Will Harv be back for Batman 3?

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#1 Posted by paranormal (43 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean, the movie folks (incuding Aaron Eckardt) said ol' Face saga will continue in Batman 3 but considering what happened to him in TDK it may be difficult to bring him back from the dead.

So what do you think? You think our favorite double-personalited homicidal will be back for more?
I DO hope so...

#2 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love to see Two-face back but not likely to happen

#3 Posted by aloe vera (283 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he died..
I hope not..


they never had a funeral so yeah just a memorial lol
so until i see his decaying body! haha :-)

#4 Posted by paranormal (43 posts) - - Show Bio

I also don't think he died.
But we even get to see his corpse on TDK.
Perhaps there will be a preface on Batman 3 whe we see a mortician anlyzing Harv's body when he suddenly wakes up kills the poor guy and goes on a rampage for revenge on Batman.

#5 Posted by Night Hunter (4 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont think he died.....i mean batman feel to the floor too but he got up....Two-Face will probably end up in a comma and wake up later or something, thats what i think...

#6 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Night Hunter said:
"i dont think he died.....i mean batman feel to the floor too but he got up....Two-Face will probably end up in a comma and wake up later or something, thats what i think...
"
wtf?
#7 Posted by No_Name_ (12593 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Night Hunter said:
"i dont think he died.....i mean batman feel to the floor too but he got up....Two-Face will probably end up in a comma and wake up later or something, thats what i think...
"
wtf?
"
Thats not completely out of the question in my opinion if the story line is being based upon The Dark Victory, which it seems to sort of be.
#8 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
BatgirlBabs said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Night Hunter said:
"i dont think he died.....i mean batman feel to the floor too but he got up....Two-Face will probably end up in a comma and wake up later or something, thats what i think...
"
wtf?
"
Thats not completely out of the question in my opinion if the story line is being based upon The Dark Victory, which it seems to sort of be.
"
I was talking about the name of the guy lol
#9 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

In the official movie thread it says that the script clearly states that Two-Face dies (pulls sad face)

 

But personally i hope that he isn't and that he returns. The movie suggested that he will do.

#10 Posted by Punchinello (148 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully he will be back- the film's otherwise vague Two-Face ending did have evidence; what with that only 'Harvey Dent' had a memorial, so 'Two-Face is still alive; not Dent'. As well as that everyone's read the interviews where his actor let slip that Two-Face will be back for the third film!

Otherwise, if he does not come back: it would be fail. He was a perfect Two-Face; why kill off a brilliantly performed canon villain an hour into the film, and introduce three -more- villains in the third film? (Hoping Nolan will continue his Rogues Gallery idea, and pick Riddler.)

#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91414 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker wont.

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#12 Posted by King Saturn (225159 posts) - - Show Bio
Two Face in Batman 3 would be absolutely awesome
#13 Posted by lionel hunter (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

well if they go by the comics he will die like he did in the comics which i haven't read the one were he dies so i don't know

#14 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by pixelized (62883 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"http://movies.ign.com/articles/898/898426p1.html

there you have it people, Dent is dead"
damn...you beat me to it.

The Dark Knight has made such an impact on its fans, that people are already talking about the next chapter in the franchise.

This installment will soon have made $500 million domestically and it's already the second-highest grossing film of all time.

Fans are already talking about the potential villains that will appear in the next flick.

Here comes a SPOILER for those few of you that haven't seen The Dark Knight yet movie.

Among the discussions is the "death" of Harvey "Two-Face" Dent.

So the question is: after he falls, does he really die?

In the movie, you see people at his memorial service. However, some people are debating whether he really dies.

Luckily, earlier this week the script for the sequel was made available for purchase. Shortly thereafter it ended up online!

The script is 167 pages long, but if you go directly to page 163 you'll find the answer regarding Dent.

The script reads, "Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken." Followed by the stage direction, "DEAD."

And there you have it.

Shame!

Dent was one of the best things of Dark Knight.

#16 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio

NO!

#17 Edited by Last_Guardian (28024 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm hoping he;ll be back..maybe they can use the Lazarus Pit to bring him back :P


no somehow he HAS to be back....he looked so damn great...
#18 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio
Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"I'm hoping he;ll be back..maybe they can use the Lazarus Pit to bring him back :P

no somehow he HAS to be back....he looked so damn great...
"
I know! Aaron Eckheart is soo dreamy.
#19 Posted by Vendead (22 posts) - - Show Bio

that would be awsome for him to come back but in the script that Nolan and his brother wrote, it states that Harvey lies there dead.  So dont get ur hopes up.

