Thor and superman

Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

who really is stronger.??? and explain ...no retarded superman can lift a planet Thor has shown such like feats ..so this is with feats and capabilities

#1 Edited by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

Reeve/Dooner Superman beats movie Thor, he is simply faster, with better feats of power

Routh Singer Superman Return 2006 is considered non canon with many fans, also Routh never threw a single punch in the whole movie

DCAU Superman vs EMH Thor, this probably goes to the Marvel animated cartoon because he had impressive feats. A big magic charged strike should kill Superman outright

Comicbook Thor vs comic Supes, perhaps Superman, he is fast enough to dodge most of Thor's blows and blitz him with multiple punches. Also comicbook Thor was toned down getting jobbered by modern writers such as Bendis, Liefeld, JimLee, Busiek

#2 Posted by THORSON (2488 posts) - - Show Bio

THOR when he isn;t holding back. but superman is generally stronger.

#3 Posted by THORSON (2488 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade:

THOR easily beat the giants, destoyer, loki and smashed the bridge.

superman didn't really have any feats because all he fought against was lex and a robot and he didn't seem that powerful.

#4 Posted by TrueMarvel (204 posts) - - Show Bio

Myth Bust: Superman is not faster than Thor.

Thor is as OP if not more OP then superman. The difference is, Marvel writers don't write him to his fill potential, or simply use great amounts of Plot inducced stupidity to downplay his powers. Also asgardian law prevents him from using his full strength on opponents who weaker than he, he is oly allowed to use full power on foes of equal status(power wise). the lawGreatly restricts him. It's marvel's excuse to justify downplaying his power.

  • Thor has unlimited strength. Its not incalcuable. Its unlimited. Superman has the potentail to have unlimited strength, but it is dependent on the sun.
  • Thor can move at extreme speeds. Thor can fly to the sun in a matter of minutes. He can throw Mjolnir at the speed of light and also swing Mjolnir at TWICE the speed of light with his powers reduced in half. It has been established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both Time & Space. In addition, Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds . Thor could visually detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire and when he saw the speedy hermes). Superman is not faster than thor
  • Thor has centuries of military combat expereince. As a god of war he know every acient norse martial art and can instantly master any Martial Art he chooses.
  • Thor is magic

There is not on clear advantage superman has on thor. Thor is also of genius intellect, but writers do not depict him as such due to Plot induced stupidity. Thor in actuality is one of the greatest military strategist in the history of the universe, and his human host, Donald Blake is a genius level doctor.

#5 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@TrueMarvel said:

Myth Bust: Superman is not faster than Thor.

Thor is as OP if not more OP then superman. The difference is, Marvel writers don't write him to his fill potential, or simply use great amounts of Plot inducced stupidity to downplay his powers. Also asgardian law prevents him from using his full strength on opponents who weaker than he, he is oly allowed to use full power on foes of equal status(power wise). the lawGreatly restricts him. It's marvel's excuse to justify downplaying his power.

  • Thor has unlimited strength. Its not incalcuable. Its unlimited. Superman has the potentail to have unlimited strength, but it is dependent on the sun.
  • Thor can move at extreme speeds. Thor can fly to the sun in a matter of minutes. He can throw Mjolnir at the speed of light and also swing Mjolnir at TWICE the speed of light with his powers reduced in half. It has been established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both Time & Space. In addition, Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds . Thor could visually detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire and when he saw the speedy hermes). Superman is not faster than thor
  • Thor has centuries of military combat expereince. As a god of war he know every acient norse martial art and can instantly master any Martial Art he chooses.
  • Thor is magic

There is not on clear advantage superman has on thor. Thor is also of genius intellect, but writers do not depict him as such due to Plot induced stupidity. Thor in actuality is one of the greatest military strategist in the history of the universe, and his human host, Donald Blake is a genius level doctor.

This.

#6 Edited by Teerack (7076 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahaha Superman is so much stronger it's not even something you can argue.

