who is he most powerfull guy in the star wars universe?

#1 Posted by blackadam (2137 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

who is or was the most pwerfull guy in star wars? by power i mean energy output, strength, reality warper. name the guy and say why do you think he is the most powerfull

#2 Posted by blackadam (2137 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

bump?

#3 Posted by Jotham (4564 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

There have been threads discussing this before. I said Starkiller, and everyone was like: "Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! There's a guy in this one book who's ten times as powerful as Starkiller!"

#4 Posted by The Mango (1477 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Luke Skywalker, Palpatine, Darth Nihilus

#5 Posted by mavfan626 (4001 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Yoda?

#6 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Luke Skywalker, Palpatine, and Darth Nihilus are the strongest.

@Jotham said:

" There have been threads discussing this before. I said Starkiller, and everyone was like: "Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! There's a guy in this one book who's ten times as powerful as Starkiller!" "

Starkiller = weakling.

#7 Posted by Jotham (4564 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan: You were one of them, weren't you?

#8 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@Jotham said:

" @JediXMan: You were one of them, weren't you? "

Probably.
Let's match feats:

Luke Skywalker:

Manipulated black holes
Was so fast that he looked like he had 20 lightsabers
Can teleport an object (called "fold space")
Took a hit from an AT-AT without flinching
Knocked over said AT-AT with ease.
Rebuilt a fortress with only telekinesis (and later destroyed it with the same method)

Palpatine:

Creating a worm hole that was capable of either transporting a single person from one planet to another or ripping an entire fleet to pieces.
Transferred his soul into other bodies.
Beat Luke Skywalker in Lightsaber combat (though to be fair, Luke wasn't as good as he'd later be. He was still at the level where he took a hit from that AT-AT - yeah, that's Luke before he reached his prime)
Mass Force-drain (drained the population of Byss slowly over time)

Darth Nihilus:

Held together a ship through sheer willpower.
Transferred his soul into objects and could posses / animate them (that was his armor, not his body, that was in KOTOR II)
"Spoke" and killed every living thing on a planet (save Visas)

Starkiller:

NOT ripping down a Star Destroyer (it was already falling. He says it in the game and it's shown in the book. All he did was guide it so that it hit the cannon)
NOT beating Palpatine (Palpatine let him win - again, pretty clear in the game and very clear in the book). When Palpatine was actually trying, Starkiller could barely resist the Lightning. However, it was impressive that he was able to resist it at all, and even cause it to backfire (but again: Starkiller died and Palpatine walked away without a scratch)
Beating Darth Vader (kind of impressive, but Vader isn't that good)

#9 Posted by NightFang (9224 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Darth Vader.

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#10 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

*sigh* This thread makes me sad....

#11 Posted by Jotham (4564 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan: Hey, all I know is if it was Starkiller instead of Luke, the original trilogy would've been about fifteen minutes long. The Imperial soldiers would have been too busy voiding their bowels as they flew through the air to build a second Death Star.

#12 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Exar Kun/Naga Sadow.

#13 Posted by Deranged Midget (13038 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Yoda is more powerful than Palpatine isn't he? In ROTS, it was pretty clear he was better with a lightsaber, and easily countered Palpatine's force lightning.
Just out of curiosity, was Obi-Wan more powerful than Anakin at the end of ROTS, considering they were both in their prime.

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#14 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

" Yoda is more powerful than Palpatine isn't he? In ROTS, it was pretty clear he was better with a lightsaber, and easily countered Palpatine's force lightning. Just out of curiosity, was Obi-Wan more powerful than Anakin at the end of ROTS, considering they were both in their prime. "

No, Yoda technically lost that fight.

Matching feats with feats, Palpatine is a lot stronger.

No. That battle, you could say, was the result of CIS. Anakin was stupid and attacked Obi-Wan without using his head.

#15 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

" Luke Skywalker, Palpatine, and Darth Nihilus are the strongest.

@Jotham said:
" There have been threads discussing this before. I said Starkiller, and everyone was like: "Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! There's a guy in this one book who's ten times as powerful as Starkiller!" "
Starkiller = weakling. "

Luke? No way, you saw what Exar did to him, correct?