#20 Posted by Last_Guardian (28024 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"I'm hoping he;ll be back..maybe they can use the Lazarus Pit to bring him back :P

no somehow he HAS to be back....he looked so damn great...
"
I know! Aaron Eckheart is soo dreamy."
O_O i didn't mean it in THAT way....i meant Mr. Two-Face looked great! very similar to the Batman Animated Series version...
#21 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio
Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"John Valentine said:
"Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"I'm hoping he;ll be back..maybe they can use the Lazarus Pit to bring him back :P

no somehow he HAS to be back....he looked so damn great...
"
I know! Aaron Eckheart is soo dreamy."
O_O i didn't mean it in THAT way....i meant Mr. Two-Face looked great! very similar to the Batman Animated Series version..."
Haha. I know, I was joking! :P.
#22 Posted by paranormal (43 posts) - - Show Bio
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's confirmed, Eckardt has confirmed Harvey's death (from now on, The Dark Knight isn't  a perfect film anymore), why do they just keep killing the villains in this movies (the same can be said for Venom, Green Goblin, Doc Ock...) and I'm sure that we'll have no Lazarus Pit in this franchise, considering the realistic style and the fact that the also late Rha's Al Ghul's immortality was just symbolic.
DAMM IT, why did they killed my fav villains EVER!!!!!
#23 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no way Nolan would make the character die dude... Batman and Gordon decided to fake Harvey Dent's funeral because they don't want to ruin the image of Harvey Dent-The White Knight of Gotham to the public. Remember the quote by Harvey Dent

"You either die a hero, or you lived long enough to see yourself becomes a villain"

That's why they decided to fake that funeral and tell everyone Harvey Dent died on the explosion.Gotham was in a good track by having most of the mafia and criminal in prison with Harvey's brilliant work as a DA, it'd ruin Harvey's reputation if the public knew he turned villain...

Two-Face was one of the greatest villain in Batman series, no way he would die so easy on Batman movie. Especially he only have a little scene on the movie (the major part on the movie is him being Harvey Dent). Two-Face probably get locked up inside Arkham Asylum--the prison for most of Batman villain... He'd escaped from Arkham later. If you watched carefully, you can see Scarecrow was on the ferry with other criminal, which mean he already being put inside Arkham.

Nolan would probably used Two Face as one of the main villain on the next movie. There's also a speculation about The Riddler and Catwoman being on the next movie. Also the height from were they fell was not a long enough fall to kill him. Batman had a armor but the impact would of been pretty much the same, so iF Harvey dies Bats was suppose to die as well; Specially since Bats had more weight on him.

#24 Posted by Duke Chauvelin Cotillard (112 posts) - - Show Bio

Harvey DID die though at the end...

#25 Posted by King Saturn (225159 posts) - - Show Bio
I thought Harvey died at the end of The Dark Knight ?
#26 Posted by Johnny Knights (131 posts) - - Show Bio

i saw the script on line it says he broke his neck and died so he won't be

#27 Posted by Shonen (692 posts) - - Show Bio

Well he didn't turn to ash and his body is basically fine so they could just say harvey faked his death.

#28 Posted by Nahero (9917 posts) - - Show Bio

i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave 

#29 Posted by Shonen (692 posts) - - Show Bio
Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Ledger would have the most badass real life death if he did that.
#30 Posted by Shawn The Devil (5754 posts) - - Show Bio
Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker.
#31 Posted by Shatterstar (4462 posts) - - Show Bio
Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."
He already played the Joker in Batman Forever. So did Tommy Lee Jones.


One thing that still interests me is what happened to the bank manager with the shotgun in the opening scene. Does he die of the gas the Joker stuck in his mouth in that opening scene or is that something that could turn him into a supervillain?
I'd like to see Two-Face come back with some more nutcase villains. I'd be shocked if there wasn't another Batman in this series, there's still a good amount of realistic villains to choose from, it made a mountain of money and Chris Nolan has to feel some satisfaction with the critical reception and all the cool crap he gets to do making these movies, plus they left that last movie with a wide open ending that implies another movie with Batman on the run.
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#32 Posted by Shonen (692 posts) - - Show Bio

no he played the riddler.

#33 Posted by Shatterstar (4462 posts) - - Show Bio
Shonen said:
"no he played the riddler."
Not really
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#34 Posted by Duke Chauvelin Cotillard (112 posts) - - Show Bio
Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."
Yeah if Joel Shoemaker was the director...? 
#35 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio
Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "

Negative.
If anything TDK has set the franchise up more: Batman is now a fugitive, numerous plot lines could be pursued.
Although Ledger's role was remarkable, he's not irreplacable, and there are plenty of other villains to choose from.


Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."