Thor's power is also not unlimited. :V

#7 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade: we aren't talking about about movie versions

#8 Posted by Pyrogram (40934 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

Hahaha Superman is so much stronger it's not even something you can argue.

Thor's power is also not unlimited. :V

Well, technically it is, he has not shown an upper limit.

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#9 Posted by Selinaky (677 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of speed and strength alone, Superman wins, he's insanely strong.

If we include Mjolnir/weather abilities and Supes abilites, it's more even and could go either way. It would be a long and epic fight anyway.

#10 Posted by Fifthchild (618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Teerack said:

Hahaha Superman is so much stronger it's not even something you can argue.

Thor's power is also not unlimited. :V

Well, technically it is, he has not shown an upper limit.

Thor has shown an upper limit lots of times. He needed Bill's help to lift Asgard for instance.

#11 Edited by Teerack (7076 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fifthchild said:

@Pyrogram said:

@Teerack said:

Hahaha Superman is so much stronger it's not even something you can argue.

Thor's power is also not unlimited. :V

Well, technically it is, he has not shown an upper limit.

Thor has shown an upper limit lots of times. He needed Bill's help to lift Asgard for instance.

Yeah. Superman bench pressed weight five times the weight of earth for FIVE WHOLE DAYS and he only broke a minor sweat, and it was stated that this is still no where near his upper limits. While Thor has been showing straining himself doing much easier things. A reorccuing theme of Superman's powers has been that he is a man without limits.

#12 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: Superhuman Strength: In addition to being the God of Thunder, Thor is also the Asgardian God of Strength, as such he is physically the strongest of the Asgardian gods and one of the most powerful beings in the Universe. His strength has been called unlimited. His feats include easily lifting over a millions tons without any effort, crumbling Uru into dust, defeating and overpowering superhumans as strong and powerful as the Silver Surfer, Namor, Juggernaut, Hercules, the Hulk, the Red Hulk, the Sentry, andGladiator in single combat, lifting the Midgard Serpent, who was large enough to coil around the Earth from head to tail multiple times over and crush it in its grip., overpowering cosmic entities when pressed in battle and physically destroying stars, planets, and moons with only his fists. Thor also possesses a magical belt that doubles his natural strength. Thor is also capable of entering into a state of Berserker Rage known as Warrior's Madness, which will temporarily increase his strength and stamina tenfold but will only do so in desperate situations because it threatens his sanity.

#13 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: Despite the fact that he always restrains and holds back his infinite strength against mortals, he has been capable of stalemating an enraged Hulk in strength (note: Thor has the ability to overpower the Hulk). Thor is capable of knocking out the Hulk, How much strength Thor truly holds back against mortals is made clear, as he was capable of knocking out Namor with a single blow (despite Namor being fully hydrated and it was raining), easily defeating Bi-Beast (whose strength is said to equal the Hulk's), easily overpower the Red Hulk (who killed the Abomination, overpowered the Hulk, punched and injuring Uatu, killed the Grandmaster, and was able to absorb the Power Cosmic), nearly rendering the Juggernaut unconscious in under a minute after negating his mystical defenses, and defeated both the Thing and an enraged Hulk at once in unarmed combat using only his vast physical strength. Despite pass battles with the Hulk Thor is physically stronger then the hulk as Thor is capable of infinite strength.

#14 Edited by Teerack (7076 posts) - - Show Bio

@sommyt: So basically you think Thor stands a change for beating a bunch of other characters that Superman would beat even easier then he could beat Thor.

#15 Posted by Bushwhacker_ (576 posts) - - Show Bio

@TrueMarvel said:

Myth Bust: Superman is not faster than Thor.

Thor is as OP if not more OP then superman. The difference is, Marvel writers don't write him to his fill potential, or simply use great amounts of Plot inducced stupidity to downplay his powers. Also asgardian law prevents him from using his full strength on opponents who weaker than he, he is oly allowed to use full power on foes of equal status(power wise). the lawGreatly restricts him. It's marvel's excuse to justify downplaying his power.

