Tim Drake, the man without sin???

#1 Edited by saturnssailor (108 posts) - - Show Bio

In Red Robin 22 It says that Tim has no sins and nothing to repent for. Does that seem a little weird to anyone else? He is one of my favorite characters, but I am a firm believer in no one is perfect. He is a very good person and tries to help people, but he still makes mistakes and sometimes he also will do a bad thing for a good reason (ex. lying to his dad to keep his and Batman's identities secret.) 

Tim says that he has no sin. 

The sword stabs Tim.

The sword decides Tim has no sin.      
#2 Posted by DEGRAAF (8338 posts) - - Show Bio

Also i thought Dick was the one that ended up being sinless? Tim has done some cruel and inhumane sh!t since he became Red Robin
#3 Posted by Loki9876 (3322 posts) - - Show Bio

lol now i want to buy that issue

#4 Posted by Timandm (3393 posts) - - Show Bio
@saturnssailor: That sounds odd... No sin?  Could it have meant there were no "unconfessed" sins?  Sins that he had not expressed repentance for?
#5 Posted by saturnssailor (108 posts) - - Show Bio
@DEGRAAF: Tim ended up being deemed unworthy because he didn't believe in God. 
Unworthy 
#6 Posted by DEGRAAF (8338 posts) - - Show Bio
@saturnssailor
and Dick was the one named sinless right? Does Dick or Selina believe in god?
#7 Posted by saturnssailor (108 posts) - - Show Bio
@DEGRAAF: Sorry, I don't know. I only read the Red Robin one.
#8 Posted by cascadeking09 (6751 posts) - - Show Bio
I agree, I don't like the wording. They should've said something more like having a pure heart or something. I've seen Tim curse a few times and of coarse there's the lying thing.
@DEGRAAF said:
Also i thought Dick was the one that ended up being sinless? Tim has done some cruel and inhumane sh!t since he became Red Robin
They both were, but they said something about Tim being unworthy because he didn't believe and Dick because he felt guilty about something he did in the past. Like what?
#9 Posted by fodigg (6209 posts) - - Show Bio

He probably doesn't believe in the concept of "sin" as a state, since he is an athiest (or agnostic), so he probably doesn't hold any of the guilt associated with sin. And he really has done his utmost to be morally right in all of his actions. I can believe a sword like Azraels wouldn't find a problem with him. It would detect neither moral wrongdoing in Tim's past (nothing to atone for) or any feelings of pent-up "sinfulness" since he doesn't believe in that stuff. 
 
As for any day-to-day stuff--"thou shall not covet thy brother's batmobile"--I'd say a "tickle" from the sword covers that.

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