) - - Show Bio

Im a huge fan of spidey but even before the show aired and i heard that Venom wasn't well Venom at all i new this show wasn't ganna last for two seasons

#15 Posted by SpideyFan4EVER (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Cmon guys if you where real fans of spidey you would like this show and all the others ..... personally i like all the spiderman series and also the fact that true is that venom shouldnt be harry osborn , as some of you said he should be Goblin Jr. or a new Goblin but anyway dont hate the show i thinks is awesome and spidey is jokes . About The Spectacular Spiderman ...... they canceled it not for The Ultimate Spiderman but they did because there were haters complaining about it and stuff like you guys do about TUS and if they cancel this series think how many people will be dissapointed just because a few hated it ..... i hope they dont cancel it (SPOILER FOR WHO DOESNT KNOW ) and they wont go like the Ultimate Spiderman Comics with the traggic ending when spidey dies to save cap america ....... so cmon , all i see is people saying how crap the show is and other bad thinks .... i said before that i disagree the fact venom is harry but did you think theyre trying to make a change in the show ? try something new ? in all series the same .....still good but who knows they mite be bringing some new stuff that we will like or even introduce Eddie Brock later on .... And theres no way they will put Anti-Venom because hes from future from what ive seen but i dont know about Carnage he probably will join if haters dont stop complaining about everything MARVEL does ....... In the Ultimate comics now there will be a new Spiderman ..... Thats what sucks .. Im used to see the normal Spiderman or any of his costumes as Peter Parker not as some other black spiderman with a invisible upgrade costume and other new powers .... IM NOT BEING RACIST but its just wrong that the spider we know in that universe will be no longer and some other dude takes his place ... Its like you see a NEW CAPTAIN AMERICA or a new IRON MAN ..... thats messed up ..... Thats all i had to say ....... :)

#16 Posted by fodigg (6136 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't bother me, I already don't watch that show because I don't find the way they do the 4th wall humor funny.

#17 Edited by Video_Martian (5562 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll bet you that USM will last only two seasons...

#18 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2685 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

The Venom episode was just plain horrible. Its what convinced me to drop the series. They absolutely BUTCHERED Venom and his origin story. Its just shameful.

Just what I was going to say!

#19 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (6358 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually haven;t watched Ultimate Spider-Man yet. They seem to get a ton of their crap wrong, and the overrall response from comic-vine has been less then positive. And as much as I love Eddie Brock/Venom...Harry Osborne could pull it off. Of course, I think they should introduce Brock later, but I still think that Osborne has enough rage and hunger for revenge inside him to make a good host.

#20 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (6358 posts) - - Show Bio

Just found out how he got the symbiote. Oh yeah, and Carnage was invented by Green Goblin.

Yet another reason for me to hate the overrated Dini.

#21 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

All true Spidey fans sing with me on 1...2...a 1, 2, 3....

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

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#22 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (6358 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

All true Spidey fans sing with me on 1...2...a 1, 2, 3....

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

Amen brother! That show did every one of it's characters perfectly, including Venom (Though I would have preferred to see the Black Cat/Spidey conflict resolved in the last episode...Shame)

#23 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

All true Spidey fans sing with me on 1...2...a 1, 2, 3....

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPEC-TAC-ULAR SPIDER-MAN

Amen brother! That show did every one of it's characters perfectly, including Venom (Though I would have preferred to see the Black Cat/Spidey conflict resolved in the last episode...Shame)

Indeed, I remember watching it and going, damn, this entire show really feels like the classic Lee-Ditko run with a modern twist. Damn shame that three of Marvel's greatest cartoons got canned.

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#24 Edited by PaperDemon (629 posts) - - Show Bio

the show is shit.

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