When talking about the new Teen Titans #1, IGN posted: "Tim Drake is forced to step out from behind his keyboard when an international organization seeks to capture or kill super-powered teenagers. As Red Robin, he must team up with the mysterious and belligerent powerhouse thief known as Wonder Girl and a hyperactive speedster calling himself Kid Flash in TEEN TITANS #1, by Scott Lobdell and artists Brett Booth and Norm Rapmund."
Extrapolating from this, it sounds like Tim is a computer nerd/hacker that set out on his own as a superhero - with no ties to Batman - to help out super-powered teens at the urging of only his conscience, forming the Teen Titans in the process. I wish this was some kind of ongoing Elseworlds title instead of the new status quo, but this actually sounds PRETTY DANG AWESOME.
UPDATE! According this Bleeding Cool interview with Scott Lobdell, writer of the upcoming Teen Titans series, this isn't nearly so much of a reboot as I had suspected, but there WILL be changes to the continuity - such as the Titans never having met before. Check out the article, it answers a lot of questions.
Tim Drake
Character » Tim Drake appears in 3333 issues.
At the age of nine, Timothy Drake cleverly deduced the identities of Batman and Robin. Four years later, after the death of Jason Todd, Tim convinced Batman that he should be the new Robin. He would later become leader of Young Justice.
Tim's new origin?
But outside of that, I'm under the suspicion that the new Teen Titans will basically center around Tim, and then everyone else just gathers around him.
I think none of the TT have anything to do with there respective famlys, superboy wonder girl kid flash and red robin, I think there all on there own. Also he might play keyboard in a band...?
But outside of that, I'm under the suspicion that the new Teen Titans will basically center around Tim, and then everyone else just gathers around him.I kinda hope so, as much as I love the Teen Titans.
@spiderbat87 said:
Also he might play keyboard in a band...?
Haha! Win!
@-Vigil-: But logically speaking, Tim will need to have some sort of training. He can't go being a hero without any sort of training, so that is actually more supportive of some connection to Batman. And it's been shown, countless times in fact, that outside of helping keep Bruce mellow, Tim had no reason at all to be a hero, until that whole, killing off his parents and all his friends thing happened. Tim, out of all the Robin's, had the most reason to stop being a hero because, he had a family to return to and he was the most normal of them all.Yeah, I'm curious to see how it all plays out. But for now, extrapolating is fun. :)
What I'm iffy about in all this is, if he's "stepping out from behind the keyboard" and Batman isn't directly involved, how does Drake know how to fight?That's exactly why there could be a connection between Tim and Bruce. At the very least, a connection between Tim and a member of the Bat-Family.
THIS IS DUMB.
One of the biggest sells on Tim Drake was his relationship with Batman. The fact that he managed to deduce who Batman and Robin. Now I'm supposed to believe that he's some new superhero and the past 20+ years of his stories are gone?
Someone call me when this reboot nonsense is over.
@iLLituracy: The old universe will be back eventually, I'm sure. But for now I'm enjoying the new take on existing characters.I don't. Because this means that the old universe is going to be put on hold until this crap is undone.
@-Vigil- said:@fodigg said:
What I'm iffy about in all this is, if he's "stepping out from behind the keyboard" and Batman isn't directly involved, how does Drake know how to fight?That's exactly why there could be a connection between Tim and Bruce. At the very least, a connection between Tim and a member of the Bat-Family.
I think Vig has it about right. Tim should probably still be connected to the Bat family just for old times' sake (although there are ways for him to learn to fight without the connection) but Bruce already has Damian and will presumably still be connected to Dick and Jason in the relaunch. He doesn't really need Tim, and I don't think Tim really needs him.@Amegashita: I think it would be cool if he's still connected to Nightwing but not to Batman.
I also agree with Vigil that we'll probably pretty much get the old universe back in a few years.
