I agree that he shouldn't have got so tired but even so we can't ignore the statement that has been given twice. Once by the angels and another from Thor himself.

well Al ewing, the writer of that story seems to believe that angela can beat thor whenever she wants in a fight. either way I wouldnt see shame in taking an L to her. she dethroned gamora as top fighter tho. at least thor and angela are siblings

@cresshadow: That interviews are only to sell books they are made before the events come out with the objective of create intrigue in the fans to make them buy the book, the first fight of OS 5.3 was very badly written, Angela is coming from other comics company, this is an adaptation to the Marvel Universe world, i m a big Thor fan and really like Angela as Thor sister i think Asgard is the natural place for fit an Angel, i think as siblings they have similar power with Angela being more fast and Thor with more brute force and the lightning, that made the difference in the second fight, if Angela was a lot more powerful than Thor she will not fit in Asgard world, because she would ruin the balance of that realm, marvel comics Thor is very inspired in the Norse Mythology and he always was the central and most powerful hero of Asgard!

I m curious if marvel will ever explain why Angela fly by herself, Asgard characters in Marvel need items (weapons) or vehicles to fly!!!

@4thor: as far as I've known she always could. even in her spawn days she either flies or teleports. i was curious about thor using her lightning on her in their second fight because angela can cast lightning too. but this is besides the point lol

But as far as we know she is Agardian now and always was, why she can fly and other Asgardians can't? Don't you think marvel has to explain that to make a cohesive fit.

@lvenger: Thor won the rematch.

Don't you think that's good writing? Or, being the Thor fan that you are, happy of the outcome?

Someone please post the rematch

Thor vs Angela round 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgTHCyb_cg4

Thanks!

thor was actually holding back is power against Angela. did you noticed when Thor told Loki, i think he told Odin that he almost killed Angela, until Odin interrupted their battle.

@lvenger: Hey, how do you feel about the rematch ?

I can understand Thor trumping Angela in raw power but it seems a little convenient that Angela couldn't avoid the lightning when she danced around all of Thor's other attacks before.

@lvenger: Thor did say he was exhausted before though. And he got suckerpunched in the rematch. Or maybe she just isn't as fast as lightning.

He got hit by one energy cannon. I fail to see how that can exhaust him.

@lvenger: I just went with it. That wasn't the only convineince though. There was also something about how he could 't create storms or lightning because at that time there were no clouds or anything. Except that he has produced lightning more than once both in classic and modern era. But like Joe Q said: "This is comics. Anything goes.".

Fights for 80 days straight without any sleep but gets exhausted fighting a bunch of angels for a couple minutes.

Thor logic ftw

Fixed.

Inconsistencies doesn't only occur under Thor , and Aaron's not the only writer not to account for past stories.

@experio: that being said, aaron turned thor into the bad@$$ he really is. also, Angels > trolls and lesser monsters

@cresshadow: Can't argue with that.

But he then summoned a massive bolt of lightning which destroyed the building he was imprisoned in without the use of Mjolnir. Plot convenience much?

@lvenger: Though he did hint to the sky being open at that time. But yeah it's still convinient how he couldn't do it before. I guess Aaron realized how he has gone a bit far when making the first battle so one sided so he needed to justify it somehow. Hence Thor being"weakened and having no heart to fight and not being able to make lightning."

@spiderman1997: Well Al Ewing also co-wrote The Tenth Realm so maybe he contributed to the fight scene somehow. Aaron hasn't really slipped up much with fight scenes and power levels despite not being really interested in them. So perhaps Ewing had more to do with the inconsistency of the fight scene itself.

@lvenger: Was Al Ewing the one that said Angela can beat Thor anytime ?

Correct.

@lvenger: Oh, I see then.

@spiderman1997: Thor being weakened was stated since round 1 and someone have already posted that. Round 2 puts even more weight into that. And they simply showed that she isn't fast enough to dodge lightning. There isn't much problem in accepting that since even a 100% Thor(current) isn't that fast imagine one already exhausted.

For the last time: Thor WASN'T only hit by just one blast!!, he was fighting a lot of angels that were capable of making him bleed in the face(nose and mouth) with blunt force. So far that moment he wasn't there to make war that's why he didn't have ''the heart'' to fight and he was easily manhandling the Angels(no matter their speed) then appears another Angel(Angela) that is simply much stronger and faster than the others. Then for the fact he was tired and not expecting an adversary of that level he tried to fight the same way he was(brawling without the use of lightning) until he was blitzed with a lot of raw power.

@themadsurfer: I would assume she's faster than lightning considering her dodging/reaction time so far. Knowing angela's capabilities, round two was a bit of a head scratcher

@cresshadow: That's not what this writer thinks about her or Thor's lightning(which isn't normal at all) is faster than a regular one.

Spoken like a true fan boy, but at then of the day, thor gets smacked to shreds by the man of steel. . .

@monkey_butt: just stop

@MONKEY_Butt

Hey, when you get a post count over 100 you can talk, character bashing is not permitted in Comic Vine, especially when you're bashing a character in there respect thread, so why don't you stop being such a huge butthurt Superman fan and actually contribute to Comic Vine.

