Thor in the movies and depiction.

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#51 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad said:

the point is not that Thor in the movies is underpowered, is that Thor in comics is overpowered

How is comics Thor overpowered?

#52 Posted by Asagod (292 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad said:

the point is not that Thor in the movies is underpowered, is that Thor in comics is overpowered

No, he is not. He's underpowered in both comics and movies.

#53 Posted by arnoldoaad (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@arnoldoaad said:

the point is not that Thor in the movies is underpowered, is that Thor in comics is overpowered

How is comics Thor overpowered?

Cause he has teleportation

so the movie version is just the right amount of power

#54 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@arnoldoaad: Yer man, a GOD being overpowered.

Again, how is comics Thor overpowered?

@arnoldoaad said:

Cause he has teleportation

That doesn't mean he's overpowered.

#55 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Pyrogram said:

@arnoldoaad: Yer man, a GOD being overpowered.

Again, how is comics Thor overpowered?

@arnoldoaad said:

Cause he has teleportation

That doesn't mean he's overpowered.

Exactly.

#56 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad: and comic thor cannot teleport any more.

#57 Posted by TheGodofThunder (599 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor was shown to be the most powerful in Avengers. They showed he was a very capable fighter even without his hammer and his strength was comparable to Hulk's. Thor used only one arm to catch Hulks arm. Had Thor been going all out, Hulk would be toast. Imagine that first bit of the fight where thor dodged Hulks blows with ease and was basically smacking him around with little jabs. Now Imagine that scene, but with lightning and the hammer. Thor was not weak compared to the rest. He took down Two serpents with just lightning. No one else on that team could do that.

#58 Posted by arnoldoaad (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@arnoldoaad: and comic thor cannot teleport any more.

Lol, in that case what is the problem?

#59 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki was used as a punch bag toward the end of Avengers. Besides that though it was all good.

#60 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@arnoldoaad: and comic thor cannot teleport any more.

@arnoldoaad said:

Lol, in that case what is the problem?

Yes he can.

Classic and Modern Thor are one in the same.

#61 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: Thor cannot? He lost that power?

#62 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@xxxddd: Thor cannot? He lost that power?

He only lost the power of time travel.

#63 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: Thats the one, thanks

#64 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Your welcome.

#65 Posted by Deranged Midget (17855 posts) - - Show Bio

For the most part, I liked how he was represented yes. Hemsworth was a good choice for Thor, but I found that he was extremely under-used in the Avengers. Actually, for the most part, he felt quite under-powered.

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#66 Posted by Vitality (1770 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it. I like how the Avengers movie showed his physical strength. Ironman...even at 400% power...could barely hold his own with Thor. The fight with Hulk on the carrier...Thor held his own against a Hulk trying to kill...while Thor was obviously holding back.

#67 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: I guess he was under used, but it would have been boring to non-thor fans otherwise I think.@Vitality: I agree with this all.

#68 Posted by Deranged Midget (17855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Boring? How so? To me, he was extremely toned down in terms of power. I don't see Warner doing the same with Superman nor did Marvel weaken the Hulk. It just didn't seem to do Thor justice.

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#69 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: When you put it like that, It makes complete sense.

#70 Posted by BigCimmerian (8708 posts) - - Show Bio

I like and dislike movie Thor, he is potrayed very well, but he is too weak compared to comics.

#71 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: @Deranged Midget: You mean like the fact he can only blast people with lightning?

#72 Posted by BigCimmerian (8708 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@BigCimmerian: @Deranged Midget: You mean like the fact he can only blast people with lightning?

Yes and no, he was physically much weaker than in comics. One punch from Hulk shouldn't draw blood from Thor. He couldn't teleport without Heimdall, he was struggling to break that SHIELD's cell etc. In his own movie I think that Thor was better than in Avengers.

#73 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: That Heimdall scene was the stupidest part of the entire movie.

@xxxddd said:

Stupidest part in the Thor movie was how Thor needed Heimdall could teleport, Thor already has the power of teleportation.

And for those who think Thor can't teleport. Well,

By swinging his hammer in a circle, Thor can open up portals that allow him to traverse space and time, shown as how he travels from Earth to Asgard and vice versa, from Journey Into Mystery #103.

Thor's hammer transcends both space and time, from Thor #393.