Don't joke.
#36 Posted by Shonen (692 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "

Negative.
If anything TDK has set the franchise up more: Batman is now a fugitive, numerous plot lines could be pursued.
Although Ledger's role was remarkable, he's not irreplacable, and there are plenty of other villains to choose from.


Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."

Don't joke."
Ledger is irreplaceable stop cheapening a dead man it's very bad.
 
#37 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio
Shonen said:
"John Valentine said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "

Negative.
If anything TDK has set the franchise up more: Batman is now a fugitive, numerous plot lines could be pursued.
Although Ledger's role was remarkable, he's not irreplacable, and there are plenty of other villains to choose from.


Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."

Don't joke."
Ledger is irreplaceable stop cheapening a dead man it's very bad.
 "
No, he's not irreplacable. His role was exceptional, amazing in fact, but another actor could be found to perform the part, especially a role as varied as the joker.
#38 Posted by paranormal (43 posts) - - Show Bio
Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
#39 Posted by paranormal (43 posts) - - Show Bio

But now that Aaron Eckardt hinted he "might come back" there is hope once again, even though it's not much

#40 Posted by Lunacyde (19523 posts) - - Show Bio
Shatterstar said:
"Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."
He already played the Joker in Batman Forever. So did Tommy Lee Jones.


One thing that still interests me is what happened to the bank manager with the shotgun in the opening scene. Does he die of the gas the Joker stuck in his mouth in that opening scene or is that something that could turn him into a supervillain?
I'd like to see Two-Face come back with some more nutcase villains. I'd be shocked if there wasn't another Batman in this series, there's still a good amount of realistic villains to choose from, it made a mountain of money and Chris Nolan has to feel some satisfaction with the critical reception and all the cool crap he gets to do making these movies, plus they left that last movie with a wide open ending that implies another movie with Batman on the run.
"

He played the riddler not the Joker....and Jones played two-face...and they both sucked. There is no way they should stop a franchise because of a villain. I could see PERHAPS if it was the actor who portrayed Batman but definately not the Joker. There are literally tons of other villains to make movies about!
#41 Posted by Shatterstar (4462 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Shatterstar said:
"Shawn The Devil said:
"Nahero said:
"i highly doubt there will be a batman 3 since theres no one to play joker so basically ledgers death put the movie franchise to a close since theres no acter that can play joker so ledger put the continuation to his grave "
Jim Carrey would be Great for Joker."
He already played the Joker in Batman Forever. So did Tommy Lee Jones.


One thing that still interests me is what happened to the bank manager with the shotgun in the opening scene. Does he die of the gas the Joker stuck in his mouth in that opening scene or is that something that could turn him into a supervillain?
I'd like to see Two-Face come back with some more nutcase villains. I'd be shocked if there wasn't another Batman in this series, there's still a good amount of realistic villains to choose from, it made a mountain of money and Chris Nolan has to feel some satisfaction with the critical reception and all the cool crap he gets to do making these movies, plus they left that last movie with a wide open ending that implies another movie with Batman on the run.
"

He played the riddler not the Joker....and Jones played two-face...and they both sucked. There is no way they should stop a franchise because of a villain. I could see PERHAPS if it was the actor who portrayed Batman but definately not the Joker. There are literally tons of other villains to make movies about!"
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Function:adjective
Etymology: Middle French facetieux, from facetie jest, from Latin facetia
Date:1599
: meant to be humorous or funny : not serious <a facetious remark>

Shatterstar is implying that both Jim Carey and Tommy Lee didn't really play their own characters so much as tried to play versions of the Joker. Maybe to one-up each other, maybe to try and one-up Nicholson, either way combined they didn't make one satisfactory villain. 
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#42 Posted by EpicNinja (231 posts) - - Show Bio

Reason's I do not believe Two-Face died

-When Batman turns Dent's head, Dent's right eye is closed... meaning the muscle functions in his eye lid must still be functional. The left eye does not matter due to the fact the eyelid was burned off.

-When Batman 'TURNS" Dent's so-called broken neck, there is no crack,pop or any other sound to signify his neck was broken or out of place.

-They never actually said "Two-Face is Dead"

-Faking Dent's death is one of the BEST ways to cover up what he actually did. So they could let him "die" a hero.

-Then my theory on how the Villain system works in the new Batman films.
1. Ras Al' Guhl helped establish The Scarecrow
2. The Scarecrow's gas helped create Joker (Talking about Jokers Card)
3. Joker turned Dent into Two-Face
4. Two-Face will help establish Villain in next film (Maybe hire someone to bring Batman to "Justice")

-None of the villains have truly been seen dead yet. Scarecrow came back, Joker was left hanging around, and no one really knows if Ras Al' Guhl survived or not.