I want 2 take d time two g1ve m0?3 resp(t 2 thor

There is none like him

i became the first person to reach 500 in the THOR forum!!!!!

I think Malekith shouldn't be strong enough to cut off Thor's arm even with that axe but I can be wrong...

@themadsurfer: one mutant teen(late teens at least) one shot a celestial. the thing is doing damage no matter what lol

true

not sure if this was posted but I wanted us to take another look at this particular feat from classic thor when he makes an extremely powerful omnidirectional lightning attack which was so intense that the residual energy knocked out the hulk and turned him into banner when he caught him.

creates solar winds to travel faster than light

doom learns that an average asgardian can survive from having their vitals removes. doom ponders what someone like thor is capable of

mjolnir can break through hell.

a nice showing of pain tolerance. he can take having his skin and muscle tissue torn from him repeatedly

if you are worthy to hold mjolnir, almost nothing can keep it from you. not even dimensional barriers.

and it can move at such speeds that even silver surfer is amazed by

@New_World_Order: very good

@cresshadow: It would be nice if you also post this in the new respect thread of Thor:

http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/respect-the-the-mightest-avenger-1590954/?page=1/

will do

@lvenger: Take it up with Jason Aaron the guy either ignores or doesn't know about the scan you showed or about Thor's life force being part of Mjolnir even in THOR #1 apparently Thor becomes weak after days without food or rest Aaron is really downplaying Asgardians or Thor's Asgardian/Elder God heritage.

Thor's strength-His most famous feat of all time is his lifting the Midgard Serpent, and it's the weight of the earth, the Earth weighs 6.6 Sextillion tons.

Now as a mystical serpent constricting down on a planet, we can only assume it's stronger than an earthly creature, but let's use one as a comparison. An Anaconda weighing 550 pounds was measured as exerting over 90 pounds per square inch of force during an act of constriction, this equals a total force of over 8,818 pounds, or roughly, 16 times its bodyweight.

Now when we factor in that the Midgard Serpent was in fact exerting an additional sixteen times its weight in resistance due to being coiled around the earth at the time Thor hoisted it off, that would mean that the God of Thunder exerted enough strength to break over 105.6 sextillion tons of force, then he still has the weight of the serpent itself that he has to lift, and then toss it into space, which requires even more strength, but to determine that strength it requires knowledge of physics that I do not have. So it's likely that Thor can lift far more, considering his fishing position itself gave him even worse leverage for lifting.

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Thor wrestling around with Hercules.

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And here are two panels of Thor resisting the weight of twenty planets like Child's play. 6.6*20=132. So that's 132 Sextillion tons he's under, and he's not budging, and even fighting it.

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Thor also fighting the weight of the Ygdrasil tree, which holds the entire Nine Realms, or Nine Realities. This is the equivalent of lifting this tree high in the air, and he's pushing against that force, the world engine. Since the tree also holds the weight of Midgard-the realm of Earth, and the universe, this means Thor lifted a universe, or at the very least, nine planets.

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He held an entire moon together, kept it from falling apart, Our moon weighs around 81 Quintillion Tons, and he kept it together, fighting force enough to split a planet apart.

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Thor easily shattering a comet

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And just for good measure, here is Thor and Beta Ray Bill squatting Asgard.

Then I don’t have a scan for it, but in Thor: God of Thunder, Issue #8 Page 73, Thor effortlessly throws a star at the God-Bomb, a star weighs around 2 Octillion tons, rounded down.

Thor has enough striking power that his full force can cause nearby star systems to shake

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And he was able to bust many, many stars

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He only had half the power of it, the other half being Beta Ray Bill, but this would take hundreds of Octillions of tons of strength. This thing dwarfed and contained stars, the amount of energy and durability it would need is beyond planetary, beyond the weight of those stars it contains, it would weigh possibly Nonillions of tons and require hundreds of times more force to destroy. This is also a durability feat as he stood directly in the blast, which means we can count this as standing the force of just as many Supernovas.

And to really finalize this, Thor can hit so hard, that the shockwaves destroy nearby planetary objects

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Beyond this he has feats of crushing the heart of Demorgore-whom the writer compared to Eternity-knocking out the Phoenix Force, Bullrushed Galactus, has caused harm to Skyfather beings like Glory, and matched them in brute strength, Knocked out the Lord of Will, broke through the god bomb, and stood toe-to-toe with a Celestial

Thor's Speed-Thor has many feats of punking both Quicksilver, and even Hermes, the greek god of speed, but that's not it.

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This is Thor inside a solar system attempting to catch up with a large starship that's already flown out of the solar system. Now as we can see here Thor speaks "Increase my speed a hundredfold" and considering the size of a solar system, and he flew out of it in seconds, he must be moving many, many times the speed of light.

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Outspeeding Ego the living Planet, who can enter Hyperspace, thousands upon thousands of times faster than Lightspeed and in some cases, can cross the galaxy in seconds.

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Here, just to prove my point, is Thor flying at 3x the speed of light with relative ease.

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Yet another speed feat that only further proves my point, he travels from the sun to the earth in a matter of seconds.