#16 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@geraldthesloth:

1. I don't think that was Grandmaster Luke.
2. Exar Kun is also one of the strongest in Star Wars. I forgot to mention him and Naga Sadow. Shame on me.

#17 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

" @geraldthesloth: 1. I don't think that was Grandmaster Luke. 2. Exar Kun is also one of the strongest in Star Wars. I forgot to mention him and Naga Sadow. Shame on me. "

1.It was Grandmaster Luke after he built the new praxadim or whatever it's called on Yavin 4, Kun's spirit appeared and ripped the soul straight from Luke.

#18 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@geraldthesloth:

My mistake.

What I mentioned about Exar is still true, though.

#19 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

" @geraldthesloth: My mistake. What I mentioned about Exar is still true, though. "

Oh, I agree since the two of them made my list..I was just saying since everyone's bound to say Luke.

#20 Posted by Deranged Midget (13038 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan: Ok, are matching up all feats or just from the end of the film? I would say they were on par considering that Palpatine was surprised that Yoda was absorbing the attack and they both flew off. Kind of off-topic but who would you consider best with a lightsaber/best swordsman?

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#21 Posted by Primmaster64 (21136 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan: lol!

#22 Posted by JediXMan (22968 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@Primmaster64 said:

" @JediXMan: lol! "

What?

@Deranged Midget said:

" @JediXMan: Ok, are matching up all feats or just from the end of the film? I would say they were on par considering that Palpatine was surprised that Yoda was absorbing the attack and they both flew off. Kind of off-topic but who would you consider best with a lightsaber/best swordsman? "

We're comparing all canon feats. Yoda pales to others.

The best swordsmen are:

Marka Ragnos
Yoda (best during the time of the Clone Wars, anyway)
Kyle Katarn
Mace Windu (second best during the Clone Wars. Note: the Clone Wars weren't home to the best Jedi or Sith)
Jacen Solo
Luke Skywalker
Palpatine
Exar Kun

That's off the top of my head.

#23 Posted by Amegashita (3601 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Jedi Exile! Okay, I'm kidding. Luke Skywalker is one who I'd put up as the most powerful.

#24 Posted by Primmaster64 (21136 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan: Because you are the SW expert.

#25 Posted by Pizawle (1074 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

George Lucas.

Cry because you know it to be true.

#26 Posted by Black Lantern Mar-vell (1488 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

George Lucas

#27 Posted by blackadam (2137 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

"*sigh* This thread makes me sad.... "

sorry, that wasnt my intention i only wanted to discuss this topic.

#28 Posted by GT-Man (4054 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

everyone

#29 Edited by BiteMe-Fanboy (6543 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXman:
And i thought I knew alot about Star Wars... You know a lot about the expanded universe, that's where my knowledge is limited. I so need to start reading more Star Wars comics. >_>.

But I agree with your choices.
Palpatine
Luke
Nihilus

Starkiller is pure crap.

#30 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15259 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Luke Skywalker

#31 Posted by Primmaster64 (21136 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Its about time to make cartoons or movies about the expanded universe...Not the fraking prequels.

#32 Posted by SilverMan91 (431 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

" @Jotham said:

" @JediXMan: You were one of them, weren't you? "
Probably. Let's match feats: Luke Skywalker: Manipulated black holes Was so fast that he looked like he had 20 lightsabers Can teleport an object (called "fold space") Took a hit from an AT-AT without flinching Knocked over said AT-AT with ease. Rebuilt a fortress with only telekinesis (and later destroyed it with the same method) Palpatine: Creating a worm hole that was capable of either transporting a single person from one planet to another or ripping an entire fleet to pieces. Transferred his soul into other bodies. Beat Luke Skywalker in Lightsaber combat (though to be fair, Luke wasn't as good as he'd later be. He was still at the level where he took a hit from that AT-AT - yeah, that's Luke before he reached his prime) Mass Force-drain (drained the population of Byss slowly over time) Darth Nihilus: Held together a ship through sheer willpower. Transferred his soul into objects and could posses / animate them (that was his armor, not his body, that was in KOTOR II) "Spoke" and killed every living thing on a planet (save Visas) Starkiller: NOT ripping down a Star Destroyer (it was already falling. He says it in the game and it's shown in the book. All he did was guide it so that it hit the cannon) NOT beating Palpatine (Palpatine let him win - again, pretty clear in the game and very clear in the book). When Palpatine was actually trying, Starkiller could barely resist the Lightning. However, it was impressive that he was able to resist it at all, and even cause it to backfire (but again: Starkiller died and Palpatine walked away without a scratch) Beating Darth Vader (kind of impressive, but Vader isn't that good) "

do you think usung just sword play he still was the best? mean there were mughty swrod user like mace windu and yoda, and i dont ever remember Luke as the best swordsman (he didnt even master his own three forms if im not mistaken, please correct me if i am)

