The Reservation X 'Twenty'?

#1 Posted by The Mighty Monarch (2016 posts) - 5 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

I finally caught up in Ultimate Comics X-Men, I felt their part in Divided We Fall and United We Stand were very rushed, and I feel pretty heavily disappointed that it appears Spencer's 'God' and 'Apocalypse' plotlines have been completely abandoned; but so far I'm absolutely LOVING Reservation X. But this isn't my main point because I have one lingering concern, or rather a question. We're told frequently that the mutant population has been reduced to Twenty. Of course this is probably disregarding any potential stragglers, but that's neither here nor there. There are supposed to be twenty mutants to determine the future of their race living on Reservation X. Yet when they showcase supposedly all of them at the leadership voting, I only counted 15. Does anybody have a list of all 20 Reservation X mutants? It would've been really nice of Marvel to provide one in the recap page, especially since the number keeps getting thrown around with such significance. They had a map during the crossover showing what states were allied where, they can't give us a list of 'The Twenty Mutants?'

#2 Posted by tojoegonzo (2 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

So I was thinking about this too. I think they might be talking about the number of people that were in Kitty's army have been reduced to 20.

If they mean in all of america then I think the other 5 would be the mutants that went to the SEAR. Also Colossos is missing, I think if he gave up his powers they would have at least shown him on the line.

Hopefully, there are still mutants living in America who kept their powers but weren't radical enough to leave the country. So that the number 20 they keep referring to is just Kitty's followers. If not then this storyline is interesting but ridiculous. I don't see why they had to make the number so low.

My last peeve is that no one has mentioned the complete death of Xavier's dream. Or that Ororo hasn't mentioned their time in the X-Men and having known Kitty when she was younger and untrained (14?). It would seem that between Ororo, Bobby, and Kitty that someone would mention that this isn't the world they fought for originally.

As for a list:

Colossus

Karen Grant (Jean Grey)

Derek Morgan, gargoyle guy from Ultimate X

Theodore "Teddy" Allan, son of blob from Ultimate X

Firestar (Liz Allen)

Havok, (Alex Summers) last seen in mental ward

Pietro (who apparently started the whole Nimrod thing but they dropped that) and Mystique who was recruiting for the Brotherhood in Ultimate X.

Wanda, Cyclops, Xavier, Magento may all be dead/imaginary/horsemen

#3 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@tojoegonzo said:

So I was thinking about this too. I think they might be talking about the number of people that were in Kitty's army have been reduced to 20.
If they mean in all of america then I think the other 5 would be the mutants that went to the SEAR. Also Colossos is missing, I think if he gave up his powers they would have at least shown him on the line.
Hopefully, there are still mutants living in America who kept their powers but weren't radical enough to leave the country. So that the number 20 they keep referring to is just Kitty's followers. If not then this storyline is interesting but ridiculous. I don't see why they had to make the number so low.
My last peeve is that no one has mentioned the complete death of Xavier's dream. Or that Ororo hasn't mentioned their time in the X-Men and having known Kitty when she was younger and untrained (14?). It would seem that between Ororo, Bobby, and Kitty that someone would mention that this isn't the world they fought for originally.
As for a list:
Colossus
Karen Grant (Jean Grey)
Derek Morgan, gargoyle guy from Ultimate X
Theodore "Teddy" Allan, son of blob from Ultimate X
Firestar (Liz Allen)
Havok, (Alex Summers) last seen in mental ward
Pietro (who apparently started the whole Nimrod thing but they dropped that) and Mystique who was recruiting for the Brotherhood in Ultimate X.
Wanda, Cyclops, Xavier, Magento may all be dead/imaginary/horsemen

What about Sabertooth, Xorn and Zorn?

#4 Posted by tojoegonzo (2 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@John Valentine: Yep I forgot them. But Xorn/Zorn are part of that whole Chinese off-brand mutant group. There are still a bunch of them. And then there are all the Mutants in other countries.

So I think there are still mutants in the world, its not as dire as Main Marvel Utopia, but they wanted to make the situation in the US seem dire as well as boil it down to a core group to focus on.

#5 Posted by The Mighty Monarch (2016 posts) - 2 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@tojoegonzo said:

So I was thinking about this too. I think they might be talking about the number of people that were in Kitty's army have been reduced to 20.
If they mean in all of america then I think the other 5 would be the mutants that went to the SEAR. Also Colossos is missing, I think if he gave up his powers they would have at least shown him on the line.
Hopefully, there are still mutants living in America who kept their powers but weren't radical enough to leave the country. So that the number 20 they keep referring to is just Kitty's followers. If not then this storyline is interesting but ridiculous. I don't see why they had to make the number so low.
My last peeve is that no one has mentioned the complete death of Xavier's dream. Or that Ororo hasn't mentioned their time in the X-Men and having known Kitty when she was younger and untrained (14?). It would seem that between Ororo, Bobby, and Kitty that someone would mention that this isn't the world they fought for originally.
As for a list:
Colossus
Karen Grant (Jean Grey)
Derek Morgan, gargoyle guy from Ultimate X
Theodore "Teddy" Allan, son of blob from Ultimate X
Firestar (Liz Allen)
Havok, (Alex Summers) last seen in mental ward
Pietro (who apparently started the whole Nimrod thing but they dropped that) and Mystique who was recruiting for the Brotherhood in Ultimate X.
Wanda, Cyclops, Xavier, Magento may all be dead/imaginary/horsemen

I think you misunderstood my question. I agreed that the 20 mentioned is probably Kitty's followers in Utopia, and that any potential stragglers are unaccounted for, but I've only counted 15 in Utopia. I'd want a list of the 20 they keep talking about because I can only find 15.

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