Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.
"ok thor can sent him away or disintergrate him with a though he posses all the power of his father plus his own.... he is high lvl sky father i even dare say the highest... the only think hulk does have is strength.. against a cosmic lvl being that can do so much more to him he be lucky if thor is in a good mode to face him in just brute strength any other way hulk dies horribly.."
Cosmic beings are talking about Hulk...and dude your being quite Biased right now
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far
Maybe, Thor can take the Hulk or the Rulk. I sure do enjoy when all powerful cosmic god gets pounded. Those kind of characters are not really enjoyable if no one has a chance of defeating them.
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too.
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime"
Superman, Kingdom Come Superman, Kal Kent and Prime Superman can too
Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
"
Superman is way above the speed of light...
on top of that his reaction time is quite fast
What weaknesses?
Kryptonite-Removed
Magic-Taken care off (although it was never a weakness)
Red Light-Thor can't use that
I don't see them comparable
Hercules is stronger than Thor, I remember reading in one comic Superman beating Hercules and Atlas with one hand each
The fastest Thor has ever gone is 3 times the speed of light, Superman has moved way above that in the past
The only comparable things are the long range attacks
are you series are you talking about regular supes or prime? and do you read marvel cause alot of your points are wrong
i meant regular lvl type supes like captain marvel or clark kent... i dont believe kingdom supe has a chance either... but the rest can and will take him down
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime"
Superman, Kingdom Come Superman, Kal Kent and Prime Superman can too
Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
"
Superman is way above the speed of light...
on top of that his reaction time is quite fast
What weaknesses?
Kryptonite-Removed
Magic-Taken care off (although it was never a weakness)
Red Light-Thor can't use that
I don't see them comparable
Hercules is stronger than Thor, I remember reading in one comic Superman beating Hercules and Atlas with one hand each
The fastest Thor has ever gone is 3 times the speed of light, Superman has moved way above that in the past
The only comparable things are the long range attacks"
Superman and everyone like him is weak to losing the energy he gathers from being under our sun.
Hercules isn't stronger than Thor
It doesn't matter what Thor or Superman's top speed is because eve at their best neither of them use it very much
Superman's ranged attacks are in no way comparable to Thor's
Oh and current Superman has no immunity to transmutation
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime"
Superman, Kingdom Come Superman, Kal Kent and Prime Superman can too
Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
"
Superman is way above the speed of light...
on top of that his reaction time is quite fast
What weaknesses?
Kryptonite-Removed
Magic-Taken care off (although it was never a weakness)
Red Light-Thor can't use that
I don't see them comparable
Hercules is stronger than Thor, I remember reading in one comic Superman beating Hercules and Atlas with one hand each
The fastest Thor has ever gone is 3 times the speed of light, Superman has moved way above that in the past
The only comparable things are the long range attacks"
Superman and everyone like him is weak to losing the energy he gathers from being under our sun.
Hercules isn't stronger than Thor
It doesn't matter what Thor or Superman's top speed is because eve at their best neither of them use it very much
Superman's ranged attacks are in no way comparable to Thor's
Oh and current Superman has no immunity to transmutation
"
And how will that help Thor?
Yes he is, Thor said it himself
Thor doesn't use it but Superman usually uses it against powerhouses on his level
Superman fried the JLA headquarters using his heatvision alone from the Earth. When he left loose his heat vision, scientists couldn't determine how warm they were, it was off the charts to them. Scientifics have determined the heat of the core of the Earth and also (I believe but not sure) the warm of a sun. That's only talking about his heat vision, he also has his artic breath
Yes he is, Zatanna taught him to prevent transmutation and also middle level spells from affecting him. While Phantom Stranger gave him a protection against magic so that even the most powerful magic attacks were really decreased in power
and all those enhancements where temporary and he was not good enough to stop transmution maybe resist low lvl but not actual powerful being otherwise he wouldnt have gone to zantannas cousin for some help against a magic user that was tearin him apart and he didnt even look that powerful.............. also he was also turned into a puppet by a magician.. after stranger had given him his supposed protection which i believe was a one time deal for his battle in the issue
"and all those enhancements where temporary and he was not good enough to stop transmution maybe resist low lvl but not actual powerful being otherwise he wouldnt have gone to zantannas cousin for some help against a magic user that was tearin him apart and he didnt even look that powerful.............. also he was also turned into a puppet by a magician.. after stranger had given him his supposed protection which i believe was a one time deal for his battle in the issue"
it's permanent, him being turned into a puppet was before he was given the protection.
