Without his hammer could he still fight his enemies and win as he did with his hammer?
Thor
Character » Thor appears in 8593 issues.
Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.
Thor fight without mjolnir
Thor has a stonger God-Force Then His hammer. His magic and etc are actually stronger then what the hammer gives him.
But I think he could be the vast majority without his hammer
@Pyrogram said:
@Edm28 said:
Have you à exemple of à character who has the same power of thor (without his hammer)Hulk.
Any brick character ever.
He'd have a good deal more trouble with high heralds and anything above that would be a loss pretty much.
@Decoy Elite said:
@Pyrogram said:
@Edm28 said:
Have you à exemple of à character who has the same power of thor (without his hammer)Hulk.
Any brick character ever.
This,
Mjolnir is Thor's "X-Factor". Its his edge that places him amongst the other true heavy hitters and, if written up, sometimes allows him to punch out of his league. Without it he is vastly reduced in effectiveness.
Similar X-Factors for other characters would be speed and extreme mobility for Superman, dynamic powerlevel/regeneration for Hulk, the ability to pull powers out of his ass for the Silver Surfer etc.
Thor could and has defeated many of his foes and sparring partners without his hammer. Thor has many enemies who have great to vast power beyond his physical ability to match. It's against those foes that Thor relies more on his hammer and the incredible variety of powers it provides to him.
@Fernando072295REBORN said:
What's the story behind that? Because don't forget when ever hulk isn't whole he becomes a lot weaker, and even when he's whole Grey hulk was only ever as strong as The Thing and Savage Hulk isn't as strong as WW Hulk after his empowerment. And Thor has mjolnir there if you think he doesn't.
@Pyrogram said:
@Edm28 said:
Have you à exemple of à character who has the same power of thor (without his hammer)Hulk.
Thor can't beat Hulk without his hammer.
@Pyrogram: Well I would just look to common sense based on their past fights.... Thor acknowledges the power of the Hulk and doesn't considering him an easy opponent. He clearly looks strained in all of their conflicts.
Also one time Hulk got Thor to put down his hammer and then Hulk kicked his ass...
@Pyrogram: Battle aside the dialog is pretty clear... Hulk was as good as new at the end of a rather short fight while Thor was tired and roughed up. Thor's reaction to after the Hulk leaves is also pretty clear he's ashamed that he couldn't beat Hulk without his Hammer...
I guess if you're counter argument is "it doesn't matter" I can't really argue with that...
I love when posters and fans use words like clearly and obviously and when you ask the writers of particular stories referenced and creators of characters they often say the opposite. As for how Thor fights without his hammer? One particularly influential editor of multiple Thor books has gone on the record, that Thor is as with his hammer and without. I don't necessary agree but thats the thing. Thor. Is. A. Fictional. Character. It really depends how you read and understand Thor. Myself I consider Thor's ability to fight depends more on his motivation. I mean one time Puma was able to escape Thor and easily dodged his hammer blows. Then again... Thor was only try to trip him up and not blow a hole through his chest. Then again consider Durok, a character Thor's hammer blows did nothing to, and Silver Surfer couldn't really hurt either. He had removed from the battle instead... yet Thor killed him sans hammer with a god blast. Then again Thor was okay with killing him. Thor's options are cut down with his hammer, but not his most potent attack. Then again because its actually super important to note, he is fictional, so always depends.
@Edm28: no prob :D
@TheGodofThunder: It's from avengers season 1. It came with the DVD/Blur Ray combo special for the avengers, but is indeed canon.
@Teerack: I made the video...you think that I don't know he had his hammer with him lol? But if you'd watched it, you'd see he was still able to overpower both the Gravage Hulk and the Gray Hulk. Which is a hell of a feat.
@Teerack: Well seeing as how most of the fight he schooled both of them without it, I don't see the problem...
He's just always fought with a weapon of some sort, usually Mjolnir. But the fight above in Thor 385 was cool. I like the Disassembled arc where Thor with the Odin force decimates Durok, a foe he and the Surfer together previously could not put down, so Surfer BFR'd him. Thor is a beast when written properly.
What is brick ?
A brick is a character whose only powers are drastically enhanced physical stats: superhuman strength and durability. Luke Cage and Hercules are two examples of bricks. The Hulk is usually considered one as well since his primary powers are strength and durability healing. Characters like Superman and Wonderman are sometimes called flying bricks because their primary powers are physical stats plus being able to fly.
He's just always fought with a weapon of some sort, usually Mjolnir. But the fight above in Thor 385 was cool. I like the Disassembled arc where Thor with the Odin force decimates Durok, a foe he and the Surfer together previously could not put down, so Surfer BFR'd him. Thor is a beast when written properly.
Just to be clear Thor did not have the Odinpower when he killed Durok. Thor called upon his own godly power to reduce him to a skeleton. Thor lost the Odinpower at the start of Disassembled and had not yet earned it back yet.
@x_titans: This is something that depends on the writer, but usually and currently, yes he does have weather manipulation without the hammer.
Does Thor still have his weather manipulation powers without Mjolnir? I would think that he would retain a degree of them as he is the 'God of Thunder'.
At the very least he can call down lighting strikes. He has shown that a few times over the decades, but like TheGodOfThunder said it heavily depends on the writer. At worst without Mjolnir in a sense you have Hercules. At best you have someone with similar physical stats as that with a bonus of energy attacks that can hurt someone on that level.
@Pyrogram: Battle aside the dialog is pretty clear... Hulk was as good as new at the end of a rather short fight while Thor was tired and roughed up. Thor's reaction to after the Hulk leaves is also pretty clear he's ashamed that he couldn't beat Hulk without his Hammer...
I guess if you're counter argument is "it doesn't matter" I can't really argue with that...
Hulk did not kick his ass ...i think Thor is physically stronger based on feats alone ..yes
but the hulk cannot be put down in a physicall fight**amazing healingfactor and yes thor looked more roughed up ..cauz hulk has a healingfactor. so he will keep coming back....but which one of hulks strength feats surpass Thors?? in his last comic Thor casually held a planet together with his bare hands..and his blows where destroying worlds @teerack
@Pyrogram: Battle aside the dialog is pretty clear... Hulk was as good as new at the end of a rather short fight while Thor was tired and roughed up. Thor's reaction to after the Hulk leaves is also pretty clear he's ashamed that he couldn't beat Hulk without his Hammer...
I guess if you're counter argument is "it doesn't matter" I can't really argue with that...
Hulk did not kick his ass ...i think Thor is physically stronger based on feats alone ..yes
but the hulk cannot be put down in a physicall fight**amazing healingfactor and yes thor looked more roughed up ..cauz hulk has a healingfactor. so he will keep coming back....but which one of hulks strength feats surpass Thors?? in his last comic Thor casually held a planet together with his bare hands..and his blows where destroying worlds @teerack
I don't read post when people respond to me from something over 3 months ago.
Here's him levitating in the air without his hammer:
Anyone wanting to see his real feats without mjornir check this thread out which has lots of fights without Thor using his hammer in battle:
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