The Walking Dead 3.05 ‘Say the Word’ Discussion

Posted by erik_norris (191 posts) - - Show Bio

Spoilers for this week’s episode below. You’ve been warned.

Man, so you thought Rick was crazy before? Now, in the wake of Lori’s death, Rick is officially off his rocker. We’ve slowly been seeing Rick slip further and further from sanity, resembling something that mirrors Rick’s late friend, Shane, and that goes even further in this week’s episode, “Say the Word.”

What’s also interesting about this episode is that it shows an interesting contrast between life for our “good guys” and “Bad guys.” The good guys – team Rick – are living in filth and burying a third of their group. Meanwhile, the bad guys – team Governor – are partying it up, literally. Hell, they have cold drinks for Pete’s sake! Woodbury is painted as a true paradise, although we all know this illusion isn’t going to stick as was hinted at by the episode’s final scene in the town.

Speaking of The Walking Dead’s version of WWE wrestling, “Say the Word” featured quite a few callbacks to Robert Kirkman’s original comic. The boxing match, for instance, was in the original books, albeit far more grim and more a gladiatorial event with someone dying in the end for the audience’s entertainment. Additionally, the Governor taking care of his zombie daughter is from the books, and was pulled off pretty much identically here. And lastly, the ringing phone at the very end of the episode, but we’ll get to that shortly.

We also see more of a divide between Andrea and Michonne in this week, although Andrea probably realized her mistake in not leaving when she witnessed the entire town of Woodbury cheering like savages at the wrestling event. Andrea is definitely in a tight spot without Michonne by her side. This also means that Michonne might finally make her way to the prison and meet Rick and the rest of the gang, leading them back to Woodbury to potentially save Andrea later on.

The other major character to get some time to shine this week, however small it may have been, was Daryl. While we, the audience, don’t buy Carol being dead, he has no reason to think otherwise, what with them stumbling upon her head rag next to the mangled corpse of T-Dog. So the scenes in the nursery where Daryl notices a nametag for Sophia, as well as him paying his final respects for Carol at her grave were quite poignant. It’s kind of interesting to see someone as levelheaded as Rick losing his marbles completely with the dead of a loved one, while a wildcard – at least at the beginning of the show – like Daryl is much more reserved. Also, Daryl feeding the baby was hilarious, although his name giving privileges should be immediately revoked.

Overall, “Say the Word” was another great episode that provided a nice cool down after last week’s tearjerker. We got plenty of great character moments and plenty of winks and nods to the comics for longtime readers.

Oh, and if you’re wondering who’s on the other line….

Erik Norris is a freelance writer for sites such as ComicVine, IGN and CraveOnline.com. You can stalk him on Twitter@Regular_Erik.

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#1 Posted by clumsyninja (143 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

#2 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9011 posts) - - Show Bio

Here is my review for the episode:

#3 Posted by erik_norris (191 posts) - - Show Bio

@clumsyninja said:

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

I don't think she did. The character think so, but we have no reason to believe that. Plus, the preview scene for next week's episode hints she's still very much alive.

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#4 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

My bro and I were hysterical throughout the episode. I am glad Michonne got the hell up outta that place. Left Andrea to the savages in Woodbury.

Also, Rick went mad.

#5 Posted by cattlebattle (12713 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik_norris said:

@clumsyninja said:

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

I don't think she did. The character think so, but we have no reason to believe that. Plus, the preview scene for next week's episode hints she's still very much alive.

I thought the point of Daryl putting the flower on the grave meant that it was Carols....didn;t they have a discussion about a flower at some point last season.
#6 Posted by erik_norris (191 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@erik_norris said:

@clumsyninja said:

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

I don't think she did. The character think so, but we have no reason to believe that. Plus, the preview scene for next week's episode hints she's still very much alive.

I thought the point of Daryl putting the flower on the grave meant that it was Carols....didn;t they have a discussion about a flower at some point last season.

Right, Daryl THINKS she's dead, but we, the audience, know better. What's the old adage: no one's dead until you show me the body? The people in the prison think she's gone to the great beyond, but we never see her body, only a head wrap, so the chances of her being alive are pretty high. Odds are she'll pop up alive somewhere down the road, maybe even next episode.

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#7 Posted by cattlebattle (12713 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik_norris said:


Right, Daryl THINKS she's dead, but we, the audience, know better. What's the old adage: no one's dead until you show me the body? The people in the prison think she's gone to the great beyond, but we never see her body, only a head wrap, so the chances of her being alive are pretty high. Odds are she'll pop up alive somewhere down the road, maybe even next episode.

