Thor jobs again...

#2 Posted by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

It isn't jobbing. He's lost a few times in the comics, so it's not contradicting anything canon. Don't see how it's jobbing.

The only time I've seen Thor job was when he was stabbed through the back and defeated by Rhino.

#3 Posted by Mercy_ (92684 posts) - - Show Bio
@jj62 said:

It isn't jobbing. He's lost a few times in the comics, so it's not contradicting anything canon. Don't see how it's jobbing.

The only time I've seen Thor job was when he was stabbed through the back and defeated by Rhino.

Wasn't that during Siege?

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#4 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn.

#5 Posted by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has proven multiple times that they both have it in them to take out each other.

Thor will win sometimes and it isn't Hulk jobbing.

Hulk will win sometimes and it isn't Thor jobbing.

It really depends on the circumstance because Hulk is physically greater than Thor, but Thor has Mjolnir which evens out the odds. The winner would be decided by circumstance.

#6 Edited by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: I don't remember, I remember that Rhino had Midgard Serpent's tooth as a horn. He stabbed Thor from behind and beat him in the fight.

I love Rhino, and as much as I love to see him win fights. He shouldn't have beaten Thor.

#7 Posted by Mercy_ (92684 posts) - - Show Bio

@jj62: I am 99% sure that was during Siege, which means it was just ridiculous writing anyways. Siege was terrible.

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#8 Posted by Saren (25616 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: It was during Ends of the Earth. Amazing Spider-Man #683.

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#9 Edited by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: Well yeah. I was just saying, that's the only time I've ever really seen Thor job to somebody.

#10 Posted by Mercy_ (92684 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: Dammit, I stand corrected.

Thank you and your encyclopedic brain.

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#11 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: actually the rhino stabbing was during ends of the earth by slott.

#12 Posted by TDK_1997 (14692 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Marvel try really hard at times to convince most people that Hulk is stronger and that he can defeat Thor but after some time they try to do the opposite.

#13 Edited by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel doesn't know who to push. Hulk as always been popular, but nowadays it looks like it's waning. Thor as of, late is more of a fresh property to casual fans. Thor also I can see having a little more draw cause of the heavy Norse mythology themes .

#14 Edited by TheGodofThunder (597 posts) - - Show Bio

@jj62: How isn't that jobbing? He didn't even get a hit. He was smashed by a statue and that's it. Was there more in the actual episode?

#15 Posted by Teerack (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure it'll be just as good as Ultimate Spider-Man.

#16 Posted by Z3RO180 (6458 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: No it wasn't during siege because rhino was not in valves in that event it happend during a spiderman event

#17 Posted by Perethorn (3346 posts) - - Show Bio

At least is a cartoon, so its not really big deal to watch him losing like that. Still, Avengers vs X-Men was the worst jobbing for Thor

#18 Edited by HaveAtThee (523 posts) - - Show Bio

It's hardly a 50 second clip. It isn't like Thor is down for the count. I'm sure he gets back up and puts some hurtin' on Hulk.

#19 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18013 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:
@jj62 said:

It isn't jobbing. He's lost a few times in the comics, so it's not contradicting anything canon. Don't see how it's jobbing.

The only time I've seen Thor job was when he was stabbed through the back and defeated by Rhino.

Wasn't that during Siege?

it was the " ends of The Earth " arc by Dan Slott.

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#20 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18013 posts) - - Show Bio

a clip and you people start ragin, seriously?

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#21 Posted by SC (12961 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has never been "jobbed" and no character has ever been "jobbed", because they are fictional and aren't real and terms like jobbed are invented by people who either don't understand how fiction and stories work or they have been exposed en masse to people who don't and they conform. We are looking at a cartoon yes? Made by writers with opinions and ideas and who want lots of people to watch their cartoon and like it and like it in a way that will hopefully get them watching more of the cartoon and creating an interest for the characters. Its a Marvel thing, the whole reason for having teams is some characters will appeal to some types of people more than others. The guys who like leaders and morally strong, eat your vitamins type among other things will like Cap, those who like sleek, stealthy, badass assassin spies will like Widow, those who like witty, egotistical, playboy Robert Downey Jr will like Iron Man. Thor and Hulk are the heavy hitters - why did the last cartoon have Banner and Hulk but not Blake and Thor as much? Well thats the thing, you can't fit 40 plus years of solo and team comics into a cartoon. In cartoons when presenting these characters actually Hulk needs, needs to have some special edge over the other characters, because it may sound daft to some, but there are lots of people out there who like the strong guy especially when he is the underdog and one people view as a monster. Not good team balance for a cartoon to have one guy get too much attention, which is also why you see a lot more deus ex machina situations. Also see Captain America judo Thor and Hulk.

