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#1 Edited by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

Recently people (on this Thor board) have been saying Thor is not being portrayed strong enough, or get upset when he does not do feats like he "should" Yer, I want him to batter people, but if you only read Thor for his strength, STOP reading Thor comics, Thor is more than just a brute..

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#2 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Agreed.

#3 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

Recently people (on this Thor board) have been saying Thor is not being portrayed strong enough, or get upset when he does not do feats like he "should" Yer, I want him to batter people, but if you only read Thor for his strength, STOP reading Thor comics, Thor is more than just a brute... If you want that go and read hulk or something.

I agree with all of that minus the last but. Hulk too is more than just a brute (when written well).

#4 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18060 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

Recently people (on this Thor board) have been saying Thor is not being portrayed strong enough, or get upset when he does not do feats like he "should" Yer, I want him to batter people, but if you only read Thor for his strength, STOP reading Thor comics, Thor is more than just a brute... If you want that go and read hulk or something.

while i agree on the thor part, i am really annoyed that you keep downgrading hulk and make him to be a superficial character, Hulk should not be read for brute strength and SMASH only.

#5 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@guttridgeb: @TheAcidSkull:

I was only making an example.

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#6 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18060 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@guttridgeb: @TheAcidSkull:

I was only making an example.

i understand that, but thor is just like the hulk, both seem to be brutes but they have more to there character than just mere POWER! you'd correct me too if i said the same thing about thor ;)

#7 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

@Pyrogram said:

@guttridgeb: @TheAcidSkull:

I was only making an example.

i understand that, but thor is just like the hulk, both seem to be brutes but they have more to there character than just mere POWER! you'd correct me too if i said the same thing about thor ;)

Hulk is more done for the strength though, I do not read Hulk so I cannot complain, that is the difference in this situation, people complain who read Thor but I cannot complain against Hulk as I do not read Hulk.

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#8 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34025 posts) - - Show Bio

They should concentrate on his prowess in battle, he's a Viking warrior he should be able to fight like one

#9 Posted by XLR87T3 (2926 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: Yeah. Give him a sword or an axe from time to time.

#10 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18060 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Ohhhhh, well i'm sorry then, but so you know Though there is a big difference between hulk and thor, neither are superficial, Hulk has been so much more than smash, especially during paks, peter davids and bill mantlos run :)

#11 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull: Thumbs up.

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#12 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18060 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@TheAcidSkull: Thumbs up.

Thumps up!

#13 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

#14 Posted by TheCannon (19041 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. There's much more to Thor than his strength.

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#15 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

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#16 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

using wiki....???? what does making a dumb accusation have to do with thors strength.. i want to see thor depicted like classic thor strong.... simple as that

#17 Posted by Z3RO180 (6633 posts) - - Show Bio

THOR SMASH

#18 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

using wiki....???? what does making a dumb accusation have to do with thors strength.. i want to see thor depicted like classic thor strong.... simple as that

If you have been reading comics which you obviously have not, "modern" Thor has higher feats. Go read a comic, simple as that.

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#19 Posted by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know. I've been following the new Thor stuff and I haven't been disappointed with his combat prowess. I mean, he's either been fighting Gorr the God-Slayer (who he logically should have a tough time against, since, y'know, God-Slayer) or he's been fighting Gorr's minions, which he wrecks. It's not a contest when he fights those things, it's extermination. There's never a point where you think, "oh no! This minion might actually take down Thor!" and there shouldn't be. They're mindless beasts, he's the eternal God of Thunder trained in the combat halls of the Norse pantheon. Simple as that.

#20 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

@End_Boss said:

I don't know. I've been following the new Thor stuff and I haven't been disappointed with his combat prowess. I mean, he's either been fighting Gorr the God-Slayer (who he logically should have a tough time against, since, y'know, God-Slayer) or he's been fighting Gorr's minions, which he wrecks. It's not a contest when he fights those things, it's extermination. There's never a point where you think, "oh no! This minion might actually take down Thor!" and there shouldn't be. They're mindless beasts, he's the eternal God of Thunder trained in the combat halls of the Norse pantheon. Simple as that.

I remember Gorr giving Young Thor a pretty hard time...

#21 Posted by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123: Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying! Gorr should totally give Thor a hard time (young, current, old, don't matter!). He's the villain of this arc, for one thing (and, I believe, is being set up in a nemesis position... Which is good. Thor needs more villains he has to actually try to beat down) and for another, the guy goes around murdering entire pantheons of gods just for kicks. He can't be a slouch in the combat department if he's pulling that off.

