I was wondering since he always uses mjolnir, can he use most of his powers without mjolnir, such as superstrength, superspeed, flight, etc? And also would he be able to use the odin force and his magic without it? Would he have all weather and earth control?

His physical abilities are all natural (strength, speed) and no he cannot fly without Mjolnir. Mjolnir channels and focuses his elemental powers though he could technically use them without it though with more effort and less control.

@argusx said:

His physical abilities are all natural (strength, speed) and no he cannot fly without Mjolnir. Mjolnir channels and focuses his elemental powers though he could technically use them without it though with more effort and less control.

He can hover without the hammer.@jay_z94:

This is where I think Marvel has gone wrong with Thor. He IS the God of Thunder and son of Gaea. He should be able to control any of his powers - weather manipulation, lightening, earth manipulation, etc - with or without the hammer. But, for some stupid reason, Marvel has many of his powers tied to the hammer. The hammer SHOULD be a powerful channeling and amplifying weapon, but that's not the way its been written.

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

The Hammer pretty much just focuses his natural abilities and grants him flight. Its actually more of a crutch for him if you think about it since using it keeps him from having to learn to control it on his own.

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

Cool. Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a look.

@ThanoStomp: He has to have some sort of weakness.

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

where .. what was the feat of strength?

@Jonny_Anonymous: You know they go hand and hand.

@evilvegeta74: @evilvegeta74: not always

So glad Aaron is showing weather control without Mjolnir.

Even seeing those scans for the millionth time, that moment is so freakin' EPIC.

@cmartin said:

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

where .. what was the feat of strength?

Young Thor battled the God Butcher and not only survived but hurt him so bad, that it caused the God Butcher to want to kill all Gods. That was not only a younger less experienced Thor, but a Mjolir-less Thor.

@Jonny_Anonymous: Point is? either way your dead.

@Pyrogram: that was the star and end of my point, he call said thunder then used lightning

@Jonny_Anonymous: The writers are not Thunder enthusiasts , and what would Thunder have looked like?

or

I could not tell without Google.

@Pyrogram: thunder wouldn't of looked like anything, it's just noise.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

Thunder is caused by lightning strikes displacing air rapidly.

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

@Jonny_Anonymous: He never said he done Thunder, just he is the god of Thunder.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

But he is the god of thunder... Leave this bit of the forums if it irritates you.

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

but it's not, that's like saying exhaust fumes is cars. Thunder is a by product of lightning.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

but it's not, that's like saying exhaust fumes is cars. Thunder is a by product of lightning.

Thunder is lightning (displacing the air rapidly.)

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

And relevance is?

@Pyrogram said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

And relevance is?

It's relevant because saying I'm the god of thunder then hitting someone with lightning is the equivalent of saying I'm the god of echos and hitting someone with a CD player.

@Jonny_Anonymous: Thor is most known as a thunder god and thunder gods always by default have power over lightning and storms. Thor is first and foremost a thunder god naturally. Thor's name in old Norse means "thunder" so really it's a given he'd reply with thunder.

@Jonny_Anonymous:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Pyrogram: don't be so buthurt

Lol irony at its best.

@Jonny_Anonymous:

@Jonny_Anonymous:

It wouldn't make sense if the big "Kra-Koooomm" wasn't there. That was the thunder. I thought it was brilliant because you can hear it even with out reading the words. That is the sign of great art.

@TheGodofThunder: Well said.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

Because god of thunder sounds too cool.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@afueikawa said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

Yea, why not god of storms? at least that would make more sense

Thor is the Thunder God because it all comes from Norse Mythology, where Mjolnir could fly so fast that it became a lightning, and when it did hit the ground (or whatever it was thrown to) the sound produced was the thunder. So in Norse Mythology, Thor was the god who produced thunder, because Mjolnir was the lightning itself.

he's got plenty to go on even without the hammer. All the good stuff of course: class 100 strength, invulnerability, superhuman speed feats, etc. But he's still got total control of the weather, including lightning of course, can use a full body godblast, lightning manipulation from his body and some other stuff.

Read thor god of thunder bro, he needs not mjolnir, tis but a tool to thor.