But wait, there’s one more.

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He threw his hammer to the farthest reaches of the Galaxy, it came back in a few seconds.Our Galaxy is 100,000 light years across, and it went across then back, 200,000 lightyears, and that means to go there and back in about three seconds is 66,666x lightspeed at the very most.

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And then he's also crossed the universe in a few seconds before, which makes him incalculably fast.

Thor's agility/reflexes-Thor's able to not only react to, but effectively catch and even reflect blasts of energy and objects moving far faster than the speed of light.

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This is Thor moving so fast that even Heimdall couldn't see him, a guy endowed with Super senses, able to hear the grass grow, the sap running in the trees or the beating of the wings of a butterfly on the other side of the galaxy and whose eyes see light years away.

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Thor reflecting Blastaar's rays in a manner of Nanoseconds

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Here's a recent feat for him, dodging his own enchanted hammer when it was moving at insane speeds about two and a half feet from his face. As I proved, Thor's hammer moves beyond lightspeed.

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Thor stating himself he's beaten people faster than Quicksilver.

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The Wrecker's Crowbar being grabbed by Thor as it was merely inched from his head.

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Thor catching Bor's-his Grandfather's-axe as it was inches from his face.

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Thor deflecting energy blasts.

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Thor Speed-Blitzing Advanced Alien Kree Tech

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Thor reacting to Hyperion easily, who can move many times the speed of light.

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Reacting to Silver Surfer’s power cosmic, which can move at untold speeds

Here's some of Thor's Durability-I've shown you resisting the weight of those planets, and now here's another panel

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This is Thor resisting Hellfire like it's nothing, Ghost Rider's Hellfire.

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This is Thor resisting the gravity pull of a Neutron Star, A neutron star has 200 billion times the gravity of earth.

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This is Thor just standing in the center of the sun, having a casual conversation with Atum.

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Thor resisting Arctic forces

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Thor resisting the power of an exploding sun

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Thor getting hit with a lot of electricity, apparently it's like food for him, and as a guy who controls lightning and thunder, this is a big advantage.

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Thor being rocked by multiple solar system-destroying blasts from a Celestial, and coming out strong.

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This one goes under durability and speed I suppose, but saving Red Hulk from a Black Hole, and resisting the extreme gravitational pull.

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Thor surviving a blast from Thanos that could destroy a planet

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Surviving four Mjolnir-level attacks

Thor’s Endurance-This one may be similar to Durability, but there’s a difference, durability is how much damage you can take and what you can resist, Endurance is how long you can keep going.

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Thor fought the Dead for Forty Days and Forty Nights.

Thor's advanced musculature is considerably more efficient than that of most other Asgardians. As a result, his muscles produce practically no fatigue toxins during physical activity compared to those of humans and most other members of his race. He possesses virtually inexhaustible stamina and can exert himself at peak capacity for countless months, at the very least, without tiring at all. Thor was able to engage the entire Frost Giants army nonstop for more than 9 months straight without any sustenance or rest. Thor was even able to fight and stalemate the Sky father Zeus uninterrupted while the months, and consequently the Trojan War, raced by Hela herself mentioned that Thor could fight on for however long it takes.

Energy Projection-Thor is the God of Thunder, Lord of Lightning, his energy projection is one of his greatest abilities

Thor’s lightning is able to phase Mikaboshi who consumed about 98% of the Multiverse.

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He’s been able to mold a planet back together with his lightning

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This one isn’t so much a combat feat, but he makes it rain fire

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He summons a whirlwind, just wind, that’s able to cause a being equal to a bloodlusted Odin massive pain.

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His storms alone can block world-destroying blasts

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Thor showing off his ability to absorb the Null Bomb, which can destroy a Galaxy.

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Thor absorbing the energy directly out of an opponent.

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Thor showing he can absorb and redirect energy back a hundred times more powerful than what he absorbs. From Kang, and Thanos respectively

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Then, on top of all of this, around others, he always holds back.

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Thor straight-up stating he holds back all the time, he does it to protect mortals around him, and even here we don’t see the full extent of his power.

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Thor showing how much more powerful he is when he stops holding back

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Nice stuff ^

Instead of hate, i appreciate!

What I gather from this conversation is that some people love frequent forums that concern Marvel characters and act like they being honest when they just lying and being troll.

• Acknowledging Thor's high-end feats that occur more often than his low feats is not cherry picking.

Stop trying to disregard facts that make Thor look good.

Some people need to stop lying and being a troll. Stop telling tall tales and being a hypocrite.

@dum529001: Please stop replying to my comments. I told you before and I'll tell you again; your words, your opinions and your statements mean nothing to me whatsoever. They have no credibility, they have no logic, they make no sense and they're founded on poor and biased bases. Stop trying to bait me because I've had enough of your BS excuse for debating on here. I've earned my respect and credibility on here through logical debating, rigorously researched empirical evidence and actually knowing what I'm talking about, which is more than can be said for you. And despite what you think, I'm a rather big Thor fan actually.

Next time, try looking hard in a mirror before accusing someone else of your own failings.