What if Thor was there to fight World War Hulk?

#1 Posted by jumpstart55 (2270 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Edited by jumpstart55 (2270 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Could Thor had stopped the Hulk?

2. Or would Thor had fallen?
#3 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@jumpstart55 said:

1. ´Thor would have f**ked hulk up

OR

2.  ´Thor would have f**ked hulk up    

#4 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk would've been dropped.

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#5 Posted by Iron_Turtle (580 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:
@jumpstart55 said:

1. ´Thor would have f**ked hulk up

OR

2.  ´Thor would have f**ked hulk up    

LMAO. Gold
#6 Posted by jumpstart55 (2270 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp:  How so?
#7 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@jumpstart55 said:
@ReVamp:  How so?


How else?

Hammer to the f**king head.

 

 

 

Well... on second though I suppose that it could be a hammer to the f**king abdomen

#8 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

IDK, it's taken all of the avengers together to stop him before. So I don't think he could have stopped him, being that Hulk was even stronger in WWH, then he was when the avengers fought him.

(but with a good reason, I could be swayed).

#9 Edited by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has had trouble with Hulk in less powered forms than WWH, so I doubt Thor would have made a huge difference.

#10 Posted by Feniks (366 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure, been a while since i've read that 'era', but didn't Thor have the Odin Force at that point?

#11 Posted by Wattup (648 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody was beating the Hulk during WWH. He was severely pissed.

#12 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: Thor was usually seen to be holding back constantly. When he was revived, he wrecked Tony and stated he's done holding back.
Sentry gave Hulk the fight of his life (up to that point). Thor is more powerful than that version of Sentry.
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#13 Posted by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor at the time could have beaten the daylights out of Hulk cause he was still juiced on the Odinforce.

#14 Posted by Mumbles (846 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk would've killed him only to give us thor reborn #1

#15 Posted by joshmightbe (24716 posts) - - Show Bio

If Thor had use of the Odinforce Hulk would've got stomped that is if Thor didn't sit it out 

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#16 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
Thor has had trouble with Hulk in less powered forms than WWH, so I doubt Thor would have made a huge difference.


Yeah, but that's just pure idiocy.

1. This should be in the Battle Forums, under Thor vs. World War Hulk

2. I'm sure that thread has already been created.

3. PIS. Doesn't thor have the abilities to move at a great speeds? Yeah, so speed Blitz FTW. 

4. Marvel wouldn't bring Thor into this for no reason, they let him be.

5. Taking Marvel writers into account, they allways want to make Hulk look like a BAMF, so they would make it that either

     a)He'd lose, for the purpose of the story (which isn't bad)

     b) He'd be in another place occupied (ie Asgard)

     c) He'd win, and the story would go on from there

     d) Hulk would use some exploit to gain the upper hand.

 

Without Marvel PIS, Thor's Powerset would allow him to clean Hulk's clock. Specially with everyone else there.


 

#17 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@Caligula: Thor was usually seen to be holding back constantly. When he was revived, he wrecked Tony and stated he's done holding back.
Sentry gave Hulk the fight of his life (up to that point). Thor is more powerful than that version of Sentry.


^

And I'm obviously taking into account he DOES NOT have Odinforce.

#18 Posted by DEGRAAF (7870 posts) - - Show Bio


If Thor had the Odin force he would win but not because of the hammer since Hulk has lifted the hammer with pure strength before

 

#19 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:
@Caligula said:
Thor has had trouble with Hulk in less powered forms than WWH, so I doubt Thor would have made a huge difference.


Yeah, but that's just pure idiocy.

1. This should be in the Battle Forums, under Thor vs. World War Hulk

2. I'm sure that thread has already been created.

3. PIS. Doesn't thor have the abilities to move at a great speeds? Yeah, so speed Blitz FTW. 

4. Marvel wouldn't bring Thor into this for no reason, they let him be.

5. Taking Marvel writers into account, they allways want to make Hulk look like a BAMF, so they would make it that either

     a)He'd lose, for the purpose of the story (which isn't bad)

     b) He'd be in another place occupied (ie Asgard)

     c) He'd win, and the story would go on from there

     d) Hulk would use some exploit to gain the upper hand.