#22 Edited by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

using wiki....???? what does making a dumb accusation have to do with thors strength.. i want to see thor depicted like classic thor strong.... simple as that

If you have been reading comics which you obviously have not, "modern" Thor has higher feats. Go read a comic, simple as that.

you seem to be getting mad making personal that solves nothing... and i still would like to see modern thor use his fists and strength more.... if that upsets you.... have a cry in the bathtub tonight see if that helps

classic thor stalemated hulk in strength

lifted the midgard serpent etc

does anyone aside from pyrogram (he seems emotional at the moment) have ANY feats of modern thor doing anything strong.... feats without mjolnir....

please post

thanks

#23 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

using wiki....???? what does making a dumb accusation have to do with thors strength.. i want to see thor depicted like classic thor strong.... simple as that

If you have been reading comics which you obviously have not, "modern" Thor has higher feats. Go read a comic, simple as that.

you seem to be getting mad making personal that solves nothing... and i still would like to see modern thor use his fists and strength more.... if that upsets you.... have a cry in the bathtub tonight see if that helps

classic thor stalemated hulk in strength

lifted the midgard serpent etc

does anyone aside from pyrogram (he seems emotionalal at the moment) have ANY feats of modern thor doing anything strong.... feats without mjolnir....

please post

thanks

What do you define Modern, If you are a Thor fan you would realize they are the same Thor... Go read a comic.

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#24 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram said:

@cmartin said:

thor strongest of the norse gods... it would be nice to see strength every now and then

If you actually read a comic instead of using the Wiki you may see it...

using wiki....???? what does making a dumb accusation have to do with thors strength.. i want to see thor depicted like classic thor strong.... simple as that

If you have been reading comics which you obviously have not, "modern" Thor has higher feats. Go read a comic, simple as that.

you seem to be getting mad making personal that solves nothing... and i still would like to see modern thor use his fists and strength more.... if that upsets you.... have a cry in the bathtub tonight see if that helps

classic thor stalemated hulk in strength

lifted the midgard serpent etc

does anyone aside from pyrogram (he seems emotionalal at the moment) have ANY feats of modern thor doing anything strong.... feats without mjolnir....

please post

thanks

What do you define Modern, If you are a Thor fan you would realize they are the same Thor... Go read a comic.

kid please nearly everyone has made the distinction...

between classic and modern

I didnt click your link btw

istead oy hurling insults post up the scans please of modern thor performing feats anywhere in the realm of lifting the serpent, fighing hulk many time hand to hand and juggernaut, or kurse...

bad him and bill lifting asgard i cannot thing of anything else......

#26 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin: Why would I post scans when I linked you to a page FULL of scans...Do not be lazy.

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#27 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3265 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

Recently people (on this Thor board) have been saying Thor is not being portrayed strong enough, or get upset when he does not do feats like he "should" Yer, I want him to batter people, but if you only read Thor for his strength, STOP reading Thor comics, Thor is more than just a brute... If you want that go and read hulk or something.

I agree 100% with this. Thors best feats do not even involve his strength but his powers that are a variety. .

#28 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: ok let me go look for these strength feats... im a thor collector well up until a few months ago..got fed up of seen thor jobbed. and i know there havent been many epic strength feats (without mjolnir) bar when him a bill moved asgard... which pales to classic thor feats... thor should be doing tht on his own and he still used the hammer in a way.. anyway let me look

#29 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin said:

@Pyrogram: ok let me go look for these strength feats... im a thor collector well up until a few months ago..got fed up of seen thor jobbed. and i know there havent been many epic strength feats (without mjolnir) bar when him a bill moved asgard... which pales to classic thor feats... thor should be doing tht on his own and he still used the hammer in a way.. anyway let me look

You are one of the people this thread refers to, only reading for strength... This is a sad day for Thor fans..

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#30 Posted by comicace3 (6121 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Agreed.

#31 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

Well during AVX Thor was literally the only Avenger that was even capable of slowing the PF down, and the Phoenix is possibly more powerful than Galactus so him getting beat there wasn't nearly as humiliating as some people are claiming. But I understand because that arc pretty was pretty embarrassing to Marvel as a whole.

#32 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

read it all mjolnir.... not one feat without his hammer

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thors strength is a factor of the character.... id like to see it used...and his hand to hand skills... the way he is written nowadays is just like a guy with a hammer and thats it bash bahs bash with the hammer........ and once he loses the hammer he is trounced.....

this is the mighty thor... he fights hulk no hammer to stalemeate later in the issue he decided ENOUGH and pulls the hammer thats EPIC to me....

#33 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

when was the last time thor punched anyone.... or grappled...... as a fan reading and owning thor comics from the 70's alllllllll the way up i just dont like the direction thor has taken.....

#34 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin: Chill out, Classic Thor=Current Thor

This is not DC. (Pre and New 52)

#35 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic:

i know it isnt fact just a term most comic thor fans use.... as im sure you know....

he just is not written the same....

thats all Im saying

#36 Posted by Fifthchild (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Some Thor fans grew up with the notion that Thor was as strong as the Hulk or might even be stronger and so he was basically "the best at everything" more or less in the Marvel Universe. However, over the years Marvel has gone from playing up ambiguity over who might be stronger to coming down on the Hulk's side of the equation. Its rarer these days to see Thor depicted as a strongman and more common for writers to see him as a warrior with a magical weapon. Its probably more pronounced in other forms of media but it seems to be increasingly the case in the main comics universe also.