That arc where Superman goes to ask Zatara for help was designed to make Krypto look like a badass. Krypto beating the guy that Superman couldn't is pure bullsh!t.
You do know who Atlas is right? Of course he is powerful
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime"
Superman, Kingdom Come Superman, Kal Kent and Prime Superman can too
Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
"
Superman is way above the speed of light...
on top of that his reaction time is quite fast
What weaknesses?
Kryptonite-Removed
Magic-Taken care off (although it was never a weakness)
Red Light-Thor can't use that
I don't see them comparable
Hercules is stronger than Thor, I remember reading in one comic Superman beating Hercules and Atlas with one hand each
The fastest Thor has ever gone is 3 times the speed of light, Superman has moved way above that in the past
The only comparable things are the long range attacks"
Superman and everyone like him is weak to losing the energy he gathers from being under our sun.
Hercules isn't stronger than Thor
It doesn't matter what Thor or Superman's top speed is because eve at their best neither of them use it very much
Superman's ranged attacks are in no way comparable to Thor's
Oh and current Superman has no immunity to transmutation
"
And how will that help Thor?
Yes he is, Thor said it himself
Thor doesn't use it but Superman usually uses it against powerhouses on his level
Superman fried the JLA headquarters using his heatvision alone from the Earth. When he left loose his heat vision, scientists couldn't determine how warm they were, it was off the charts to them. Scientifics have determined the heat of the core of the Earth and also (I believe but not sure) the warm of a sun. That's only talking about his heat vision, he also has his artic breath
Yes he is, Zatanna taught him to prevent transmutation and also middle level spells from affecting him. While Phantom Stranger gave him a protection against magic so that even the most powerful magic attacks were really decreased in power
"
1.I guess people seem to forget this but Thor could leech that energy.
2.Thor lied I can show you a scan that proves Thor is stronger
3.Actually he doesn't all the time..I have seen Superman fight people who are comparable and strength and other powers and not use his speed.
4.That's it?
5.I could have sworn he only had immunity to magic..if his resistance is a magical effect though Thor can reverse it.
not really since ppl like marvel has done the same thing........ i figured it was just the same... supe has no real skill or protection against high magic users period
"not really since ppl like marvel has done the same thing........ i figured it was just the same... supe has no real skill or protection against high magic users period"
Done what? Hurt him with magic? Apart from calling down his lightning, no.
"yes, i know but what i meant is he wasnt a real actual mystic user of high caliber like someone like thor strange or doom..."
Superman was vulnerable to transmutation before
He isn't now
Worth to point out, Superman beat Imperiex, who is DC's Galactus"
are you serious you want compare imperiex to galactus........ really need read some old school comics man galactus is an abstract hell he has no body what you see is an M body by another entity he is basically an avatar........ i really dont know what to say to your comment ..........
"yes, i know but what i meant is he wasnt a real actual mystic user of high caliber like someone like thor strange or doom..."
Superman was vulnerable to transmutation before
He isn't now
Worth to point out, Superman beat Imperiex, who is DC's Galactus"
are you serious you want compare imperiex to galactus........ really need read some old school comics man galactus is an abstract hell he has no body what you see is an M body by another entity he is basically an avatar........ i really dont know what to say to your comment .........."
No, Galactus is semi abstract, just like Imperiex and Anti-Monitor. He clearly has a body, since he has clearly been hurt before, And it is said his armor helps him regulate his internal energies. Why would an abstract need armor?
i dont know maybe cause it was explianed in an old quasar comic....... and during the infinity war when magus made a deal with the m abstract for dopplegangers
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
yeah i didnt agree with his list either but didnt want say anything. i dont think any regular supe like character can take him down...... just prime"
Superman, Kingdom Come Superman, Kal Kent and Prime Superman can too
Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nighthunter said:
So following your reasoning, Victor Von Doom can beat Thor but not someone who is stronger, faster, someone who has more powers, someone who has lost his vulnerability to magic and that even when he had he beat Captain Marvel who has the power of 7 gods, a weaker version of him beat an Angel (which in DC are above Thor's power levels)
Ever since his return and his "power up" I've been waiting for Thor to do something that supports the claims of his apparent powerlevels, nothing so far"
Victor Von Doom with prep could beat Superman too."