 

Without Marvel PIS, Thor's Powerset would allow him to clean Hulk's clock. Specially with everyone else there.


 

Speed Blitz doesn't mean a win against the Hulk. He is far too durable for that. plus Thor's Speed blitz is considerably less than most.

and sorry to break it to Thor fans. But Hulk has destroyed Thor numerous times.
#20 Posted by Manchine (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Thor had the Odinforce.   Thor would destroy Hulk.  Without the Odinforce.  Thor would of lost.
#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk lifting the hammer is bad writing. He could never lift the hammer.

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#22 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
Hulk lifting the hammer is bad writing. He could never lift the hammer.
done it more then once I'm afraid.
#23 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: Yeah, its a continuous streak of bad writing. Lifting the hammer doesn't require strength, it's whether or not you are worthy. Every time Hulk has been shown lifting the hammer, it resulted from pure strength, not worthiness.
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#24 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL Thor would have destroyed the Hulk, with or without the OF, i mean yeah Hulk is strong and durable, but that's about it, Thor has just as much strenght and durability, plus flight, speed, comtrol ove the weather, and much more, without PIS Thor would've either beaten Hulk to a pulp ( unlikely because of plot dirrection ), or seing that the Hulk was wronged he would have either helped him or let him be.

#25 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@Caligula: Yeah, its a continuous streak of bad writing. Lifting the hammer doesn't require strength, it's whether or not you are worthy. Every time Hulk has been shown lifting the hammer, it resulted from pure strength, not worthiness.
I think that's the point  of it though. Is to show he is strong enough to negate the magic in it. That pretty sure what they intended when writing it.
#26 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: Probably, but it negates the purpose of what the Mjolnir stands for. Doesn't matter.
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#27 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:
LOL Thor would have destroyed the Hulk, with or without the OF, i mean yeah Hulk is strong and durable, but that's about it, Thor has just as much strenght and durability, plus flight, speed, comtrol ove the weather, and much more, without PIS Thor would've either beaten Hulk to a pulp ( unlikely because of plot dirrection ), or seing that the Hulk was wronged he would have either helped him or let him be.
I posted scans, proving Hulk is stronger than Thor (w/o Odinforce) and more durable.  where is your proof other than just claiming so.
#28 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@Caligula: Probably, but it negates the purpose of what the Mjolnir stands for. Doesn't matter.
exactly, Hulk is so strong, that the Magic of it only being able to be lifted by the worthy is negated. I find that kind of cool honestly but to each his own.
#29 Posted by Westlife (1798 posts) - - Show Bio
@DEGRAAF
That's PIS. At least I think so. But I'm not all that clear as to the bounds of piss
#30 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: If that's the case then yes, it is pretty cool. I just would like an explanation. Knowing Marvel, they wouldn't want to downplay Hulk by refusing to let him lift up a "mere" hammer. That's my theory.
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#31 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@Westlife said:
@DEGRAAF: That's PIS. At least I think so. But I'm not all that clear as to the bounds of piss
Not really PIS, since Hulk has done it several times.
#32 Posted by karrob (4278 posts) - - Show Bio

This was a what if? It ended with them seeing eye to eye

#33 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: First Hulk shouldn't be capable of lifting the hammer, unlees you are implying that hulk is more powerfull than Odin, second yesh maybe with time could become as strong as Thor, but that would only happen if Thor gave him enough time to even get to that state, and even if he does show me a sacan of one of Hulk's strenght feats that surpasses the Midgard Serpent one, you can't it's non-existent, alright assuming he can beat Thor in strenght alone, if Thor wasn't being dumb and holding back like he always does, he should've won that fight first because he doesn't even need to touch Hulk, second Hulk pcking up the hammer there was serious PIS, like the Red Hulk using space to do the same, i mean c'mon, anyway one Big Lightning Bolt should do the trick.
#34 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

I still think Hulk would smash Thor.

