DON'T you hate it when people call THOR an alien?

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#51 Edited by CHE_GUEVARA (51 posts) - - Show Bio

thor was born in norway? i thought he was asgardian.

oh ! you are referring to the genesis of Norse mythology aren't you?

#52 Posted by joshmightbe (24689 posts) - - Show Bio

@che_guevara: No he was actually born in Norway in the comics. Also he's only half Asgardian, his mother is an Elder goddess.

#53 Posted by CHE_GUEVARA (51 posts) - - Show Bio

oh! thanks. now we can be sure that he isn't an alien at all.

he's a earthly god from his mother,s side and an asgardian one from his father's.

#54 Posted by seekquaze (607 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous said:

@kgb725: all it takes to be a god is power and somebody to worship you.

Not in Marvel. Gods have always been treated as a specific sort of lifeform. There are powerful beings who have been worshipped and claimed to be gods, but they have always been treated as false gods. Heck, Galactus was stated in battle with the Sphinx that the latter made the mistake many lifeforms make in equating power with being a god. Galactus is more powerful than most gods and has been worshipped, but he has never made claims to godhood.

@maccyd said:

Aren't gods a species/beings in Marvel Universe and not just a title?

This is the way it is usually treated. Gods are beings with the "divine spark" or something like that. They appear to be able to recognize each other and have properties that separate them from other lifeforms. It is why godhunters like Gorr and Desak are able to hunt them to the exclusion of other superpowered beings. Its also why Eternals, Galactus, and the Silver Surfer draw a difference between themselves and gods like Volstagg.

#55 Posted by THORSON (2326 posts) - - Show Bio

thor movie odin states at the beginning "land of the gods"

black widow states them gods in the avengers.

so i don't know why ppl r saying they are aliens.

#56 Posted by THORSON (2326 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran:

who knew four capital letters can make someone go crazy. All the best for me to keep doing it.

#57 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on your definition of "alien". "Alien" can just mean outsider, although Thor was born on Earth.....

#58 Posted by Blackdog2009 (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@thorson: Thor's an alien! Nyah nyah na na na. ;)

#59 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio
#60 Posted by BigCimmerian (7860 posts) - - Show Bio

By technical definition he is an alien unless he happens to be in Norway (That's where he was born.)

Nah, he's an alien.

Not really because he is an alien

@wolverine08: @hyiena: he's a being from another dimension with crazy powers = alien

Do you guys know that Thor's mother is Gaea, the first being to manifest on planet Earth and she's also mother of all mythological pantheons. So how does that make any Marvel god alien?

#61 Posted by joshmightbe (24689 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: I was saying alien in the sense that people in America refer to Mexicans as aliens. Not in the racist sense just in the sense that they were born on foreign soil which by technical definition Thor was since he was born in Norway, though that also means he isn't an alien at all in the sense that this thread is calling him one. And I did know about the Gaea thing.

#62 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32848 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: I was saying alien in the sense that people in America refer to Mexicans as aliens. Not in the racist sense just in the sense that they were born on foreign soil which by technical definition Thor was since he was born in Norway, though that also means he isn't an alien at all in the sense that this thread is calling him one. And I did know about the Gaea thing.

Yea but he may have been born in norway but it was still by non-human parents. If Kal El had been born in Kansas he'd still be an alien.

#63 Posted by joshmightbe (24689 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Thor's mother has been on Earth far longer than Humans have existed so at best he's only half alien.

#64 Posted by BigCimmerian (7860 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@bigcimmerian: I was saying alien in the sense that people in America refer to Mexicans as aliens. Not in the racist sense just in the sense that they were born on foreign soil which by technical definition Thor was since he was born in Norway, though that also means he isn't an alien at all in the sense that this thread is calling him one. And I did know about the Gaea thing.

Yea but he may have been born in norway but it was still by non-human parents. If Kal El had been born in Kansas he'd still be an alien.

So lions and tigers are aliens because their parents are not humans?

#65 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1558 posts) - - Show Bio

It's annoying because he actually is a God from human mythology and such, but realistically there are numerous heroes in the Marvel U that could themselves be classified as Gods based on their powers alone. Some of them are what you'd call aliens, and some of them are humans. Not really all that different. It's just like when some people are mistaken for mutants because they have powers. (In fact i'm surprised that doesn't happen more often.)

#66 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32848 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: Lions and tigers are not native to another dimension.

@joshmightbe: There has been plenty of aliens that have been on earth longer than humans in stories over the years.

#67 Posted by joshmightbe (24689 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Yes but Gaea actually was born on Earth, in fact she was one of the first beings born on Earth. She is by no means an alien.

#68 Posted by joshmightbe (24689 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: In fact Gaea is literally part of the Earth, calling her an alien would be like calling the Grand Canyon an alien.

#69 Posted by BigCimmerian (7860 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Gaea is not alien, she manifested on Earth, she's practically planet Earth given form. You understand?

#70 Posted by Billy Batson (57784 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate it when people call him THOR.

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#71 Posted by Primebonnick (1772 posts) - - Show Bio

but he is an alien

#72 Posted by THORSON (2326 posts) - - Show Bio
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#74 Posted by w0nd (2921 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, it's because Disney is comprised of ultra right-wing jingoists who don't want to piss off all the nutcase religious right groups, so it was probably expressed to Marvel to make Asgardians into aliens. It's interesting that Marvel made that point ambiguous in the film considering they had a promo poster for the first film with Hemsworth's image and "God of Thunder" as the description.

that would be a valid reason, except in the comics which disney is still a part of they call him a god, and i am pretty sure in that new cartoon he is called a god.....

#75 Posted by PowerHerc (81637 posts) - - Show Bio

Even though Thor might technically be an alien I don't like the term applied to him. When one thinks of an "alien" it's usually a creature from outer space that comes to mind. The term evokes a sci-fi feeling whereas Thor is more along the lines of the fantasy genre. The term "God" suits him so much better.

#76 Posted by HaveAtThee (492 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

@haveatthee said:

Eh, it's because Disney is comprised of ultra right-wing jingoists who don't want to piss off all the nutcase religious right groups, so it was probably expressed to Marvel to make Asgardians into aliens. It's interesting that Marvel made that point ambiguous in the film considering they had a promo poster for the first film with Hemsworth's image and "God of Thunder" as the description.

that would be a valid reason, except in the comics which disney is still a part of they call him a god, and i am pretty sure in that new cartoon he is called a god.....

Nah, he's referred to as "Prince of Thunder" or "Thunderer," never the "God of Thunder." It has been implied a couple of times with cute lines from Iron Man like "We mere mortals appreciate the sentiment, but that's why we're a team" (back in EMH's season 1 finale). This fits with the theme of Marvel studios keeping the godliness or lack thereof ambiguous to the viewer. They hint at Thor being a god in various moments but never make a clear distinction. Perhaps it will all change in The Dark World.

#77 Posted by Darthnowell (51 posts) - - Show Bio

@haveatthee: He was actually called a god twice in emh. Once by the leader in gamma world (I suppose if gamma energy has no effect on a thunder god...) and by iron man in powerless (Hit it, thunder god).

#78 Posted by w0nd (2921 posts) - - Show Bio

@haveatthee: He was actually called a god twice in emh. Once by the leader in gamma world (I suppose if gamma energy has no effect on a thunder god...) and by iron man in powerless (Hit it, thunder god).

im glad you found that because i didnt want to rewatch eps :P

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