Plus its only a trailer and its a trailer for a cartoon that uses cardboard cut animation half the time heh heh. Remember how Dan Slott wrote Rhino beating Thor? You know the same Dan Slott who thinks Thor is more jacked and powerful than Sentry, Hulk, Silver Surfer and any other Marvel superhero? Yeah how does a writer let a character like Spider Man shine when characters like Thor are around? Plot device just like whole all stories have plot devices. How do you help increase the legitimacy of danger and threat as well? You take out the big gun first. Rhino + Plot Device Tooth + Writer who thinks Thor is uber powerful = Thor beat like = How does that equal to Thor fans disliking what happened or accusations of jobbing? Do some writers take advantage of Thor's powerset to make other characters look good? Sure! Thor is also a recipient of that writing too.

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#22 Posted by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc said:

Thor has never been "jobbed" and no character has ever been "jobbed", because they are fictional and aren't real and terms like jobbed are invented by people who either don't understand how fiction and stories work or they have been exposed en masse to people who don't and they conform. We are looking at a cartoon yes? Made by writers with opinions and ideas and who want lots of people to watch their cartoon and like it and like it in a way that will hopefully get them watching more of the cartoon and creating an interest for the characters. Its a Marvel thing, the whole reason for having teams is some characters will appeal to some types of people more than others. The guys who like leaders and morally strong, eat your vitamins type among other things will like Cap, those who like sleek, stealthy, badass assassin spies will like Widow, those who like witty, egotistical, playboy Robert Downey Jr will like Iron Man. Thor and Hulk are the heavy hitters - why did the last cartoon have Banner and Hulk but not Blake and Thor as much? Well thats the thing, you can't fit 40 plus years of solo and team comics into a cartoon. In cartoons when presenting these characters actually Hulk needs, needs to have some special edge over the other characters, because it may sound daft to some, but there are lots of people out there who like the strong guy especially when he is the underdog and one people view as a monster. Not good team balance for a cartoon to have one guy get too much attention, which is also why you see a lot more deus ex machina situations. Also see Captain America judo Thor and Hulk.

Plus its only a trailer and its a trailer for a cartoon that uses cardboard cut animation half the time heh heh. Remember how Dan Slott wrote Rhino beating Thor? You know the same Dan Slott who thinks Thor is more jacked and powerful than Sentry, Hulk, Silver Surfer and any other Marvel superhero? Yeah how does a writer let a character like Spider Man shine when characters like Thor are around? Plot device just like whole all stories have plot devices. How do you help increase the legitimacy of danger and threat as well? You take out the big gun first. Rhino + Plot Device Tooth + Writer who thinks Thor is uber powerful = Thor beat like = How does that equal to Thor fans disliking what happened or accusations of jobbing? Do some writers take advantage of Thor's powerset to make other characters look good? Sure! Thor is also a recipient of that writing too.

Yep.

#23 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18013 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread Infuriates me.

you don't even know if thor lost the fight.

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#24 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure why it even matters considering the toon counterpart isn't likely to be sporting at all the same levels of power Thor in the comics even has. It's a false flag at best.

#25 Edited by Fernando072295REBORN (502 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: He doesn't. He hits Hulk, hulk hits him, he hits Hulk, Hulk gets up, fight is interrupted. Calm down people lol. This is worse than me on a particularly fed up day.

#26 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18013 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: He doesn't. He hits Hulk, hulk hits him, he hits Hulk, Hulk gets up, fight is interrupted. Calm down people lol. This is worse than me on a particularly fed up day.

my point exactly, they haven't seen the episode and they are crying already.

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#27 Posted by Hoarderofhilarity (299 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is ridiculous, Thor doesn't even lose we see what happens mostly to assuage both fans one character is 'removed' from the fight and that is at a shove as we don't even know if that's what happens Hulk could conceivably get koed when Thor gets up, Thor could be koed by the Hulk or it could most likely be an interrupted stalemate. Sheesh I back Thor in Hulk vs Thor fights I have to admit but one inconclusive clip in not enough to rage and even I admit Hulk has the physical edge as the fight progresses (although Thor is initially stronger) so please stop whining. The clip in inconclusive,it is a cartoon and lets face it Iron man gets his arse handed to him by cap so I think we should be far more infuriated by that injustice than a speculative defeat.

#28 Posted by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

Way to jump to conclusions, man....

#29 Posted by Hoarderofhilarity (299 posts) - - Show Bio

Having watched the episode they both go at it and neither is harmed by the other attacks at all seemingly, they display an odd sort of bromance throughout and Hawkeye suggest that when they 'scrap' it causes 9.2 earthquakes in the local area.

#30 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Having watched the episode they both go at it and neither is harmed by the other attacks at all seemingly, they display an odd sort of bromance throughout and Hawkeye suggest that when they 'scrap' it causes 9.2 earthquakes in the local area.

Oddly, I'm really looking forward to the bromance...

#31 Posted by HaveAtThee (523 posts) - - Show Bio

This new cartoon pales in comparison with EMH. This is like a poor man's version of the live-action film. Thanks Marvel.

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