But as I said when I first posted. I'm open to evidence to the contrary and will gladly admit to being wrong, if shown why.

#35 Posted by Vitality (1761 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:


                    @Caligula: Thor was usually seen to be holding back constantly. When he was revived, he wrecked Tony and stated he's done holding back.
Sentry gave Hulk the fight of his life (up to that point). Thor is more powerful than that version of Sentry.


                   

               

I believe this as well.
#36 Posted by Westlife (1798 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula

Because sentry gave Hulk a run for his money.

It's Arguable all they would have needed was Dr. Strange's super demon, had he not gone all moral on us.

#37 Posted by Vitality (1761 posts) - - Show Bio

"The second story has Thor and the Warriors Three flying back from Africa on a plane when they hear of the Hulk's attack. Thor leads the others against the Hulk's forces. He and the Hulk engage in a massive battle across Manhattan as the Warriors fight the Warbound. As their battle continues, the Hulk and Thor learn of civilians needing help in destroyed tunnels and work together to save them. Thor manages to talk through to the Hulk, convincing him to give up his vendetta. Back at Madison Square Garden, the Warbound have discovered Miek's role in the destruction of Sakaar and have surrendered. The Sentry arrives only to find the battle over. Thor negotiates a settlement for all parties with the Hulk and his forces returning to rebuild Sakaar and leave Earth in peace"
#38 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:
@Caligula: First Hulk shouldn't be capable of lifting the hammer, unlees you are implying that hulk is more powerfull than Odin, second yesh maybe with time could become as strong as Thor, but that would only happen if Thor gave him enough time to even get to that state, and even if he does show me a sacan of one of Hulk's strenght feats that surpasses the Midgard Serpent one, you can't it's non-existent, alright assuming he can beat Thor in strenght alone, if Thor wasn't being dumb and holding back like he always does, he should've won that fight first because he doesn't even need to touch Hulk, second Hulk pcking up the hammer there was serious PIS, like the Red Hulk using space to do the same, i mean c'mon, anyway one Big Lightning Bolt should do the trick.
I guess everytime Hulk beat Thor, and everytime Hulk lifted the Hammer it was PIS. as for the Lightning Hulk Survived Johnny Going Supernova, Hulk Survived Fin Fang Fooms Dragon Fire, and if you actually read all of the scans I posted, You would know He survived Thor's Lighting, that how Thor started the fight.

Also  Hulk held together and exploding planet. and he lifted a Six hundred Billion ton mountain with ease.

You have yet to show even a single scan proving that Thor could win without the Odinforce. go ahead i'm waiting. :D
#39 Edited by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio
@jumpstart55 said:

@ReVamp:  How so?

Hulk has beaten Thor. Thor has never beaten the Hulk. Regular Hulk and Savage Hulk have beat Thor. WWH would have destroyed a "normal" Thor.  Recently he verbally  threatened both Red Hulk AND Thor  and that was sufficient enough, to calm them down.
Hulk is the Strongest Human Superhero.Period.
Thor fears Hulk.
#40 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@turoksonofstone said:
@jumpstart55 said:
@ReVamp:  How so?
Hulk has beaten Thor. Thor has never beaten the Hulk. Regular Hulk and Savage Hulk have beat Thor. WWH would have destroyed a "normal" Thor. 
Recently he threatened both Red Hulk AND Thor to and that was sufficient enough, to calm them down.
Hulk is the Strongest Human Superhero.Period.
Thor fears Hulk.
I've shown them that Thor has already got demolished by the Hulk. I'm waiting on anyone to do the same for Thor. But they can't because Thor can't beat Hulk.
#41 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vitality said:
@Deranged Midget said:


                    @Caligula: Thor was usually seen to be holding back constantly. When he was revived, he wrecked Tony and stated he's done holding back.
Sentry gave Hulk the fight of his life (up to that point). Thor is more powerful than that version of Sentry.


                   

               
I believe this as well.
believing is one thing. but I believe proof. and so far no one on arguing for Thor has any.

