How does this happen?

#1 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this PIS? I thought lifting Thor's hammer has NOTHING to do with strength? That you have to be worthy in order to lift it?

(in the movie), Hulk didn't beat Thor, btw.

m99

#2 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone?

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: It's a movie that's why, the same rules for Mjolinr don't apply.

#4 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@majestic99: It's a movie that's why, the same rules for Mjolinr don't apply.

Is this why movies aren't considered canon?

m99

#5 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@majestic99: It's a movie that's why, the same rules for Mjolinr don't apply.

Is this why movies aren't considered canon?

m99

It's because it's not apart of the mainstream.

#6 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

It's because it's not apart of the mainstream.

Because PIS happens more often in movies due to the fact that they often(if not all) the time depower Thor?

m99

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

It's because it's not apart of the mainstream.

Because PIS happens more often in movies due to the fact that they often(if not all) the time depower Thor?

m99

What do you mean by that?

#8 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

And this is the ultimate universe. That hammer was more based on Science than magic. And Thor was getting his butt handed to him in that movie. He might have stood up after that scene but he kept getting knocked around.

#9 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

And this is the ultimate universe. That hammer was more based on Science than magic. And Thor was getting his butt handed to him in that movie. He might have stood up after that scene but he kept getting knocked around.

Yeah, but Hulk shouldn't be able to beat Thor...at all.

@jeanroygrant said:

What do you mean by that?

The fact that in every tv show and movie, Thor is depowered. In Thor, all he can do is manipulate weather, In Hulk Vs, Wolverine put up a better fight than Thor(Thor was completely owned by Hulk), in Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Thor got his arse handed to him by Hulk and by others that he shouldn't have lost to. In the Avengers Movie, he can't even put down Iron Man.

m99

#10 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@Kallarkz said:

And this is the ultimate universe. That hammer was more based on Science than magic. And Thor was getting his butt handed to him in that movie. He might have stood up after that scene but he kept getting knocked around.

Yeah, but Hulk shouldn't be able to beat Thor...at all.

@jeanroygrant said:

What do you mean by that?

The fact that in every tv show and movie, Thor is depowered. In Thor, all he can do is manipulate weather, In Hulk Vs, Wolverine put up a better fight than Thor(Thor was completely owned by Hulk), in Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Thor got his arse handed to him by Hulk and by others that he shouldn't have lost to. In the Avengers Movie, he can't even put down Iron Man.

m99

Thor is actually written this way more often in comics books. In an upcoming book somehow he will be defeated by Hulk (Avengers Assemble), During Fear Itself he tells Hulk he could never beat him (that could be interpreted however the heck people want to I remember the thread about that but all i can mention is EXACTLY what Thor said), and in the last issue of Amazing Spider-Man he was impaled by Rhino with a tooth from the Midgard Serpent and was taken out immediately.

#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@Kallarkz said:

And this is the ultimate universe. That hammer was more based on Science than magic. And Thor was getting his butt handed to him in that movie. He might have stood up after that scene but he kept getting knocked around.

Yeah, but Hulk shouldn't be able to beat Thor...at all.

@jeanroygrant said:

What do you mean by that?

The fact that in every tv show and movie, Thor is depowered. In Thor, all he can do is manipulate weather, In Hulk Vs, Wolverine put up a better fight than Thor(Thor was completely owned by Hulk), in Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Thor got his arse handed to him by Hulk and by others that he shouldn't have lost to. In the Avengers Movie, he can't even put down Iron Man.

m99

Oh i swear he did put down Ironman :/

#12 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

Good. But my point is that Thor isn't written like Stan Lee wrote him anymore.

m99

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@majestic99 said:

@Kallarkz said:

And this is the ultimate universe. That hammer was more based on Science than magic. And Thor was getting his butt handed to him in that movie. He might have stood up after that scene but he kept getting knocked around.

Yeah, but Hulk shouldn't be able to beat Thor...at all.

@jeanroygrant said:

What do you mean by that?

The fact that in every tv show and movie, Thor is depowered. In Thor, all he can do is manipulate weather, In Hulk Vs, Wolverine put up a better fight than Thor(Thor was completely owned by Hulk), in Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Thor got his arse handed to him by Hulk and by others that he shouldn't have lost to. In the Avengers Movie, he can't even put down Iron Man.

m99

Thor is actually written this way more often in comics books. In an upcoming book somehow he will be defeated by Hulk (Avengers Assemble), During Fear Itself he tells Hulk he could never beat him (that could be interpreted however the heck people want to I remember the thread about that but all i can mention is EXACTLY what Thor said), and in the last issue of Amazing Spider-Man he was impaled by Rhino with a tooth from the Midgard Serpent and was taken out immediately.

How do you know Thor will be defeated in Avengers Asembled?

#14 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

You mean Avengers EMH?

m99

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant:

You mean Avengers EMH?

m99

No. 616 Marvel universe. canon.

#16 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

During Fear Itself he tells Hulk he could never beat him (that could be interpreted however the heck people want to I remember the thread about that but all i can mention is EXACTLY what Thor said),

Fraction already confirmed Thor was being sarcastic.

#17 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Kallarkz said:

During Fear Itself he tells Hulk he could never beat him (that could be interpreted however the heck people want to I remember the thread about that but all i can mention is EXACTLY what Thor said),

Fraction already confirmed Thor was being sarcastic.

where

#18 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Kallarkz said:

During Fear Itself he tells Hulk he could never beat him (that could be interpreted however the heck people want to I remember the thread about that but all i can mention is EXACTLY what Thor said),

Fraction already confirmed Thor was being sarcastic.

where

In an interview.

#19 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001:

Isn't he depowered in tv shows and movies?

m99

#20 Posted by Thorgoki (36 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree, Thor has been shown little love since the 90s. He just gets beat up by everyone and smacked around. The fact Rulk and Hulk pummel him with his own hammer is ridiculous too. I did like the battle with them in the Avengers movie and as a HUGE fanboy who likes Hulk, but can't stand how recently Hulk is unbeatable, I enjoyed when Hulk punched Thor towards the end...it was funny and I took it as just that.  
 
I think they need to bring Thor back to some type of realism. He has been a blabbering neanderthal for long enough, its time the GOD OF THUNDER stops being a baby (Siege) and starts getting some real love. I would love to see him powerhoused like they've been doing with Hulk. The fact Rhino one shot him from behind after yelling at him while charging was kinda dumb to me. Him catching that blast from Sentry with his chest was dumb. He has been so watered down that I just don't have it in me to buy anymore Thor comics.

#21 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1244 posts) - - Show Bio

This movie is soppose to be the ultimate univers not 616. In the ultimate universe Thor's hammer dose not have the wrothy thing.

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