I dont think thats an unreasonable distinction in the way Marvel portrays the two (Hulk = strongman | Thor = warrior) but some people grew up picturing Thor as Superman plus a magical hammer and so they arent happy with him being portrayed as less of a physical powerhouse. For other fans its not as important.

#37 Edited by gravitypress (2069 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram:

While you are entitled to your opinion there have been great fluctuations recently in Thor's powers and personality. The people who make decisions at Marvel have also been making him a jobber more since his resurrection than his entire previous run combined. Nobody is saying he has to win all battles with one hit or anything but he shouldn't be disappointing either. To top it all off where the heck are his rogues gallery? I don't mind new bad guys to fight but I haven't seen him fight the usual fare in a years.

#38 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@gravitypress said:

@Pyrogram:

While you are entitled to your opinion there have been great fluctuations recently in Thor's powers and personality. The people who make decisions at Marvel have also been making him a jobber more since his resurrection than his entire previous run combined. Nobody is saying he has to win all battles with one hit or anything but he shouldn't be disappointing either. To top it all off where the heck are his rogues gallery? I don't mind new bad guys to fight but I haven't seen him fight the usual fare in a years.

That is a point, he has not fought his rouges for years...

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#39 Posted by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmartin: I agree don't compare classic thor and modern ....crap modern thor got whooped by emma frost .with a tiny bit of phoneix ..classic thor took on full powered jean grey and took her attacks like nothing. .classic Thor was a beast

#40 Edited by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@sommyt: Modern Thor jobs more, but has the highest feats. KOing galactus for example.

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#41 Edited by Selinaky (677 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with this. I love Thor's abilities, they're unique and awesome, but just as much a reason I like him is his personality, look and mythology. Even if he does job sometimes, Thor has shown some pretty amazing feats over the years anyway.

#42 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@Selinaky said:

I agree with this. I love Thor's abilities, they're unique and awesome, but just as much a reason I like him is his personality, look and mythology. Even if he does job sometimes, Thor has shown some pretty amazing feats over the years anyway.

This, His new title is the best Marvel Now anyways!

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#43 Posted by Sloucher (13 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Selinaky said:

I agree with this. I love Thor's abilities, they're unique and awesome, but just as much a reason I like him is his personality, look and mythology. Even if he does job sometimes, Thor has shown some pretty amazing feats over the years anyway.

This, His new title is the best Marvel Now anyways!

I agree with both of these.

#44 Posted by Sinfulplayerx (193 posts) - - Show Bio

I love both The Mighty Thor and The Indestructible Hulk for exactly the same reasons. Makes me sad in the pants when ignorant people down play them and accuse them of being one trick ponies. This is why "Respect Thread" are so much win. There is so much more to both these characters.

#45 Posted by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sinfulplayerx: well said

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#46 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: no offense, I understand where you're coming from, but you have to understand, that I grew up with Thor. He's been one of my favorites since I was a child, and I have to admit they've been writing him poorly lately,and their is adrop off in strength in comparison to what I'm used to seeing and this hurts me alot. What I do loike now is that they are letting the character explore his world and beyond in the Marvel Now title. I miss the character dealing with his own problem and just popping up in the Avengers title in times of need. They need to give him back his full power, he's not the beat up guy they made him out to be in AVX, he's the victim of horrible writing like Cyclops!

#47 Edited by Pyrogram (41151 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

@Pyrogram: no offense, I understand where you're coming from, but you have to understand, that I grew up with Thor. He's been one of my favorites since I was a child, and I have to admit they've been writing him poorly lately,and their is adrop off in strength in comparison to what I'm used to seeing and this hurts me alot. What I do loike now is that they are letting the character explore his world and beyond in the Marvel Now title. I miss the character dealing with his own problem and just popping up in the Avengers title in times of need. They need to give him back his full power, he's not the beat up guy they made him out to be in AVX, he's the victim of horrible writing like Cyclops!

I get that, but I am talking about the people liking him SOLEY for his strength.

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#48 Posted by Crackdown (605 posts) - - Show Bio

Ragnarok is rocking his strength, so that keeps me happy

#49 Posted by cmartin (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crackdown said:

Ragnarok is rocking his strength, so that keeps me happy

example?

#50 Posted by HaveAtThee (539 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm loving me some Jason Aaron/Esad Ribic Thor. He fights with purpose and skill, and there is a reason to everything. Feats of strength or power are nothing without a good story behind it. Aaron's Thor (as with JMS') is a noble, confident warrior god. Can't ask for more than that. I'm sure Aaron will include some awesome moments where Thor is able to truly cut loose. Not every single issue should be about Thor absorbing a star or shattering a moon.

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