This fight has happened with a weaker version of Hulk (more then once). and Thor always lost or needed the Avengers.
#42 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula:  Lol it wasn't 6billion it was 1,5 billion, and the midgard serpent is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay heavier than that, and he's still faster, as for him lifting the hammer, prove to me that he is more powerfull than Odin and i will admit it's not PIS, and you really think Johnny going nova is more powerfull than one of Thor's lightning bolts, not really Thor's killed the Sentry, and hurt CK, Hulk was stomped by Zeus who was Stomped by CK.
#43 Posted by Vitality (1761 posts) - - Show Bio


Actually...now that I think about it...I don't Thor could win.

 

This is why.

 

Sentry, although he gave him a great fight, still lost in the end.

 

It has been proven that Sentry radiates energy that calms an enraged Hulk.

 

So, Sentry, even with all his "Hulk-calming" energy could not stop WWH.

 

Therefore...I don't believe Thor could either.

#44 Posted by SC (12731 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
@Deranged Midget said:
Hulk lifting the hammer is bad writing. He could never lift the hammer.
done it more then once I'm afraid.

He has never done it in mainstream Marvel continuity. 
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#45 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:
@Caligula:  Lol it wasn't 6billion it was 1,5 billion, and the midgard serpent is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay heavier than that, and he's still faster, as for him lifting the hammer, prove to me that he is more powerfull than Odin and i will admit it's not PIS, and you really think Johnny going nova is more powerfull than one of Thor's lightning bolts, not really Thor's killed the Sentry, and hurt CK, Hulk was stomped by Zeus who was Stomped by CK.
Hulk already tanked Thor's lighting bolts. Read the scans kid.

Dude if Hulk has done it multiple times, and several writers have written him being able to do so. then it's not PIS. You still have not posted any proof. try again.
#46 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

sorry it was 150 billion, well still not as impressive as the MS.

#47 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:
@Caligula said:
@Deranged Midget said:
Hulk lifting the hammer is bad writing. He could never lift the hammer.
done it more then once I'm afraid.

He has never done it in mainstream Marvel continuity. 
yes he has.
#48 Edited by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:

@turoksonofstone said:

@jumpstart55 said:
@ReVamp:  How so?
Hulk has beaten Thor. Thor has never beaten the Hulk. Regular Hulk and Savage Hulk have beat Thor. WWH would have destroyed a "normal" Thor.  Recently he threatened both Red Hulk AND Thor to and that was sufficient enough, to calm them down.
Hulk is the Strongest Human Superhero.Period.
Thor fears Hulk.
I've shown them that Thor has already got demolished by the Hulk. I'm waiting on anyone to do the same for Thor. But they can't because Thor can't beat Hulk.
Exactly. There is an issue of Thor where the 60's version of Hulk stomps Classic Thor unconscious while Odin watches... was it in the  #240's? But Yeah, Thor never wins these fights with or without help.
#49 Posted by SC (12731 posts) - - Show Bio
@turoksonofstone said:
@jumpstart55 said:

@ReVamp:  How so?

Hulk has beaten Thor. Thor has never beaten the Hulk. Regular Hulk and Savage Hulk have beat Thor. WWH would have destroyed a "normal" Thor.  Recently he verbally  threatened both Red Hulk AND Thor  and that was sufficient enough, to calm them down. Hulk is the Strongest Human Superhero.Period. Thor fears Hulk.

This really, really depends what you mean by "beat" 

I know a lot of people use the knock unconscious rule, in which case Thor is the only one to have knocked out hulk, in his Annual and it was with a lightening bolt. Then i also know a lot of people who use the, punch him a lot and throw him around a lot more than the other guy does that back, in which case Hulk has like a few times, where he has bruised or bloodied Thor and Thor looked dazed or close to being knocked out. 

Thor and Hulk fears Jarvis. Just sayin. 
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#50 Posted by SC (12731 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula:  Issue number is all i ask kindly, please great sir with the bucket on his head (lol) 
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