-And lastly its a bad idea to fold your aces. XD

#43 Posted by Ultimate Magneto (1189 posts) - - Show Bio
EpicNinja said:
"Reason's I do not believe Two-Face died

-When Batman turns Dent's head, Dent's right eye is closed... meaning the muscle functions in his eye lid must still be functional. The left eye does not matter due to the fact the eyelid was burned off.

-When Batman 'TURNS" Dent's so-called broken neck, there is no crack,pop or any other sound to signify his neck was broken or out of place.

-They never actually said "Two-Face is Dead"

-Faking Dent's death is one of the BEST ways to cover up what he actually did. So they could let him "die" a hero.

-Then my theory on how the Villain system works in the new Batman films.
1. Ras Al' Guhl helped establish The Scarecrow
2. The Scarecrow's gas helped create Joker (Talking about Jokers Card)
3. Joker turned Dent into Two-Face
4. Two-Face will help establish Villain in next film (Maybe hire someone to bring Batman to "Justice")

-None of the villains have truly been seen dead yet. Scarecrow came back, Joker was left hanging around, and no one really knows if Ras Al' Guhl survived or not.

-And lastly its a bad idea to fold your aces. XD"
This. Those are all good points and while I'm fairly certain Ra's is dead, it was never totally stated nor did we see a body, hell, we didn't even see him inside when it crashed and burned, we just assumed he accepted defeat and death. Two-Face, while possibly dead could possibly still be alive. I'll wait until a third movie is made before I believe either side though.

It is silly to think that Ledger's death prevents any future sequels, Joker probably won't appear anymore anyway so Ledger's death is a moot point. It is a serious bummer he's gone now and if they DID replace him, I'd feel weird. Not saying he's irreplacable, but it always bothers me to see someone get replaced in a series. He was great and I'm certain there are people that can perform equally if not superior to him, but it'll be kinda awkward. Personally, however, I'd love to see Riddler and Two-Face in the third Batman movie. Poison Ivy would be a nice one too and don't tell me she's impossible. She can be slightly modified to be made realistic.

Take away plant control and lips of death (as well as green skin) and make her a psychotic plant loving woman who uses her good looks to seduce men, then poisons them with something that ANYONE could use. It doesn't take too much effort to change her, it's people like Clayface that is pretty much not going to happen. A shame.
#44 Posted by gandalf3219 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

                I find him surviving highly unlikely,but who knows Batman survived the fall ,but then again Two-Face dosn't wear special body armor like our pointy eared friend. Maybe he will be paralyzed or something ,but if they did it that way he couldn't do anything that interesting. It would be cool for him to survive though.

#45 Posted by Chicago_Bruce (75 posts) - - Show Bio

 I think killing off someone like Harvey is a big mistake. Sure, maybe that's what was written into the script originally, but since it played out on screen rather vaguely, I see it as an opportunity to bring him back. Honestly, I thought since the first time I watched The Dark Knight, that Gordon and Batman decided that they should have a public memorial for Dent so that he could be remembered as the White Knight, as the good man he was, knowing full well that Two-Face was alive and would likely come back to terrorize everyone. (ie, to spell it out, Harvey is dead, the body is not, the Two-Face persona continues)

I also don't like the idea that the only way to deal with a villain is to kill them off. In Batman Begins, to get Ra's al Ghul out of the picture, we let him die in a train accident, and now in The Dark Knight we're killing off Dent so that we don't have to deal with him any more? Lame! Of any of the characters, I would think that Harvey would be the best to maintain as a recurring role/adversary in Batman's life since Batman carries such guilt about what happened to Harvey that the friends/enemies dynamic can always haunt him.

But then again I suppose we have to keep in mind, this is the Nolan-verse. They're not in it for the long haul (just the there films, as I understand it). Likely they want to bring other villains to the screen instead of dealing in the long-term, as we see in the comic books.

#46 Posted by StarKiller809 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio

I would like him to be, but how could you bring back someone who died?
#47 Posted by digimod (234 posts) - - Show Bio
@StarKiller809 said:
" I would like him to be, but how could you bring back someone who died? "  
 
We're talking about a 'major' comic book character.  Think about it. :)
#48 Posted by StarKiller809 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@digimod:
But the Christopher Nolan Batman film series has always been very real like and resurection isn't life like.
#49 Posted by Antonio_Blackheart (1536 posts) - - Show Bio

two face is dead move on
#50 Posted by digimod (234 posts) - - Show Bio
@StarKiller809: yeah, maybe that's Nolan's intent.  Or maybe it just seems that way because he is focusing on the fact that Batman has no super powers and it just hasn't come up with the villains in the plots of the first two films.

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