  • Thor has unlimited strength. Its not incalcuable. Its unlimited. Superman has the potentail to have unlimited strength, but it is dependent on the sun.
  • Thor can move at extreme speeds. Thor can fly to the sun in a matter of minutes. He can throw Mjolnir at the speed of light and also swing Mjolnir at TWICE the speed of light with his powers reduced in half. It has been established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both Time & Space. In addition, Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds . Thor could visually detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire and when he saw the speedy hermes). Superman is not faster than thor
  • Thor has centuries of military combat expereince. As a god of war he know every acient norse martial art and can instantly master any Martial Art he chooses.
  • Thor is magic

There is not on clear advantage superman has on thor. Thor is also of genius intellect, but writers do not depict him as such due to Plot induced stupidity. Thor in actuality is one of the greatest military strategist in the history of the universe, and his human host, Donald Blake is a genius level doctor.

Ah can go with this.

#16 Posted by New_World_Order (13290 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor.

#17 Posted by Fifthchild (618 posts) - - Show Bio

@sommyt said:

@Teerack: Superhuman Strength: In addition to being the God of Thunder, Thor is also the Asgardian God of Strength, as such he is physically the strongest of the Asgardian gods and one of the most powerful beings in the Universe. His strength has been called unlimited. His feats include easily lifting over a millions tons without any effort, crumbling Uru into dust, defeating and overpowering .......

@sommyt said:

@Teerack: Despite the fact that he always restrains and holds back his infinite strength against mortals, he has been capable of stalemating an enraged Hulk in strength (note: Thor has the ability to overpower the Hulk). Thor is capable of knocking out the Hulk, How much strength Thor truly holds back against mortals is made clear, as he ....

all of this is monstrously biased and often flat out inaccurate.

#18 Posted by boostergold321 (301 posts) - - Show Bio

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I’ve heard it said that Superman is a hard character to write for, since he’s so powerful and finding a good foe or challenge for him can be something of a task. I say, “Bull!” Writing for Superman is EXTREMELY easy! You can tell how easy it is if you read some of his graphic novels or watch some of his movies, because they all tend to do at least ONE of the following five things–usually more.

1. Make a lot of allusions to Superman being like Jesus. Because, you know, Superman and Jesus are totally alike. Personally, my favorite parts of the Bible are when Jesus busts through the walls of the Hebrew temple, melts the swords of the Romans with his heat vision, and freezes the Sea of Galilee with his ice breath right before walking out on it. Therefore, be sure to toss in all kinds of allusions to how Kal-El is like the Son of God. It makes perfect sense. Last of an extinct alien race raised on Earth by adoptive parents to grow up and become an indestructible man flying around in his pajamas vs. one-third of a triune, creator deity, born of a virgin, sent to die for the salvation of mankind. To-may-to, to-mah-to.

Perfect!

2. Give Superman some kind of power, skill, or ability on a deistic level. It’s a common misconception that Superman is too powerful. He’s actually not powerful enough. Being bulletproof, the ability to fly, vision powers, breath powers, super speed, super strength–all child’s play. When you’re writing your story, feel free to make some new power up. Anything. Actually, the bigger the better. We’ve seen new powers as small as erasing memories with a kiss, to as large as creating alternate universes inside the Fortress of Solitude. Feel free to go beyond that, even (though it is tough to think about going much bigger than creating LIFE). The beauty of understanding this about Superman is that he’s a walking deus ex machina. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to write yourself into any corner with this guy.

. . . and fanboys everywhere will call your schlock "brilliant."

3. Destroy the Fortress of Solitude. Oh yeah, it’s got to go. First, don’t ask yourself if it’s been destroyed before–not important. Just blow the damn thing up. Have someone trash it. Have a meteor smash it. Have a ball! What’s a Fortress of Solitude if Superman is alone there all the time and no one knows about it? Make it common knowledge, and then have them DESTROY IT. Couldn’t be simpler. And be sure to get to it quick, too. Don’t waste your precious story time establishing it as a true place of refuge for the Man of Steel. Just assume everyone already knows about it, have the bad guy show up, and BOOM goes the fortress. Observe below:

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Now you win!!

