What's Wrong With The Huntress And Power Girl In The 'New 52'?

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#101 Posted by Bluewaterprod (1 posts) - - Show Bio

This series sort of bores me. I wanted to love it.....

Power Girl Costume as well as Black Canary got robbed in the redesign costumes. God they are really bad! I also miss Jim Lee's Huntress costume. It is odd not to have her part of the Batman world. I am so disconnected from DC Comics now - after collecting for many many years!

#102 Posted by JCT45 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

To me few character feel like they had for years before the New 52 ... I'll just add these two to the growing list of DC hero's i use to know.. Its the New 52.. this is what they ( or i guess fans ) wanted... i guess

#103 Posted by Mister_Sensational (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Babs: You knocked this one out of the park Babs, hats off to you madame! This article expressed everything I've felt about these two characters and this series as a whole. I too was first drawn to this by way of that awesome Huntress mni-series you mentioned, I loved how the writer kept us guessing until the very end as to wether or not this was a "New" Huntress or the same old Huntress we had come to know and the ending with PG appearing made it seem that there was going to be great things on the horizon for these two, then came issue 1 and I was like "OK good start but I'm not sure this is worthy of being a monthly buy." so I desginated it one of my "in store" reads and sure enough 6 issues in (including the 0 issue) I was right. I personally was expecting something more along the lines of the Superman/Batman series but not as all over the place that series had gotten (especially towards the end) but more along the lines of where it was in its first few story arcs where it was about Superman & Batman and their relationship with one another first and their relationship with the rest of the DCU second. With World's Finest it's as if the rest of Earth 0 doesn't exist or PG and Huntress choose to ignore the pressence of the rest of the world altogether and vice-versa. All I know is DC better do something fast or else this could be the first of the "second wave" to be put on the chopping block.

#104 Posted by DMC (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sooooo glad I ditched this book after issue #1. Besides the dumb new costume, I had a feeling this book wouldn't give me the PG I wanted. I

Oh how I miss thee
#105 Posted by achilles100 (199 posts) - - Show Bio

It's strange that the same guy who wrote The Great Darkness Saga also is writing this. They need a new writer and the old PG costume. Someone who's handled PG in the recent past, and someone who knows a bit about Huntress.

#106 Edited by achilles100 (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Get Simone back to the sort of book she's best at perhaps?  If this is going to be a buddy book, make it the best buddy book you can.  Maguire immediately suggests Giffen and Dematteis, but they supposedly aren't interested in redoing JLI/JLE any more.  So go with Simone, and see if she can recapture her BOP/Secret Six magic.
 
Or try Palmiotti and Gray, who though they had little in the way of a plan for the old PG series at least managed to capture her character well, and write an amusing book.  Though without Connor, who knows how great it would turn out.  She was the key IMO, selling what they wrote with her art.  Maguire though could probably manage the same thing, or a alternating Connor/Maguire rotation. 

Or Winick, who also wrote a good PG series, if a bit derailed both by Generation Lost and impending cancellation.   
 
Or Struges, who wrote her in two issues of her own series as well as All-Stars.  But Levitz is proving to not get PG, strange because he used to write her back in the day, and not to have anything coherent in mind for his own character Huntress.  
 
That, and of course the 800 pound gorilla in the room, editorial interference, which according to Perez, is rife in this book.  As well as perhaps many others DC puts out.

#107 Posted by sw04ca (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I'm not loving the new costume. She looks like some kind of speedskater or something.

I dunno, I've been drifting away from DC ever since Final Crisis, but by far the biggest casualty of Flashpoint and the New 52 was the Power Girl monthly. It had whimsy and humour, it had some fun references, and it tempered the cheesecake elements by giving us a smile and a wink. I know it's a tough industry for any book that doesn't have a movie tie-in, but it was disheartening to see one of the few genuinely light and entertaining books out there get canned because of an editorial gimmick.

#108 Posted by HJK (9 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to admit that I didn't read The Huntress mini-series, so this may have been covered already, but it appears to me that Huntress is in love with Power Girl. She hasn't been shown to have any interest in any men that I have seen and it may fall inline with DC's latest, possible trend to make old characters gay (i.e. Alan Scott). I may be reading the room wrong, but that's the way that I'm seeing her.

