Where Should Thor Be On The Food Chain At Marvel?

#1 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

I see so many threads asking, "Why does Marvel hate Thor?". "Has Thor been de-powered?". "Why has Marvel made Thor such a jobber?".

You get the idea. I've seen numerous such threads here as well as elsewhere. It's obvious a lot of Thor fans believe he is not where he should be in power.

What do you think? Has he been de-powered? And if so, where would you like to see Thor in terms of power in the Marvel universe?

#2 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

I think if Thor was on a team with characters that were in on his level "power wise" he would fair better. Being on a team with Captain America, Hawkeye and other characters who can't compete with him in power I think hurts his potential. Maybe put him on an Intergalactic Avengers team with some other heavy hitters like Captain Marvel, Wonder Man, Photon, and Vision.

That being said I'm not a Thor fan so maybe I'm not hitting at what his fanbase wants.

#3 Posted by Asagod (292 posts) - - Show Bio

Unhappily, Thor has been depowered by Marvel. Thor should be on the top, he should be the most powerful hero ever, slightly below skyfather level. Marvel should use him in asgardian battles and just bring him to earth during really bad threats. That's what I want for him, but I know many people may think otherwise.

#4 Edited by Selinaky (677 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blood1991 said:

I think if Thor was on a team with characters that were in on his level "power wise" he would fair better. Being on a team with Captain America, Hawkeye and other characters who can't compete with him in power I think hurts his potential. Maybe put him on an Intergalactic Avengers team with some other heavy hitters like Captain Marvel, Wonder Man, Photon, and Vision.

That being said I'm not a Thor fan so maybe I'm not hitting at what his fanbase wants.

I actually agree. I love him as a main Avenger, but really there's not much that Cap/Hawkeye etc should be able to deal with that Thor couldn't easily handle.

@Asagod said:

Unhappily, Thor has been depowered by Marvel. Thor should be on the top, he should be the most powerful hero ever, slightly below skyfather level. Marvel should use him in asgardian battles and just bring him to earth during really bad threats. That's what I want for him, but I know many people may think otherwise.

I agree, I prefer the Asgardian setting, although I would miss him on the team.

#5 Posted by PowerHerc (85153 posts) - - Show Bio

I've stated it before and I now state it again:

Though I feel the Hulk and Hercules are both slightly stronger than him, Thor is and should always be the all-around most powerful Marvel superhero.

More powerful than Phoenix (though this one is close), the Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, the Sentry and any other Marvel superhero. That's how I feel about it.

#6 Posted by Sinfulplayerx (193 posts) - - Show Bio

Online NowWhen I hear the name Thor. I can almost hear someone saying.... "I present to you............ Marvels Ultimate Warrior............ The Heroic Nordic.............. The Big Gun with the Big Hammer......... The Mighty Thor." -------------------> ( However I think the 2 words "Mighty" and "Warrior" fit him best). You had me at "Have at thee".

#7 Posted by Clark_EL (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

He should be the most powerful and compete with DC's big guns.

#8 Posted by RoboShark (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

I myself have only recently warmed up to the character. Infact Aaron's current Thor book is the first Thor book I've read.

#9 Posted by joshmightbe (25006 posts) - - Show Bio

If it were up to me he'd be top dog

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#10 Posted by Regal_Rumble_Man (874 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic power levels

#11 Posted by BigCimmerian (8671 posts) - - Show Bio

He should be the most powerful superhero on Earth and to be present when heroes are facing the most dangerous threats.

#12 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Regal_Rumble_Man said:

Classic power levels

What was Thor capable of at Classic power levels?(scans)

#13 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Regal_Rumble_Man said:

Classic power levels

What was Thor capable of at Classic power levels?(scans)

Go to respect thor thread, that is very good for classic thor.

#14 Posted by Regal_Rumble_Man (874 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

He should be the most powerful superhero on Earth and to be present when heroes are facing the most dangerous threats.

yeah so we can have epic battles that will screw up with planetary systems and such, because fighting in a city gets boring fast. Also strange so that dumb **** "one more day" plots won't happen again.

#15 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Regal_Rumble_Man said:

yeah so we can have epic battles that will screw up with planetary systems and such, because fighting in a city gets boring fast. Also strange so that dumb **** "one more day" plots won't happen again.

Superman can destroy moons yet 100% of his fights that occur on Earth, Earth is never destroyed.

#16 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor should be the strongest one.

#17 Posted by Regal_Rumble_Man (874 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: super earth?

#18 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

Thor should be the strongest one.

And most powerful.

@Regal_Rumble_Man said:

@xxxddd: super earth?

What?

#19 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

Thor should be the strongest one.

Relative to earth superheroes.