#33 Posted by skullduggery pleasant (54 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

" @Jotham said:
" @JediXMan: You were one of them, weren't you? "
Probably. Let's match feats: Luke Skywalker: Manipulated black holes Was so fast that he looked like he had 20 lightsabers Can teleport an object (called "fold space") Took a hit from an AT-AT without flinching Knocked over said AT-AT with ease. Rebuilt a fortress with only telekinesis (and later destroyed it with the same method) Palpatine: Creating a worm hole that was capable of either transporting a single person from one planet to another or ripping an entire fleet to pieces. Transferred his soul into other bodies. Beat Luke Skywalker in Lightsaber combat (though to be fair, Luke wasn't as good as he'd later be. He was still at the level where he took a hit from that AT-AT - yeah, that's Luke before he reached his prime) Mass Force-drain (drained the population of Byss slowly over time) Darth Nihilus: Held together a ship through sheer willpower. Transferred his soul into objects and could posses / animate them (that was his armor, not his body, that was in KOTOR II) "Spoke" and killed every living thing on a planet (save Visas) Starkiller: NOT ripping down a Star Destroyer (it was already falling. He says it in the game and it's shown in the book. All he did was guide it so that it hit the cannon) NOT beating Palpatine (Palpatine let him win - again, pretty clear in the game and very clear in the book). When Palpatine was actually trying, Starkiller could barely resist the Lightning. However, it was impressive that he was able to resist it at all, and even cause it to backfire (but again: Starkiller died and Palpatine walked away without a scratch) Beating Darth Vader (kind of impressive, but Vader isn't that good) "

Take into consideration that when Luke was able to manipulate black holes and do all those great feats, he was of an oldler age, had more experience, and more training. If you compare Starkiller with Skywalker when Starkiller was still alive, he would be considered as one of the most powerful force users at the time out of the Jedi. If he lived on, which he does in somewhat of a way in the force unleashed 2, his power would grow, making him stronger, and probably stronger than Luke. The reason why they didnt do this in the game, along as the reason why he wasnt able to kill Palpatine was because it would interrupt the original story, making several fans of the series angry.
He may not be the strongest of all the force welders, but he is definitely close.

#34 Posted by Larkin1388 (1760 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

No one can be the most powerful bc no one has mastered the force and everyones skills vary... Yoda may be better at telekinesis and lacking in force lightning while someone else would be the opposite. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and everyone will eventually meet their match

#35 Posted by hydrabob (14972 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

uh where's Revan on this list or is he canon?

#36 Posted by GTG12 (1545 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I would say Luke, Yoda, and Palpatine. Sorry for bump.

#37 Posted by GTG12 (1545 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Yes Revan is canon idk why he isnt on here. But he's also in a videogame so i guess thats it.

#38 Posted by dementedtheclown (736 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I'd like to see Yoda in his prime

#39 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1583 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Power?

It has always fascinated me, throughout both trilogies, that the Sith and other evil characters gauge each-other on the basis of 'powerful' or 'weak'. The Jedi, by contrast, prefer to use the phrase 'strong in the Force'. So we have a number of examples of collapsing this or destroying that. But perhaps the greatest feats of the Force have little or nothing to do with the physical? Perhaps they are a more invisible, cerebral effort that can't be adapted to combat.

#40 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (6543 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

#41 Posted by LordMaverick (4388 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

not sure, Anikin was supossed to be some sort of prodigy.......

The Force

The Force is an energy field that binds together all life in the Star Wars universe. Only some have the power to wield it - either as a force for the Light Side or the Dark Side of the Force.

Darth Vader.

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