#109 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1852 posts) - - Show Bio
•_•) looks like Power Girl
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#110 Edited by Anthonypilone01 (24 posts) - - Show Bio

"What's wrong with the Huntress and Power Girl in the New 52 "?

EVERYTHING!!!! HELLO!!! And at this point, I actually miss the real DC heroes in general.

I WANT 'EM ALL BACK!!!!

#111 Posted by Mrfuzzynutz (968 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been screaming they ruined Power Girl ever since she showed up in Mr Terrific ( which no one seems to mention) . That conversation with Huntress posted above summed up Power Girl perfectly. But I have come up with 3 reasons why I dislike the book

1) I dislike the costume on PG a lot, because it not only lost a lot of the fun aspects of drawing it, the window, the shoulder cape and the boots, the new one just doesn't make any sense. The "sneakers" just look of, and the chest logo is a bit too random and wonky to identify her in any way.

2) Huntress stands around and explains the action while Power Girl IS the action. Clearly we have a brains and brawn dynamic going on, but it is clearly so one sided it comes across stale and boring. Power Girl punched bad guy, Huntress explains why punching is a bad idea, Power Girl punches bad guy again, Huntress says I told you so. Once is funny, but the writer seems to keep going to cheap gags and laughs

3) And the biggest complaint from me is, This is POWER GIRL and HUNTRESS NOT SUPER GIRL AND BATGIRL!! These ladies act completely different and it is not coming across in the pages. I understand this is a different universe so the characters can't act the same as before. But this is a reboot, not a attempt to reimangine the characters to create new stories. We need to see the intelligent, stubborn, and confident Power Girl again, and the Defiant,Driven and dangerous Huntress again....PLEASE!!

#112 Posted by LenSnart (141 posts) - - Show Bio

I always thought Power girls outfit was too derogatory, it just has no purpose and was obviously made by some horny comic book artist

#113 Edited by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the changes they made were retarded, especially what they did to Powergirl (and her costume, I liked her costume; it was simple but unique, had kind of an imperial feel to it from my perspective, yet was still feminine without being slutty).

#114 Posted by GreeNataRiaN (12 posts) - - Show Bio

It seems the general consensus among DC fans (myself included) is that The New 52 just doesn't stack up at all. And Power Girl and Huntress are not immune.

With the astounding popularity of comic book characters who have film potential (and not so much actual comic books) ever on the rise, it seems that traditional comic book readers (myself included) are being forced to bite myriad bullets. I have been able to stomach very little of the New 52 series I've sampled and I know I am not alone; after reading this review I will be sure to put World's Finest on the (long) list of new titles I can now avoid.

But as I dwell on the matter, it occurs to me: I'll bet that from Golden Age to Silver Age, from Silver to Bronze, from Bronze to Modern, and throughout all the crossover events which presented opportunities to simultaneously retcon multitudinous characters, the prevailing readership at the time felt exactly the way we do now.

Power Girl's intelligence (and costume) may be comparatively diminutive, but you know what? Once upon a time, an alien named Kal-El, could do little more than jump really high and run pretty fast. The comic readers of yesteryear have gotten used to our space-age characters, and we will likewise just have to get used to this new crop, lest we become finger-wagging fogies who won't tolerate a comic-nudity level above 20 decibels (of nakedness!).

Besides, maybe down the line they'll use the aforementioned contrived-feeling friendship between these two characters as a plot device. I may not enjoy The New 52 (and one again, let me assure you that I do NOT), but I am not giving up hope that one day, we will see something awesome from the aftermath. After all, it's not like Power Girl couldn't turn out to be a robot or a clone or a power-mimic or something.

#115 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
#116 Posted by DanteTheRedKnight (112 posts) - - Show Bio

This is exactly how I feel for Teen Titans! The pre-52 version was waaaaaaaay better!

But Teen Titans was the only comic book series I read before the New 52 'cause I didn't know where to start from with the other series so I am grateful for the New 52 but why they have to ruin Teen Titans? :(

#117 Posted by KZR (487 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: I agree. I'd rather Power Girl be in limbo than be so badly written. I like the character but hate the book.

#118 Posted by consafo80 (111 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I like it

#119 Posted by PJammaz (5 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. They need to wrap it up real quick and move on to something different.

#120 Posted by Zuckuss_02 (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Bring back the original Huntress "Helena Bertenelli"

Give Power Girl back her original costume

Bring back the real DCU pre-Flashpoint

#121 Posted by bloggerboy (535 posts) - - Show Bio

Unfortunately Levitz seems to be writing these characters like it's still 1970. His stories with the JSA (including PG and Huntress) from THAT era are a lot better though.