If Superman moves at his speed no matter what Doom has planned he won't be able to use it
you haven't said why Superman can't beat Thor"
I doesn't matter how fast Superman moves.Doom has been able to hit people who can go FTL before they could re-act.
Thor and Superman are comparable in every category...the difference is Superman has exploitable weaknesses and Thor doesn't.
"
Superman is way above the speed of light...
on top of that his reaction time is quite fast
What weaknesses?
Kryptonite-Removed
Magic-Taken care off (although it was never a weakness)
Red Light-Thor can't use that
I don't see them comparable
Hercules is stronger than Thor, I remember reading in one comic Superman beating Hercules and Atlas with one hand each
The fastest Thor has ever gone is 3 times the speed of light, Superman has moved way above that in the past
The only comparable things are the long range attacks"
Superman and everyone like him is weak to losing the energy he gathers from being under our sun.
Hercules isn't stronger than Thor
It doesn't matter what Thor or Superman's top speed is because eve at their best neither of them use it very much
Superman's ranged attacks are in no way comparable to Thor's
Oh and current Superman has no immunity to transmutation
"
And how will that help Thor?
Yes he is, Thor said it himself
Thor doesn't use it but Superman usually uses it against powerhouses on his level
Superman fried the JLA headquarters using his heatvision alone from the Earth. When he left loose his heat vision, scientists couldn't determine how warm they were, it was off the charts to them. Scientifics have determined the heat of the core of the Earth and also (I believe but not sure) the warm of a sun. That's only talking about his heat vision, he also has his artic breath
Yes he is, Zatanna taught him to prevent transmutation and also middle level spells from affecting him. While Phantom Stranger gave him a protection against magic so that even the most powerful magic attacks were really decreased in power
"
1.I guess people seem to forget this but Thor could leech that energy.
2.Thor lied I can show you a scan that proves Thor is stronger
3.Actually he doesn't all the time..I have seen Superman fight people who are comparable and strength and other powers and not use his speed.
4.That's it?
5.I could have sworn he only had immunity to magic..if his resistance is a magical effect though Thor can reverse it.
"
How? Even so he still has energy on his cells, he still can go to another sun to charge
Sure.....
I didn't say always but he usually does, the only times that he doesn't is basically to keep the plot going.
What does Thor have? His lightning is powerful but many have taken it, Hulk did it, even cap' shield has been able to take the hit.
Not if the guy who is powering the defense is more powerful than him. Before you say it Phantom Stranger>Thor
"not really since ppl like marvel has done the same thing........ i figured it was just the same... supe has no real skill or protection against high magic users period"
Captain Marvel has the power of 7 gods, not a fair comparison to Thor
The protection is recent, it came after Infinite Crisis
"i dont know maybe cause it was explianed in an old quasar comic....... and during the infinity war when magus made a deal with the m abstract for dopplegangers"
All I know, it was said that Galactus appears different to every race because they cannot grasp his true image, which makes him semi abstract. but if you look at the forty years of history, it is clear that Galactus is a corporeal being, and that there is a great difference between him and being such as say Eternity.
"yes, i know but what i meant is he wasnt a real actual mystic user of high caliber like someone like thor strange or doom..."
Superman was vulnerable to transmutation before
He isn't now
Worth to point out, Superman beat Imperiex, who is DC's Galactus"
are you serious you want compare imperiex to galactus........ really need read some old school comics man galactus is an abstract hell he has no body what you see is an M body by another entity he is basically an avatar........ i really dont know what to say to your comment .........."
Considering even Darkseid who is the most powerful "god" in DC was afraid to face him, yeah. Superman needed extra equipment just to hit Imperiex (note it didn't enhance him in any way, just helped him make contact)
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