can he actually dent adamantium ?

#1 Posted by shadow death (605 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Not sure
#2 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

yes.
#3 Posted by hydrabob--defunct (14860 posts) - - Show Bio

if he can carve Uru with his finger 
then I say yes he can dent adamantium

#4 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

   
#5 Posted by MrDirector786 (43550 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably.

#6 Posted by PowerHerc (83461 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.  That's pretty awesome power, btw.

#7 Posted by Deadcool (6810 posts) - - Show Bio

Who?

#8 Posted by Green Skin (2932 posts) - - Show Bio

Only people I've heard of doing it are Thor and Hulk.

#9 Posted by Deadcool (6810 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor can do it.

#10 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said:
"Thor can do it.
 
"

 
thats only adimantium alloy he can't destroy primary adimantium that easily although he can dent it.
#11 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not?

#12 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2221 posts) - - Show Bio
@Green Skin said:
" Only people I've heard of doing it are Thor and Hulk. "
They did it to Secondary Adamantium, not true Adamantium.
#13 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "

 
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands.  
 
adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too. 
#14 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@ThanosIsMad said:
" @Green Skin said:
" Only people I've heard of doing it are Thor and Hulk. "
They did it to Secondary Adamantium, not true Adamantium. "

Thor did it to true adamantium, he completely shattered escondary adamantium.  
 
Thor against primary adamantium  
  
 
Thor against secondary adamantium  
 
 
Thor against adamantium alloy  
#15 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

In AoA, didn't Cyclops laser off Wolverine's hand? So, was that PIS? Or was his hand not adamantium?

#16 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: 
 
well AOA isn't canon so its qute possible that that realitys version of Cyclops was just more powerful. like how ultimate cap is stronger than regular cap or how mangaverse Thor is way more powerful the 616 Thor.
#17 Posted by theiconic (924 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: hands have joints  he blasted inbetween     cyke did not vape the metal hand
#18 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor against uru  
        
again  
   
#19 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio

I always had a problem with an unbreakable metal, like adamantium, I think its durability should be weighed on its thickness. I get it works with Wolverine because the metal bounded with his skeleton and bone is pretty strong stuff to begin with. But if you have a piece as thin as a piece of paper how much could it possible stop ya know.

#20 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime`: 
 
I think if someone Like Thor Silver Surfer or Thanos attacked a thin piece of adamantium they could punch a hole through it IMO
#21 Posted by Identity (28 posts) - - Show Bio

He's not from this world, so I'd say it is possible....especially with magic.

#22 Posted by Theworldbreaker (1642 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer said:
"@Supreme Marvel said:
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
 not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands.   adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium is  too.  "
 
Fixed.
#23 Posted by skeeter_eater (51 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer said:
" @Nova`Prime`:  I think if someone Like Thor Silver Surfer or Thanos attacked a thin piece of adamantium they could punch a hole through it IMO "
Agreed
#24 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theworldbreaker said:
"@Thor's hammmer said:
"@Supreme Marvel said:
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
 not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands.   adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium is  too.  "
 Fixed. "

how durable actually is vibranium? since it should be less durable then any form of Adamantium.
#25 Posted by THORSON (2384 posts) - - Show Bio

yes mon!

#26 Posted by Fifthchild (603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor's hammmer said:

@Supreme Marvel said:
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too.

This is a good post. Though to my knowledge the Destroyer is also made from enchanted uru?

At any rate the topic's question is a controversial one. Adamantium got pretty abused back in the day to the point where Hulk was wrapping people up in it and Thor was breaking cables as shown. Busiek introduced the concept of primary vs secondardy adamantium in his Avengers run and for many people that retcons all previous instances where adamantium was seemingly damaged to being secondary adamantium or some kind of adamantium alloy.

However there are a couple of instances that might slip through the cracks:

  • Adamantium's first appearance as shown before. From Thor's dialogue it appears he may have dented it. Though the art doesn't really show anything.
  • Secret Wars. Hulk apparently damaged Ultron enough to allow the Wasp to slip inside. This was an Ultron created by Klaw with the Beyonder's power though.
  • Thor slammed Hulk into a pure adamantium statue of himself which Hulk then picked up. When he does so the art shows damage to the base of the statue though its unclear if the base is also pure adamantium.
  • Nul recently broke through an "adamantium net" (however that works) in Fear Itself.
  • Hulk recently drove Wolverines claws through his own skull (the question of adamantium damaging adamantium seems relatively open).

At any rate for some people if adamantium is seen being damaged on panel then its automatically not primary/pure adamantium.

#27 Edited by Pyrogram (38126 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

/thread

#28 Posted by Asagod (292 posts) - - Show Bio

Indeed, he can.

#29 Posted by New_World_Order (13179 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

#30 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fifthchild said:

@Thor's hammmer said:

@Supreme Marvel said:
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too.

This is a good post. Though to my knowledge the Destroyer is also made from enchanted uru?

At any rate the topic's question is a controversial one. Adamantium got pretty abused back in the day to the point where Hulk was wrapping people up in it and Thor was breaking cables as shown. Busiek introduced the concept of primary vs secondardy adamantium in his Avengers run and for many people that retcons all previous instances where adamantium was seemingly damaged to being secondary adamantium or some kind of adamantium alloy.