Here, he sends the Masters of Evil through a space warp in Avengers #7.

Thor can also transport large objects. Here, he teleports an entire nuclear power plant away and its foundations to a dead world in Thor #393.

Thor can appear in the universe or entire dimensions WITHIN MOMENTS, from Fantastic Four #339.

and Thor #166.

Mjolnir's teleportive range is also virtually limitless. Here, he transports the possessed Warriors Three from the edge of the universe back to Asgard in Thor #185.

And if that's a little vague, the narration here specifically tells us Thor teleports millions of light years away, from Fantastic Four #338.

Mjolnir can also teleport between dimensions. Here, Thor sends innocent bystanders to Limbo to fight Durok the Demolisher alone in Thor #192.

While traveling at "a speed that is far greater than light," mjolnir creates a infinity vortex that teleports Kang the Conquerer and his time machine to a location outside time, from Thor #140.

Mjolnir could also transport several people to several different locations simultaneously, from Avengers #70.

Here he travels to Dormammu's Dark Dimension in Thor Annual #9.

Here, Mjolnir opens up a portal to the Negative Zone in Avengers #309.

Thor teleports the Destroyer Armor light years away(after Thor nearly gets killed by it), from Thor vol. 2 #2.

#74 Posted by OmegaTheDestroyer (1009 posts) - - Show Bio

Hemsworth plays him wonderfully

He is depicted to be quite underpowered to my liking I would have to say.

And I want more helmet.

#75 Edited by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

He makes a good Thor but he does not get nearly big enough as far as muscularity nor lean enough as far as bodyfat %.are concerned.

I also like his power level and limited, Ulltimate-universe-type, Mjolnir-based abilities in the movies.

#76 Posted by Fernando072295REBORN (502 posts) - - Show Bio

It's disgusting to see him job to his inferiors just so they can look good. The avengers movie to me was like a sunday morning cartoon tbh It was entertaining enough, but I don't plan on watching it...ever again lol. *shrug* I don't judge anyone who did like it, becauselike I said it had plenty of action and not everyone is as extremist about Thor as I am thankfully, but since I am, I had a hard time enjoying it. I guarantee you no one would have thought it was as funny if Thor had just cheap shot Hulk, like Hulk did Thor. But ah well.

#77 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fernando072295REBORN:

this..... thor is treated like a dumb character no respect......

he is the mighty thor.. a god yet he is happy slapped like a fool.. by hulk cant wait to see how they will humiliate him in part 2.....

#78 Posted by Fernando072295REBORN (502 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin: For real dude. Is it honestly so bad to just let Thor get his licks in outside of the comicverse on Hulk? I mean damn, hulk TAS, Hulk vs Thor, Ultimate Avengers, Avengers Earth's mightiest heroes season 1 & 2, avengers movie, all have Hulk either beating Thor or gaining a noticeable edge on him. It's ridiculous.

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#79 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

makes me super angry.... i mean its like marvel has no regard for thor fans...... one time out of 5 it would be nice to see thor win......

i actually dislike hulk..... very one dimensional character, he should not be allowed to be stronger than a god

#80 Edited by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally find that most depictions of Thor, the movies included don't do him justice. Few mediums give us the Thor we should get

#81 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@Asagod said:

Many people use the fact that Hulk defeated Loki in 3 seconds to say that Hulk was better than Thor. But what most people forget is the fact that when fighting against Thor, Loki has had the scepter; and when Loki fought against Hulk, he didn't had it. Loki was also probably stunned, for he did fell after the explosion of Hawkeye's arrow. Another point is that Thor was clearly holding back against both Iron Man and Loki. Thor also held back against the Hulk, he tried to talk with Banner but fight him.

I don't think he is holding back when he fights against Ironman and Hulk.

At scene where Thor fighting Iron Man, and he grabbed Ironman Wrists....his facial expression shows that he is quite struggle while grabbing Ironman wrist ( At that time i was like, What?! Thor has trouble bending Alloy now?)

Besides, When he fought the Hulk, He uses 2 hands just to block Hulk's incoming punch?...and he shown sign of struggle too...that doesn't looks like a man who trying to hold back.

If you were trying to hold back during a fight, you will need to let your opponent knows that you have mercy on him, hope that he will know he is no match, and just stop fighting.

