Thor's powers without mjolnir

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#1 Posted by jay_z94 (347 posts) - - Show Bio

I was wondering since he always uses mjolnir, can he use most of his powers without mjolnir, such as superstrength, superspeed, flight, etc? And also would he be able to use the odin force and his magic without it? Also one last question, could he control the weather without mjolnir and cast lightning bolts from the skies or from his hands, etc, since he is still the god of thunder without mjolnir. I heard during the time without mjolnir, he found powers within himself which he had never used before because he always relies on mjolnir. Thanks guys

p.s. i'm a new comicvine member, but have been reading the forums for years

#2 Posted by argusx (94 posts) - - Show Bio

His physical abilities are all natural (strength, speed) and no he cannot fly without Mjolnir. Mjolnir channels and focuses his elemental powers though he could technically use them without it though with more effort and less control.

#3 Posted by King Saturn (223801 posts) - - Show Bio
without Mjolnir, Thor has Superhuman Strength and Superhuman Durability for the most part. Thor is kind of quick without his Hammer but nothing like a Superman. 
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#4 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx said:

His physical abilities are all natural (strength, speed) and no he cannot fly without Mjolnir. Mjolnir channels and focuses his elemental powers though he could technically use them without it though with more effort and less control.

He can hover without the hammer.@jay_z94:

#5 Posted by ThanoStomp (780 posts) - - Show Bio

This is where I think Marvel has gone wrong with Thor. He IS the God of Thunder and son of Gaea. He should be able to control any of his powers - weather manipulation, lightening, earth manipulation, etc - with or without the hammer. But, for some stupid reason, Marvel has many of his powers tied to the hammer. The hammer SHOULD be a powerful channeling and amplifying weapon, but that's not the way its been written.

#6 Posted by Juandicimo_Magnifico45 (151 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

#7 Posted by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio

The Hammer pretty much just focuses his natural abilities and grants him flight. Its actually more of a crutch for him if you think about it since using it keeps him from having to learn to control it on his own.

#8 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

#10 Posted by ThanoStomp (780 posts) - - Show Bio

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

Cool. Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a look.

#11 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThanoStomp: He has to have some sort of weakness.

#12 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

where .. what was the feat of strength?

#13 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: You know they go hand and hand.

#14 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: @evilvegeta74: not always

#15 Posted by TheGodofThunder (584 posts) - - Show Bio

So glad Aaron is showing weather control without Mjolnir.

#16 Posted by HaveAtThee (492 posts) - - Show Bio

Even seeing those scans for the millionth time, that moment is so freakin' EPIC.

#17 Posted by Juandicimo_Magnifico45 (151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

Thor's current Marvel NOW! title is currently exploring this now. The younger version shows him without Mjolnir. So far, we saw that he has incredible strength and can control lightning without Mjolnir, but he was not able to fly.

where .. what was the feat of strength?

Young Thor battled the God Butcher and not only survived but hurt him so bad, that it caused the God Butcher to want to kill all Gods. That was not only a younger less experienced Thor, but a Mjolir-less Thor.

#18 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: Point is? either way your dead.

#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: that was the star and end of my point, he call said thunder then used lightning

#20 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: The writers are not Thunder enthusiasts , and what would Thunder have looked like?

or

I could not tell without Google.

#21 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: thunder wouldn't of looked like anything, it's just noise.

#22 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

Thunder is caused by lightning strikes displacing air rapidly.

#23 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

#24 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: He never said he done Thunder, just he is the god of Thunder.

#25 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

#26 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

#27 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

#28 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

But he is the god of thunder... Leave this bit of the forums if it irritates you.

#29 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

#30 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

#31 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

but it's not, that's like saying exhaust fumes is cars. Thunder is a by product of lightning.

#32 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

but it's not, that's like saying exhaust fumes is cars. Thunder is a by product of lightning.

Thunder is lightning (displacing the air rapidly.)

#33 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

And relevance is?

#34 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@TheSwordsman: Yea I know but that still wasn't thunder, it was lightning.

Also whats the point in Omnipotence City when there's already The Infinite Embassy, it's pretty redundant.

Thunder is lightning.

lightning is lightning, thunder is just sound. he should have said god of storms or something.

Again, thunder is simply a byproduct of lightning displacing the air. Thunder is lightning (displacing air rapidly).

thunder is what lightning causes, it's not what it is.

And relevance is?

It's relevant because saying I'm the god of thunder then hitting someone with lightning is the equivalent of saying I'm the god of echos and hitting someone with a CD player.

#35 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2609 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: Thor is most known as a thunder god and thunder gods always by default have power over lightning and storms. Thor is first and foremost a thunder god naturally. Thor's name in old Norse means "thunder" so really it's a given he'd reply with thunder.

#36 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous:

#37 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pyrogram: don't be so buthurt
#38 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Pyrogram: don't be so buthurt

Lol irony at its best.

#39 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pyrogram: hay your the guy thats moaning just because I think the wordings weird 
#40 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous:

#41 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pyrogram: I'm sorry I won't criticize anything to do with your precious Thor again 
#42 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous:

#43 Posted by TheGodofThunder (584 posts) - - Show Bio

It wouldn't make sense if the big "Kra-Koooomm" wasn't there. That was the thunder. I thought it was brilliant because you can hear it even with out reading the words. That is the sign of great art.

#44 Posted by Pyrogram (35068 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGodofThunder: Well said.

#45 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

#46 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio
@afueikawa said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

Yea, why not god of storms? at least that would make more sense 
#47 Posted by TheGodofThunder (584 posts) - - Show Bio

Because god of thunder sounds too cool.

#48 Posted by Asagod (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@afueikawa said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

it's funny because that's lightning not thunder

I think it goes the same for Raiden of MK.

Also wondering why god of thunder rather than god of lightning, since thunder can only deal damage thru its sound (levels ?) i think.

Yea, why not god of storms? at least that would make more sense

Thor is the Thunder God because it all comes from Norse Mythology, where Mjolnir could fly so fast that it became a lightning, and when it did hit the ground (or whatever it was thrown to) the sound produced was the thunder. So in Norse Mythology, Thor was the god who produced thunder, because Mjolnir was the lightning itself.

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#49 Posted by Fernando072295REBORN (502 posts) - - Show Bio

he's got plenty to go on even without the hammer. All the good stuff of course: class 100 strength, invulnerability, superhuman speed feats, etc. But he's still got total control of the weather, including lightning of course, can use a full body godblast, lightning manipulation from his body and some other stuff.

#50 Posted by Sebast_Allen (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

Read thor god of thunder bro, he needs not mjolnir, tis but a tool to thor.

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