However there are a couple of instances that might slip through the cracks:

  • Adamantium's first appearance as shown before. From Thor's dialogue it appears he may have dented it. Though the art doesn't really show anything.
  • Secret Wars. Hulk apparently damaged Ultron enough to allow the Wasp to slip inside. This was an Ultron created by Klaw with the Beyonder's power though.
  • Thor slammed Hulk into a pure adamantium statue of himself which Hulk then picked up. When he does so the art shows damage to the base of the statue though its unclear if the base is also pure adamantium.
  • Nul recently broke through an "adamantium net" (however that works) in Fear Itself.
  • Hulk recently drove Wolverines claws through his own skull (the question of adamantium damaging adamantium seems relatively open).

At any rate for some people if adamantium is seen being damaged on panel then its automatically not primary/pure adamantium.

i'm pretty sure according to some very old comics or one of the Destroyers Bio's it is actually made out of a Matter that is unknown in origin and harder than uru, But it's definitely enchanted and i could be mistaken

#31 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram: @powerherc: @mrdirector786: @god_spawn I know this is a huge bump, but I know it's better to reply to old topics already created than to create redundant threads. Here's my question:

1. Jonathan Hickman retconned it to where all instances of Primary Adamantium being altered in any way was actually Secondary Adamantium.

2. The above point means Hulk destroying it and Mjolnir denting it are instances of Secondary Adamantium being altered.

3. How is it, then, that Thor not using all of his strength shatters Secondary Adamantium, yet it other instance(where he uses ALL of his strength) he can barely dent it?

#32 Posted by HaveAtThee (527 posts) - - Show Bio

Questions like these are subject to the behest of the writer at the time and what type of effect he wants on his/her story. The top powerhouses should be able to damage adamantium. It wouldn't be their most impressive feats either.

#33 Edited by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@haveatthee: So does that mean Thor is or isn't strong enough to dent adamantium?

I would rather people I respond to say "they don't know" rather than not answering at all.

#34 Edited by Pyrogram (38126 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

With his hands or with Mjolnir?

#36 Posted by Z3RO180 (6533 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yes he can

#37 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by tupiaz (2183 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

3. How is it, then, that Thor not using all of his strength shatters Secondary Adamantium, yet it other instance(where he uses ALL of his strength) he can barely dent it?

The really explanation is ofcause that what he used to bent used to be pure adamantium and it has just been retro con. However even though I don't know if this has been clarified directly in the comics a logic assumption most be that there is different versions of secondary adamantium or at least difference in strength or pureness. The closer the adamantium is to being true adamantium the harder it is to destroy.

#39 Posted by HaveAtThee (527 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@haveatthee: So does that mean Thor is or isn't strong enough to dent adamantium?

I would rather people I respond to say "they don't know" rather than not answering at all.

I say "yes." Not just Thor either, but Hulk, Gladiator and Hercules should all be able to. This way if Wolverine was dumb enough to square off with one of these guys they could spank him without some idiotic healing-factor or unbreakable bones plot-device.

#40 Edited by CaptnMcDeadpool (960 posts) - - Show Bio

He broke a hole into a celestials armor, I'm gonna guess he could dent adamantium as plain Jane, vanilla Thor.

#41 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

With Mjolnir he could. Without, hardly. He needed to Godblast wolverine and cap to do so in King Thor form.

The most comparible thing to it would be Wolverine, even though his skeleton is only covered in a layer of adamantium, thor has never been shown to bend it in his normal form and without Mjolnir.

#42 Posted by PowerHerc (83461 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: Based on Thor's various showings I think it's reasonable and safe to say he can bend, damage or break secondary adamantium using his bare hands or his hammer. I also think it's safe to say that he can't bend or break pure adamantium (yet) without being amped by the Odin-Power or being in his "Rune King Thor" form.

Examples of Thor breaking secondary adamantium relatively easily one time and later, suing supreme effort, being able to do much less damage is terrible writing inconsistency. This is exactly the type of thing Marvel editorial staff should prevent.

#43 Posted by AskaniSon295 (427 posts) - - Show Bio

magic > science

#44 Edited by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

@askanison295: Bingo. As a rule of thumb, I'd say that magic can trump any earthly metal.

#45 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33336 posts) - - Show Bio

If Adamantium is so strong how do they make things out of it?

#46 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

If Adamantium is so strong how do they make things out of it?

When Adamantium is first produced, it exists in its natural form-liquid. Scientists keep it at liquid form by keeping it at a high temperature.

To make objects scientists pour the liquid Adamantium into a molding chamber or inject it onto a solid object(like with Wolverine's bones), once the liquid cools Adamantium is indestructible.

#47 Edited by sommyt (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

If Adamantium is so strong how do they make things out of it?

When Adamantium is first produced, it exists in its natural form-liquid. Scientists keep it at liquid form by keeping it at a high temperature.

To make objects scientists pour the liquid Adamantium into a molding chamber or inject it onto a solid object(like with Wolverine's bones), once the liquid cools Adamantium is indestructible.

this

#48 Posted by King_Thor (96 posts) - - Show Bio

He dented Cap's shield as King Thor. The scans above indicate he can dent adamantium as well.

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