@HortonDrawsAWho: So you're solution to the issues that not anyone can die at any time is to rehash exactly what you read in the past so you'd know exactly who was going to die when and where at all times? Isn't that kind of like planning your own surprise party?
The Walking Dead 3.04 ‘Killer Within’ Discussion
@fodigg: I KNOW I cannot believe him and Lori, gone just like that and someone said that they had big plans for him. I did not think that Dying would be one of them.
I really do enjoy the Walking Dead as a show. This third season has been great so far but it bugs me when people pull the No One is Safe mantra about it. Rick is safe. Carl's safe. I would go as far as to say Michonne, Darrell, Glen, and Maggie are Safe. As to surprising deaths. I think the only surprising death in the whole series so far for me was Dale. Sure people died in surprising ways but that the character was going to die was not. And by that I mean the series has either A) picked around the edges of the important cast members and killed off characters that didn't really matter (ie: T-Dawg, Jim, Sophia, Patricia, Ed, Jacqui) or B) It was clear that the character had to die and the show had built toward it (ie: Lori, Shane, Randall, Tomas).
If anyone is really watching this show from week to week and are genuinely scared that Rick or Carl or anyone from my short list above will get killed that's great. I'm glad that the illusion is working for you but I guess I'm too cynical.
All that having been said, this is probably my favorite season so far. There is a good balance of character driven drama and action. The story is moving along. I like where things are going. I wonder how much of the prison story line from the comics will make it into this season. At this point, I'm not really sure how Woodbury and the Prison are going to intersect. I guess Merle is being setup as the key to that. I thought Merle was poised to rain fire down on Rick's group but now I feel like the character is capable of forgiving and forgetting if he can just find his brother alive. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
Great episode. This was a wake up call for the group and the fans. A reminder that the world they are in is really that f-ed up. Man its going to get intense from here!
Best show on TV for sure imo.
T-dog "This is gods plans. I'm gonna lead you out of hear before I turn"
Carol "What wait... Your religious? Since when? You barely talk about yourself. I mean the zombies that killed my daughter off camera had more character development than you."
@AlKusanagi said:
The show and the comic are two completely different entities by far. That has been made obvious since the first season.
The comic Woodbury and the governor were over the top and ridiculous in the comic and would have looked absolutely stupid on TV.
I'll be honest, I'm sick of hearing this.
It's called The Walking Dead. It's based on The Walking Dead. It has characters, locations and vague story threads from The Walking Dead. It's adapted from The Walking Dead. In the credits it is attached to The Walking Dead.
So, yes. I will judge it compared to the comic. If this bothers the makes of the show, tell them to not make it so lame compared to the thing they're adapting. Not in a construction sense, because it's clearly a well-made show. I just have major beef with what they've done to characters I've been with since 2003.
Also, who is to say what's stupid? This is a show with zombies.
So I am guessing Rick goes depressed and feral for the next couple episodes, while the black prisoner steps up and becomes de facto leader because Daryl mentally cant and Hershel physically cant,the whhite prisoner will eventually be the one who rapes Hershel youngest wwhich means Stone Cold Carl will kill him, and I wouldnt be suprised if Stone Cold Carl tells Rick to shoot himself if your going to be useless.
@mightypug78: But how would it have been shocking if we already knew how she would die if they did just like they did in the comics there would be no surprise or shock factor at all the way they did with T's and Lori's death was surprising especially considering they died so early in the season.
@The Mast said:
@AlKusanagi said:
The show and the comic are two completely different entities by far. That has been made obvious since the first season.
The comic Woodbury and the governor were over the top and ridiculous in the comic and would have looked absolutely stupid on TV.
I'll be honest, I'm sick of hearing this.
It's called The Walking Dead. It's based on The Walking Dead. It has characters, locations and vague story threads from The Walking Dead. It's adapted from The Walking Dead. In the credits it is attached to The Walking Dead.
So, yes. I will judge it compared to the comic. If this bothers the makes of the show, tell them to not make it so lame compared to the thing they're adapting. Not in a construction sense, because it's clearly a well-made show. I just have major beef with what they've done to characters I've been with since 2003.
Also, who is to say what's stupid? This is a show with zombies.
So in a show with zombies all zombies are stupid or only zombies are to say what's stupid?
I'm confused now!
It's up to you to compare it to the comic. However it is only an adaption; not a remake of the original comic though it might had started so at the very beginning. With this season the show seems to go into a more and more different direction and rightly so. Why would we want to see the very same story and character development as in the comic books all over again? That would be so boring! Besides some characters and situation from the comic book wouldn't work on TV.
@ripcurl: it wasn't Death-by-walker in the comic, she was killed by gunshot,
Lori's death was supposed to be the greatest moment of Walking Dead for me, and while she was lying there, telling maggie to do it for everyone and for the baby and telling Carl she doesn't hate him and everything, instead of being a rising excitement as i realized she was going to die, i found my self getting angry, Lori did not deserve to die like that ... SHE SHOULD HAVE DIED A QUICK NO TIME FOR EMOTION DEATH (like in the comic, where rick looks back but keeps running cause he knows he has too in order to survive, there was no lingering of her death). as the biggest bitch to ever exist in the walking dead universe she should have never gotten a "redeeming" death speech in which it makes you feel sort of sorry for her, she received no pity from me, but i felt robbed of the sudden and much deserved non-redeeming exiting of a character who had been the bane of my walking dead show viewer existence since she first questioned Rick." Maybe this will kick-start Carl's superbadass mode though.
(and also R.I.P. T-Dog, while you were no Tyrese i just started to respect your character and I'm glad his death was the most heroic in any of the walking dead universe, past, present and probably future.)
Am I the only one who noticed the only significant thing about this episode? AXEL SAID THE LINE!
F#ck everything else this ep. T-dog and L-b#tch were the most hated things about this show anyway, you fellow me?
I know I'm in a short list of people asking but what happened to Carol? Last we saw she still had the head scarf as she made her escape after T-Dog gave us the most heroic action by any character in the series so far. And then Daryl just finds it on the ground, either continuity issues or we've missed something.
Also Andrea, crawl up your own arse and die, Michonne just needs to loose the bitch. As unlikely as it is, she could use a katana to the face.
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