#82 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@Asagod said:

Many people use the fact that Hulk defeated Loki in 3 seconds to say that Hulk was better than Thor. But what most people forget is the fact that when fighting against Thor, Loki has had the scepter; and when Loki fought against Hulk, he didn't had it. Loki was also probably stunned, for he did fell after the explosion of Hawkeye's arrow. Another point is that Thor was clearly holding back against both Iron Man and Loki. Thor also held back against the Hulk, he tried to talk with Banner but fight him.

I don't think he is holding back when he fights against Ironman and Hulk.

At scene where Thor fighting Iron Man, and he grabbed Ironman Wrists....his facial expression shows that he is quite struggle while grabbing Ironman wrist ( At that time i was like, What?! Thor has trouble bending Alloy now?)

Besides, When he fought the Hulk, He uses 2 hands just to block Hulk's incoming punch?...and he shown sign of struggle too...that doesn't looks like a man who trying to hold back.

If you were trying to hold back during a fight, you will need to let your opponent knows that you have mercy on him, hope that he will know he is no match, and just stop fighting.

True

hulk smashed him, he struggled with iron man......

also how can a hammer which smashed the rainbow bridge.... and caused earthquakes and tidal waves be blocked but captain America's shield and arm,?? lest say yes the shield is indestructible, but his arm shouldnt be able to block such a blow.

and hulk embarassed thor...... marvel are soooooooooooooooo biased to hulk even though they made hulk beat up thor in the helcarrier, the still made hulk silly punch him after..... thor was the joke character.....

did i mention how much i hate marvel

#83 Posted by Asagod (292 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@Asagod said:

Many people use the fact that Hulk defeated Loki in 3 seconds to say that Hulk was better than Thor. But what most people forget is the fact that when fighting against Thor, Loki has had the scepter; and when Loki fought against Hulk, he didn't had it. Loki was also probably stunned, for he did fell after the explosion of Hawkeye's arrow. Another point is that Thor was clearly holding back against both Iron Man and Loki. Thor also held back against the Hulk, he tried to talk with Banner but fight him.

I don't think he is holding back when he fights against Ironman and Hulk.

At scene where Thor fighting Iron Man, and he grabbed Ironman Wrists....his facial expression shows that he is quite struggle while grabbing Ironman wrist ( At that time i was like, What?! Thor has trouble bending Alloy now?)

Besides, When he fought the Hulk, He uses 2 hands just to block Hulk's incoming punch?...and he shown sign of struggle too...that doesn't looks like a man who trying to hold back.

If you were trying to hold back during a fight, you will need to let your opponent knows that you have mercy on him, hope that he will know he is no match, and just stop fighting.

In the fight against Iron Man, he clearly held back. When Captain America arrived, Thor punched Iron Man with Mjolnir and, Knocked him out. When he smashes Iron Man's Armor Wrists, his face shows anger and not "trouble".

  • He was trying to talk with Hulk.
  • He didn't blasted Hulk with lightnings.
  • Just look at Thor's face after Hulk's punch. He's not showing to be admired with Hulk's strength.
#84 Posted by Asagod (292 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@Asagod said:

Many people use the fact that Hulk defeated Loki in 3 seconds to say that Hulk was better than Thor. But what most people forget is the fact that when fighting against Thor, Loki has had the scepter; and when Loki fought against Hulk, he didn't had it. Loki was also probably stunned, for he did fell after the explosion of Hawkeye's arrow. Another point is that Thor was clearly holding back against both Iron Man and Loki. Thor also held back against the Hulk, he tried to talk with Banner but fight him.

I don't think he is holding back when he fights against Ironman and Hulk.

At scene where Thor fighting Iron Man, and he grabbed Ironman Wrists....his facial expression shows that he is quite struggle while grabbing Ironman wrist ( At that time i was like, What?! Thor has trouble bending Alloy now?)

Besides, When he fought the Hulk, He uses 2 hands just to block Hulk's incoming punch?...and he shown sign of struggle too...that doesn't looks like a man who trying to hold back.

If you were trying to hold back during a fight, you will need to let your opponent knows that you have mercy on him, hope that he will know he is no match, and just stop fighting.

True

hulk smashed him, he struggled with iron man......

also how can a hammer which smashed the rainbow bridge.... and caused earthquakes and tidal waves be blocked but captain America's shield and arm,?? lest say yes the shield is indestructible, but his arm shouldnt be able to block such a blow.