#20 Posted by Epicbeast3000 (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay this is marvel food chain.

1.One above all.

2. pre-retcon beyonder, HOTU thanos.

3. Abstracts and super powerful mysticals like shuma gorath, vishanti and Chthon.. oh and full powered galactus, and Chaos hercules, Amatsu mikaboshi

4. medium galactus, inbetweener

5. Elder gods like Gaea and Set

6. Dormammu( in his own realm), Rune King THOR

6. skyfathers like odin and zeus and helllords like dormammu(not in his realm) and mephisto.

7. Thanos and Onslaught.

8. Thor, silver surfer. and gladiator.

That is where thor stands. Well maybe silver surfer should be a bit higher but I didn't feel like putting him there

#21 Posted by MrBossAwesomeDude (238 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor should be the superman of marvel, but stronger and cooler! He has a magical hammer for Christs sake. He should be destroying worlds, kicking hulks butt, and basically owning all of marvel earths super heroes.

#22 Posted by Razero (336 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Hulk should always be the strongest, but Thor should always be the most powerful.

#23 Posted by TheGodofThunder (599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Epicbeast3000 said:

Okay this is marvel food chain.

1.One above all.

2. pre-retcon beyonder, HOTU thanos.

3. Abstracts and super powerful mysticals like shuma gorath, vishanti and Chthon.. oh and full powered galactus, and Chaos hercules, Amatsu mikaboshi

4. medium galactus, inbetweener

5. Elder gods like Gaea and Set

6. Dormammu( in his own realm), Rune King THOR

6. skyfathers like odin and zeus and helllords like dormammu(not in his realm) and mephisto.

7. Thanos and Onslaught.

8. Thor, silver surfer. and gladiator.

That is where thor stands. Well maybe silver surfer should be a bit higher but I didn't feel like putting him there

This

#25 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Epicbeast3000 said:

Okay this is marvel food chain.

1.One above all.

2. pre-retcon beyonder, HOTU thanos.

3. Abstracts and super powerful mysticals like shuma gorath, vishanti and Chthon.. oh and full powered galactus, and Chaos hercules, Amatsu mikaboshi

4. medium galactus, inbetweener

5. Elder gods like Gaea and Set

6. Dormammu( in his own realm), Rune King THOR

6. skyfathers like odin and zeus and helllords like dormammu(not in his realm) and mephisto.

7. Thanos and Onslaught.

8. Thor, silver surfer. and gladiator.

That is where thor stands. Well maybe silver surfer should be a bit higher but I didn't feel like putting him there

Pretty Fair.

But yea, he should easily be the most POWERFUL like PowerHerc said. I really think he should stop being used as a plot device to make other characters look strong for beating Thor. Recently it's like he loses more than he wins, by a massive margin. Also, Thor really never should lose to Hulk..

#26 Edited by HaveAtThee (543 posts) - - Show Bio

Where he always should have been. Marvel's biggest gun. Hulk can still be Earth's strongest MAN, but Thor should be more powerful since he is the son of a Skyfather and Elder Goddess. As that list showed, he should be slightly below Odin/Zeus/Thanos status. One of Marvel's biggest problems is that their three most famous characters (Iron Man, Wolverine, Spider-Man) are all somewhat higher than street-level heroes. Their next most popular individual characters are Hulk and Thor, their two biggest guns in terms of power. Whereas for DC, other than Batman, the most famous are Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. All major powerhouses. In fact, if you just look at the JL it's usually been a collection of DC's most powerful heroes, with Batman playing the role of strategist. Other than the occasional ridiculous plot-device allowing for Batman to shine, it's easier to write Superman or Wonder Woman in a team setting because of the level of their peers and their villains. DC's universe, at least historically, is the more superhuman/fantastical universe where as Marvel has always stressed humanism and realism in their stories. It's why you have plot-devices such as Asgard being placed above Oklahoma. It was a way to "bring humanism" to a god like Thor.

This is a problem with both Hulk and Thor being on The Avengers. They are both far beyond the rest of the cast that either the villain has to be more powerful than both of them (someone like Thanos) to be a real threat, or they both have to be shown far less powerful than they really are to make it seem more balanced. Marvel has always been far too obsessed with its lesser powerful heroes (Wolverine, Spidey, Cap, Iron Man), especially since Bendis came along on Avengers. Busiek told more of a superhero story and at least had Wonder Man, Ms. Marvel, Scarlet Witch and Vision alongside Thor to level the playing field. "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" sounds a bit silly when you regularly have guys like Spider-Man, Cap, Wolverine, Hawkeye, and Black Widow as regulars.

#28 Posted by Clark_EL (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe below surfer too.

#29 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Now Thor seems more better written.

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