Why did they dig a hole then?? I don't know, the show as kind of shotty with that whole part. I assume they threw Lori in there seeing as her body was missing T-Dog could be in there too I suppose. I guess we will find out next episode
#8 Posted by Spellca (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle:

Lori's body was eaten, my friend. The grave for Carol most likely just contains the head cloth.

#9 Posted by fps_dean (255 posts) - - Show Bio

@clumsyninja said:

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

That's because you never saw her die. They have yet to tell us what happened...

#10 Posted by cattlebattle (12713 posts) - - Show Bio
@Spellca said:

@cattlebattle:

Lori's body was eaten, my friend. The grave for Carol most likely just contains the head cloth.

Yeah, I understand thats what was implied...I just find it kind of weird that thing was able to devour all of Lori...bones and all.
#11 Posted by Spellca (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle:

It is possible that more than one zombie went by, dragged the corpse to the back of the room and devoured her as a group. One might have gotten a little over-gorged and couldn't walk - that was the Walker that Rick murdered.

#12 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33098 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like that Daryl is such a ubermensch now, characters need flaws and at this point he literately has none

#13 Posted by lifeboy (1675 posts) - - Show Bio
I am very tempted to watch this show. Like with buying the batman trade. At the last second i always put it back.
#14 Posted by Decept-O (7275 posts) - - Show Bio

This was a great episode all around. Loved the FX, nicely done. However and this is a minor quibble...I wished the lighting was a bit better where needed. I mean, I know the scenes in the deeper portions of the prison with Rick were supposed to be dark and all but damn, at least use some kind of lighting so the audience can see what the heck is going on!

OK griping aside damn good and can't wait to see next week's episode.

#15 Posted by danhimself (22498 posts) - - Show Bio

man I can't wait for the people who haven't read the book to get the phone reveal

#16 Posted by sentryman555 (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I don't like that Daryl is such a ubermensch now, characters need flaws and at this point he literately has none

I think they're playing Daryl so low key right now because he's gonna have a lot of drama and such when he meets Merle again.

#17 Posted by HexThis (898 posts) - - Show Bio

@clumsyninja said:

Also, apparently Carol died in the last episode...I didn't remember her death :-(

She "died" but you know, they didn't handle it in the best way. They showed her escaping after T-Dawg made the ultimate sacrifice and then they were all "Oh hey, look, a shawl. Guess Carol's dead. Boo-hoo. Meh. Onto whatever's next" but not even explicitly enough so that you might think she's dead...like, we didn't actually see them bury a carcass.

I was honestly just thinking to myself "Oh, did that actress have to film a movie or something so they're just sort of shooting around her?" so, at this point, she'll probably show up again because it can't possibly be this poorly handled.

#18 Posted by eduardoy7 (31 posts) - - Show Bio

What if the writers are just trolling us and Carol really did die but will have us wait out for her to not return?

It'd make an amusing twist, seeing as the consensus believes she's alive. Sofia 2.0

#19 Posted by The Stegman (24053 posts) - - Show Bio
Judging from the preview for next week, it looks like  Andrea might start to accept the Town, and relish in killing Biters, she even goes out hunting for them.
#20 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

So we discover Woodbury is simply a gilded lie and have Rick go nuts finally. Good episode and all but for some reason I feel I was just a LITTLE let down considering all the pent up energy I still had from last week's episode. Still good, plus it was kinda nice to see Daryl step up and be a daddy like figure for a change. Who said rednecks couldn't be good papas? Interesting though...we see Rick finally go for the phone but Michonne hasn't "talking" yet.

#21 Posted by DonFelipe (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I don't like that Daryl is such a ubermensch now, characters need flaws and at this point he literately has none

Interesting!

At first, I was very surprised, too. The once-so-nihilistic Daryl takes care of the baby and new born.

He has always been the most pragmatic guy. Certain things just need to be taken care of.

Here's the baby crying - so feed it.

Btw, I was more surprised how fast the milk was ready....

#22 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

Michonne is too awesome!

#23 Edited by MadeinBangladesh (6666 posts) - - Show Bio

It was def Lori on the Phone just like the Comics.

#24 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6666 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: oh damn bro sorry about that I didn't realize. I fixed it. :)

#25 Posted by Invisible_Witch (312 posts) - - Show Bio

@MadeinBangladesh:

How does that work? Isn't She dead ...

#26 Posted by Mahzian (117 posts) - - Show Bio

@MadeinBangladesh: you might want to fix that spoiler warning...

#27 Posted by Asok (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@Invisible_Witch said:

@MadeinBangladesh:

How does that work? Isn't She dead ...

Rick be crazy.

#28 Posted by The Mast (788 posts) - - Show Bio

Daryl is such a Mary Sue and this show would be better off without him,

#29 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6666 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mast: DARYL is one of the best characters, why you no like him?

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