His arm would obviously resist. The movie version of Captain America's shield deflectes all heat and kinetic force:

Jump to 1min 10sec (when Iron Man blasts Captain America's shield).

@cmartin said:

True

hulk smashed him, he struggled with iron man......

and hulk embarassed thor...... marvel are soooooooooooooooo biased to hulk even though they made hulk beat up thor in the helcarrier, the still made hulk silly punch him after..... thor was the joke character.....

did i mention how much i hate marvel

The fight didn't ended, so there's no winner here.

#85 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@Asagod said:

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@Asagod said:

Many people use the fact that Hulk defeated Loki in 3 seconds to say that Hulk was better than Thor. But what most people forget is the fact that when fighting against Thor, Loki has had the scepter; and when Loki fought against Hulk, he didn't had it. Loki was also probably stunned, for he did fell after the explosion of Hawkeye's arrow. Another point is that Thor was clearly holding back against both Iron Man and Loki. Thor also held back against the Hulk, he tried to talk with Banner but fight him.

I don't think he is holding back when he fights against Ironman and Hulk.

At scene where Thor fighting Iron Man, and he grabbed Ironman Wrists....his facial expression shows that he is quite struggle while grabbing Ironman wrist ( At that time i was like, What?! Thor has trouble bending Alloy now?)

Besides, When he fought the Hulk, He uses 2 hands just to block Hulk's incoming punch?...and he shown sign of struggle too...that doesn't looks like a man who trying to hold back.

If you were trying to hold back during a fight, you will need to let your opponent knows that you have mercy on him, hope that he will know he is no match, and just stop fighting.

In the fight against Iron Man, he clearly held back. When Captain America arrived, Thor punched Iron Man with Mjolnir and, Knocked him out. When he smashes Iron Man's Armor Wrists, his face shows anger and not "trouble".

  • He was trying to talk with Hulk.
  • He didn't blasted Hulk with lightnings.
  • Just look at Thor's face after Hulk's punch. He's not showing to be admired with Hulk's strength.

Sorry, but I am going to disagree.

If his intention is to stop Iron Man from fighting him, he could just tear the armor apart, that wouldn't hurt Tony. If not, He could just quickly overpowered IM when he 1st grabbed his wrist. I think if Thor is that strong in the movie, he could just put him down instantly (I guess a Grown Adult wouldn't have much trouble to make a child stop fighting)

He can lightning strikes Hulk, cuz that will hurts everyone on board...I am sure he didn't have the Pin Point Accuracy (He didn't show feat) The Hulk did makes him bleed after the punch. Anyway, He still using 2 hands to block hulk's punch, that shows that he is not strong enough to handle Hulk.

Although in Thor Solo movie, he did showed some amazing feats such as he travels to Jotunheim to fight with the frost giants....that is the best action scene in the whole movie.

Enjoy :)

#86 Posted by Selinaky (677 posts) - - Show Bio

The Jotunheim seen is the most awesome and powerful Thor showing in any of the movies, in my opinion. It's especially cool when he spins Mjolnir.

#87 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

So he can stop hulk with 2 hands but struggles with iron mans wrist? true story bro.

#88 Posted by 80sBaby (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

He didn't "struggle" with Ironman. He was casually crusing his armor with one-hand. Cap blocking him wasn't a low showing, either. And he had a good showing against Hulk in the Hellicarrier. Hulk stronger and Thor's more powerful. That's the way it's always been and ever shall be.

#89 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan: weak.. no strength... all hammer ...... the fighting looked gabage...... thor was put on his bck easily

garbage movie

#90 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin: I would not say that.

#91 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby: this, How can people say he struggles vs iron man.

#92 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: his strength has been insulted my only concern and he is reall y not that big just tall

#93 Posted by TheGodofThunder (599 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone needs to watch the thor/hulk fight again. He catches hulks arm with ONE hand and then puts the other arm over top of Hulks arm. He used only ONE hand to block Hulks punch. It is clear as day!

#94 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan: Very nice post

#95 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@sommyt said:

@Pyrogram: his strength has been insulted my only concern and he is reall y not that big just tall

I did not mind, the actor was fine so its rather that than a large guy who is bad at acting personally.

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