@Amegashita said:Why not? Tim's character was built and grew to both mirror and contrast Bruce and the fact that he never wants to be like Batman. Bruce may not NEED Tim, but Tim certainly does need that relationship to Batman. If you take that away you take away the basis for the character in general, IMO.@-Vigil- said:@fodigg said:
What I'm iffy about in all this is, if he's "stepping out from behind the keyboard" and Batman isn't directly involved, how does Drake know how to fight?That's exactly why there could be a connection between Tim and Bruce. At the very least, a connection between Tim and a member of the Bat-Family.I think Vig has it about right. Tim should probably still be connected to the Bat family just for old times' sake (although there are ways for him to learn to fight without the connection) but Bruce already has Damian and will presumably still be connected to Dick and Jason in the relaunch. He doesn't really need Tim, and I don't think Tim really needs him. I also agree with Vigil that we'll probably pretty much get the old universe back in a few years.@Amegashita: I think it would be cool if he's still connected to Nightwing but not to Batman.
Imagine if they did the same thing with the Nightwing relaunch. Instead of becoming Robin, Dick went straight to being Nightwing after his family is killed without Bruce there to inspire or put him into the role of Robin. It simply doesn't work. If Tim doesn't have any ties or connections to the Batman family then it's not Tim.
@-Vigil- said:It's not going to happen because I have a gut feeling this is going to be a gigantic flop which is what usually prompts the whole switching back. I actually look forward to it. DC doesn't have the talent behind this to pull it off and their takes on some of these characters are atrocious.@iLLituracy: The old universe will be back eventually, I'm sure. But for now I'm enjoying the new take on existing characters.I actually hope this isn't true. Even though it probably will happen, I wish for ONCE DC or Marvel when they do something THIS big they'll actually stick to them and take let the changes last, I'm so freakin' sick of the whole "status que" -__-
Does this mean all the origins of characters are gonna be changed? I'm slightly confused. Do I have to forget everything I know about Tim? I really hope not.It's likely.
What I'm iffy about in all this is, if he's "stepping out from behind the keyboard" and Batman isn't directly involved, how does Drake know how to fight?Yea he plays keybored for a Culture Club tribute band
I'm glad I'm not a massive DC fan or getting any of their titles atm because I could see somthing like this really annoying me based on my feelings about The Beyonder retcon.
To answer your question, Tim was a major fan of both Batman and Robin.
He was originally just a Dick Grayson fan, right?
I also like this "red" variant, which is cut more like Tim's "green" costume:
And I had to include this one, cause damn, that says superhero:
The one thing I'm really happy about with the new costume is that he's no longer in a full cowl. I can learn to love the feathered wings, but less so if they're a symbol of him being distanced from the Bat Family. Yes I would prefer the cowboy hat and trench coat to the wings.
Wait, does this mean Tim's past/origins are all erased? Meaning he was never Robin, never knew Bruce or Dick or anything? Because if so that's just not cool. You can't just take away EVERYTHING Tim's gone through, everything that define him. Don't get me wrong, his new suit looks wickedly awesome and the story sounds pretty cool, but if it comes at the price of forgetting all the battles and life changing moments he went through then "nooo thank you!"
I never said it wasn't, I simply said he was a big fan of both Batman and Robin, and that there was no letting Tim in on the secret of Batman and Robin because he already knew.@Amegashita: Actually, it WAS a flip that Robin did that tipped Tim off in the first place - or perhaps just confirmed his suspicions (since he'd seen the Flying Graysons in person), but that doesn't mean Tim is a bigger fan of Robin than Batman.
Wait, does this mean Tim's past/origins are all erased? Meaning he was never Robin, never knew Bruce or Dick or anything? Because if so that's just not cool. You can't just take away EVERYTHING Tim's gone through, everything that define him. Don't get me wrong, his new suit looks wickedly awesome and the story sounds pretty cool, but if it comes at the price of forgetting all the battles and life changing moments he went through then "nooo thank you!"I'm wondering the same thing. I thought this was going to take place in another alternate reality until I actually read and stopped skimming...the costume looks cool and all but what effect will this have on the DC continuity involving these characters, and how will the RR comics change...kinda skeptical about this.
An article on a site that isn't IGN specifically (I believe it was Newsarama) mentioned Tim's former Robin status, mentioning that the former Robins (Dick, Tim, and Jason) will be headlining books. I doubt Tim would've been mentioned as a former Robin if he wasn't once Robin in the new continuity.
And since all of the Batman continuity is staying, especially the stuff since Grant has been on the book, then Tim would've been Robin who retired when Dick and Damian became Batman and Robin and went on to become Red Robin. The only thing that would change in the new continuity is that he was never a member of Young Justice and never went on to join the Teen Titans because of the Graduation Day event with the Superman Robot.
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