was Malekith a good choice for a villian in Thor 2?

#1 Posted by rondoudou (182 posts) - - Show Bio

i am just wondering do you guys think that the dark elf king was a good choice for the villian in thor 2 because dont you feel that he is rather obscure compared to several other villians that could have been used like surtur, fenris wolf, hela,jorgunmdemr ? and as well does anyone know any major feats that the malekith has done in the comics so i could get a good idea of what thor is fighting against?

#2 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

You're missing the important thing about Malekith and the Dark Elves being in the movie

Kurse is in it

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#3 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have gone with Enchantress and Executioner, personally. The duo would make for an interesting villain dynamic (one has the wits to match Thor and also serves as a romantic interest, while the other matches Thor physically), and they could be setup for a Masters of Evil team in Avengers 2. Plus, the whole Casket of Winters thing doesn't really interest me, since I've already had my fill of snow from the first Thor's Niffleheim.

All that being said, I can live with Malekith and Kurse. They're pretty cool villains. If you want to learn more about Malekith, I'd recommend the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes episode entitled 'The Casket of Ancient Winters'.

#4 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Veshark: It was Jotunheim in the first Thor movie

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#5 Posted by rondoudou (182 posts) - - Show Bio

well it just seems a little strange thats all its like if professor pyg got chosen as a leading villian in a batman movie thats all, and as well why do the pictures of the dark elves look so weird in the snapshots from the set?

#6 Posted by Z3RO180 (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

Well you have to remember other than Loki most of the general public didn't know thor had any villeins so really ones just as obscure as the other

#7 Posted by JonSmith (3988 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have prioritized making Beta Ray Bill happen rather than focusing on the villain.

#8 Posted by rondoudou (182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: i guess ur right

#9 Posted by TheCannon (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

I expected Enchantress & Executioner. While I love Enchantress, I really didn't want to see her. I was hoping for Surtur & Hela, but Surtur is better for a third film.

Overall, I think Malekith (and Kurse) was a good choice. They're god characters that are an actual threat.

I would like to see a brief appearance by the Wrecking Crew fighting Thor on Earth if it would fit into the plot though.

#10 Posted by SC (12675 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its set up this way for a few reasons. Villains need to head an army of sorts as well as appear as themselves. Loki is really popular and was already the bad guy, here he seems more neutral, which sets up a possible Thor and Loki, strength and mind/cunning clash against another strong powerful character in Kurse and another cunning manipulator in Malekith. I'd love to see Enchantress myself, but she plays off Loki a certain way - and probably if Loki was more antagonistic leaning we would have got her in sequel, hopefully we get her in 3. Surtur almost seems to big, so maybe he will be the big bad in 3? Anyway all depends and hopefully Thor 2 is better than 1.

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#11 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

Fom what I understand of The plot of Thor 2 is Malekith invades Asgard with the Dark Elves so is this a good villain choice? Yes.

#12 Posted by Loki9876 (2993 posts) - - Show Bio

Malekith isn't in so many stories so I hope Jason Aaron will write a big malekith story also Eckelson is playing the role, he should play a good villain.

#13 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2585 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm fine with Malekith being the villian. I was hoping maybe Ulik would have a spot too, but it seems unlikely. They def gotta go with Surtur in the 3rd film, with a whole Ragnarok theme!

#14 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically this question can't be asked , because the movie isn't out yet. There's no way to pass judgement on unknown results.

#15 Posted by rondoudou (182 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: yeah thats the thing malekith hasnt been in many stories so its hard to imagen the threat that he might pose

#16 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

@rondoudou said:

@evilvegeta74: yeah thats the thing malekith hasnt been in many stories so its hard to imagen the threat that he might pose

yep

#17 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@rondoudou: He's not in many stories because he's usually a huge threat

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#18 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@Veshark: It was Jotunheim in the first Thor movie

Gah, right, my bad. Sorry, too many realms to keep track of.

#19 Posted by THORSON (2317 posts) - - Show Bio

he helps sets up Surtur.

so yes

#20 Posted by Selinaky (677 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's a decent choice, I'm sure they have good reason for choosing Malekith. It also hopefully opens up to possiblities of seeing other realms.

I would've loved to see Enchantress, but I think she may have been too similar to Loki as a villain in some aspects, and she's Asgardian, so perhaps it's best if that's left for later. Hela would be very interesting.

I'm just really hoping the movie will be good!

#21 Posted by Pyrogram (35022 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally like the choice, He is not a well known villain so that gives the director and writers the freedom to make him how they want. It means that the audience are not expecting anything first. So I think it will be good. I would have loved to see the Enchantress though. Surtur is too strong for a second movie, it would be a good plot to show how strong Odin is though.

#22 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like the notion of the character being treated like he's some how lessened because few people know about him. With the exception of Hulk and Cap most of the Avengers weren't exactly well known by non comic fans. I could count on one hand the amount of non comic readers who even knew who the hell Maria Hill was prior to the Avengers movie that doesn't mean she had no place in the movie.

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#23 Posted by starrk_coyote (620 posts) - - Show Bio

okay this is jumping and biting up the shark, first lets watch the movie when it comes out then we will talk about it :)

#24 Edited by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

I personally like the choice, He is not a well known villain so that gives the director and writers the freedom to make him how they want. It means that the audience are not expecting anything first. So I think it will be good. I would have loved to see the Enchantress though. Surtur is too strong for a second movie, it would be a good plot to show how strong Odin is though.

#25 Edited by HaveAtThee (492 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's a fine choice. You get a psychologically twisted/cold and calculating character in Malekith who has powerful magic at his disposal. Then you add in Kurse for the chance to have an awesome one-on-one battle with he and Thor. The movie should be great. Had they gone with Enchantress and Executioner, I would've been pleased as well, but Amora has a longer history with Thor, and seeing as she was not in the first, it would've been a bit strange to introduce her in the sequel with flashbacks about their history. The first film and Avengers has established Thor and Jane, Sif and the Warriors Three. Now they're building on that universe.

Plus, it'll be great to see the Asgardians exploring the rest of the nine realms. That gives Marvel/Disney the chance to make some beautiful looking 3D settings.

#26 Edited by New_World_Order (12452 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

I personally like the choice, He is not a well known villain so that gives the director and writers the freedom to make him how they want. It means that the audience are not expecting anything first. So I think it will be good. I would have loved to see the Enchantress though. Surtur is too strong for a second movie, it would be a good plot to show how strong Odin is though.

How about Ymir, or Mangog?

#27 Posted by lanebad6 (111 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Surtur will be shown at the credits or maybe Ymir, but does Odin at this time already have the odinforce?

#28 Posted by HaveAtThee (492 posts) - - Show Bio

@lanebad6 said:

I think Surtur will be shown at the credits or maybe Ymir, but does Odin at this time already have the odinforce?

He should seeing as he's the All-Father of Asgard.

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