#122 Posted by knightwing2036 (8 posts) - - Show Bio

These characters are favorites of mine - and I LOVE the new Earth-2 - but the writing in Worlds Finest is so bad it makes me want to drop the book (even though I can't cause I feel the writing might get better with a new writer and there might be material about Earth-2 that would come up).

I also agree about Power Girl's suit -- why would it have to burn up every issue?! You would think that being a superhero and all, she would wear something that was made to be durable -- clearly the writers can't fathom that. (Costing Huntress a fortune in drycleaning btw)

And this thing about 'getting home" -- well PG & Huntress don't seem to be doing very much about it - especially if they developed lives and identities over her for the past 5 YEARS. Maybe it's just me i don't know but that needs to be sorted out.

Basically, I find ALOT of things wrong with this book --- but as I said, I can't bring myself to drop it cause I fear I might miss that flash-in-the-pan reference to some Earth-2 wonder... (grumble)

#123 Posted by mtbmonkey (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Great article Sara. I think you really hit the mark here. I really liked the history/origin of there characters (Pre New 52). I was looking for more back story of Batman and Catwoman. Issue 0 delivered some but not all my hopes. As for Power Girl, I thought the first time they blew a hole in her top, it was symbolic. After it happened every issue, it became degrading. Not only to the character but to the reader. I don't need to see it anymore.

Power Girl and Huntress are two different characters now. They are almost forgettable. I've been hoping for a tie in somewhere. Unfortunately, I dropped the series. I tried to like this series but can't go on any longer.

#124 Posted by blackair9 (90 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree on a long of points. I love The Huntress and powergirl, issue 0 was awesome. power girl old costume was iconic. What i don't like is they have seriously dumbed her down. It feels a lot more like Power Girl is a side-kick than a partner. The situation with Michalel holt made her seem sleezy. lately with more than a few of the new 52 its seems like all the writing is shallow, directionless and by the seat of the pants. Titles characters like Huntress, Powergirl, Green Arrow and Static deserve much better writing.

#125 Posted by tristanh (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zuckuss_02 said:

Bring back the original Huntress "Helena Bertenelli"

Give Power Girl back her original costume

Bring back the real DCU pre-Flashpoint

To be fair, they did bring back the 'original' Huntress by making her Helena Wayne. I've enjoyed both versions of the character and could have taken either one, as long as they are interesting. I haven't been getting that lately.

I certainly agree the costume for PG is terrible, especially the leggings/boots. They belong on a speedster character, not her.

The other issue is the characterization. It's just not the same character I cared to read about. PG wasn't a Supergirl. She didn't need to be. I miss the way that character had developed and grown over the years. This is someone else. Yes, yes, nu52 and all that. Different characters, whatever.

For me, in almost all cases of this reboot the stories have just been BORING. Worlds' Finest is no exception. Despite all the talk about not not writing for the trades, they're still taking stories that should be a single issue at best and stretching them out for four issues. I read an issue and don't feel like anything happened.

In short, get off my lawn, damn kids. *waves cane*

#126 Posted by DMC (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

@daredevil21134 said:

Replace Helena Wayne with Helena Bertinelli and give Power Girl back her old costume and attitude.

amen to that!

wake me up when this nonsense is over...

#127 Posted by HellknightLeon (69 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm with you one hundred percent. I feel like she is turning into how uninformed readers view her. She is not a sexpot nor this dull one shade super hero. She need to be shown the type of love and understanding that she deserves. Keep up the good work Comic Vine and happy late birthday.

#128 Posted by waezi2 (6615 posts) - - Show Bio

Im a HUGH Power Girl fan, and I hate Worlds Finest.

#129 Posted by Joe_Amazing (103 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc has made me do something I never thought I would do. Cancel a book with Power Girl in it.

#130 Posted by Primebonnick (1670 posts) - - Show Bio

yea i dropped it, even though i do like the two characters. I don't mind power girl's new attire, but we need to realize that new universe so we gotta give them time to grow into the characters we love. I did like how helena was used when damian was killed i mean that was her brother. I also hope they get back to earth 2 (not to stay, but its so interesting over there right now adding them to the mix would be awesome).

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