4. Have some Kryptonians show up. It’s really very logical when you think about it. Part of Superman’s character is there’s a deep lonliness in him because his entire race, his entire planet, no longer exists. He’s the last Kryptonian. So what better twist than to have some stray Kryptonians show up? I mean, if General Zod was such a huge hit, then MORE Kryptonians equals Superman story gold! Yet we can’t have EVERYONE come out of the Phantom Zone. Just say they were wandering the galaxy somehow or somewhere. Without a spaceship. Oh, sure, there’s the fact that Superman gets his power because of the light from our yellow sun, so Kryptonians wandering around in space away from yellow stars doesn’t actually make any sense–but so what? Just write it.

Pictured: The Opposite of Extinct

5. Do not, under any circumstances, bother with the difference between “dark and brooding” and “confident and serious.” No one likes a hero who has it all together, right? I mean, since the mid-1970′s, all of our heroes in comic books and action movies have been nothing but good-hearted, charming, stand-up citizens. . . . BORing. We need heroes that are conflicted and moody and lonely and disturbed and, oh what’s that word the kids are using these days . . . “emo.” The point of all of this is to help you understand how writing for Superman is easy, so trying to figure out the right balance between smiling altruist and “humanity” is out of the question. That’s too hard. That would require paying attention to his motivations to justify non-happy emotions, like anger. Instead, just make him dark and angry all the time, OR make him really sad and whiny. Your choice!

This makes Supes in no way like any other superhero!

Now you know how to write the perfect Superman story! Mix and match these five tips and you are guaranteed a winner! Happy writing!

#19 Posted by ndm5 (474 posts) - - Show Bio

They are close in strength, Superman's speed advantage is just as significant as Thor's power advantage. Mjolnir has dozens of crazy powers that would help him win 50% of the fights.

#20 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@fifthchild: yes Thor has moved the world engine ... haha benching ur earth for 5 days is child's play lol

#21 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

This is gonna turn out bad, I'm a true Thor fan, but this will only end up the same way as a DBZ thread, always does.

#22 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Teerack said:

Hahaha Superman is so much stronger it's not even something you can argue.

Thor's power is also not unlimited. :V

Well, technically it is, he has not shown an upper limit.

Thor has shown an upper limit lots of times. He needed Bill's help to lift Asgard for instance.

hulk couldnt lift a mountain range only brace it..... .... so???

it depends on the writer..... relax...

#23 Posted by HaveAtThee (533 posts) - - Show Bio

Both characters, really, have incalculable strength and it's generally up to the whim of the writer who's writing them at the time. Both Silver Age incarnations of the characters were ridiculously powerful. These days not nearly as much, but still far more powerful than most of their contemporaries. I think the general theme is that DC has no ambiguity about having their heroes display incredible feats whereas Marvel is constantly obsessed about "bringing them down to Earth." Heck, I've even heard many Marvel fans say that DC overpowers their characters too much, so it's not even exclusive to guys like Thor and Superman.

#24 Posted by CaptnMcDeadpool (969 posts) - - Show Bio

Both characters, really, have incalculable strength and it's generally up to the whim of the writer who's writing them at the time. Both Silver Age incarnations of the characters were ridiculously powerful. These days not nearly as much, but still far more powerful than most of their contemporaries. I think the general theme is that DC has no ambiguity about having their heroes display incredible feats whereas Marvel is constantly obsessed about "bringing them down to Earth." Heck, I've even heard many Marvel fans say that DC overpowers their characters too much, so it's not even exclusive to guys like Thor and Superman.

I tend to agree with this. DC has no qualms about really showcasing their character's powers, whereas Marvel always seems to be trying to put a lid on it. I will say Jason Aaron seems to be writing a more aggressive Thor these days though. JMS's Thor was very powerful, in fact the most powerful version of Thor I'd seen in a few years. But generally, a lot depends on the writer.

#25 Posted by phisigmatau (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@boostergold321: absolutely hilarious and actually predicted the mos film

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