Why does The Doctor take 'companions'?

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#1 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

i've often wondered this and thought i'd finally bring it out for everyone to answer...

it's not an easy question to answer as it had many possible answers but none of them fit completely...

The Doctor has always travveled with a companion, Human, Alien, Time Lord, Robotic or otherwise... but the main question is why...

why does he need someone?

you'll note that he is very rarely, if ever, alone...

he's stated several times that he needs someone... but needs them for what?

Martha said it was because he was lonely... that i can understand, he's over 900 years old and watched his family, his friends, his entire planet turn to dust and crumble in the time war...

Donna said it was to hold him back... again, that i can understand... when he didn't have a companion he is very deadly and has exterminated several alien species completely if noone is there to help him with the better angels of his nature...

Jack said it was to show someone else the universe through his eyes... that i can sort of understand... He's seen so much, done so much... to see it all through fresh eyes would be a pleasure after seeing the entirity of time and space...

Rose never answered the question... but several other companions have, always giving different answers...

M

#2 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

well, as i've just updated the Doctor Who page with full listings for all Companions i thought here would be a good time to talk about them...

come on, doesn't anyone have an answer to my question?

M

#3 Posted by Hawkette (57 posts) - - Show Bio

Anything i could think of you answered up there modthos!

I have always thought it was because he is naturally a teacher, he loves to pass on his knowledge to someone else and I think he actually gets to see the universe through their eyes, with wonder and joy.. he has seen it all but he delights in showing them..


#4 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

thats actually a good point...

i never thought of The Doctor as a teacher before, but i suppose that is what he is doing all of the time...

good call Hawkette

M

#5 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks my modthos darling!


Its a chick thing, we can see the other side of life! ^_^

But asisde from the obvious I think the doctor needs a companion  also cause it shows how humans cant live without each other, it demonstrates our desires and drives to never be alone!

god im smart in this character as well

#6 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, but neither The Doctor, nor a lot of his companions have been human...

some have been alien, android or any number of different things...

i agree the The Doctor just doesn't want to be alone, he's dangerous when he's alone lol

M

#7 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

OH NO

I mean that the writers are showing that human base desire that we all have trouble being alone!

Not that the doc and his companions are human! silly!

#8 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm maybe...

dunno...

it's always interesting to talk about his motivations though

M

#9 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe?

Idk, maybe he secretly shags them all.... ROFL

#10 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

roflol...

well, i'm sure there are 'other' uses for the Sonic Screwdriver lol

and we don't know if The Doctor is straight or even has sex... he did get off with Captain Jack don't forget...

M

#11 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

ROFL GREAT now i have sonic screwdriver fantasies!!

I would say he is much like Capt Jack... or even Capt Kirk..... he goes with his feelings rather than his head.....

I mean we have seen that he was in love with Rose.. or at least it was HEAVILY implied....


#12 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

it was implied he was in love with Rose...

it was also implied he was in love with Grace...

also implied he was in love with Romana...

he goes through women quickly lol

M

#13 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its a mix of different things, but lets point out the last two before Donna.

Martha she became a companion in my eyes because he was truly lonely after Rose. He gave his heart to her and it was never meant to be, leaving her at Badwolf was the last for him emotionally. He realized that being alive for 900+ years that if he is to continue going on he needs someone their with him. She later became more to him though as he has refered to during Donnas run as companion, and others have pointed out that he didnt want another companion that he would come to love. Which is why he was so reluctant with Donna. Theirs loneliness

With Rose I think it was mostly to show the universe to her With chris that is.  The ninth doctor was real distant in his emotions almost shutting them off in some episodes but he did show on many occasions that he did care for rose. BUT i think at that time he just wanted to show the worlds to Rose. Then David (tenth) came and I almost think a complete change on his entire emotions (if that sounds stupid ill elaberate) his emotions were almost heightened during his time in this regeneration with Rose. I feel that it was both wanting to show her the worlds and his lonlieness too.

Donna....well im still thinking about her

#14 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm very true...

Aside from Capt Jack do we knwo of any other male friends who he enjoyed hanging out with.... lmao

#15 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree in parts DC...

i definitely agree about 9th's emotions...

but that was explained, after he lost Grace in the Medusa Cascade (She died during the time war) he just closed off so he could do what needed to be done...

this was further explained in the last episode where you saw the clone doctor (I'll call him 10.5 for now), where The Doctor realised that 10.5 was born in blood, war and fire... much like 9 had been when he regenerated from 8 in the middle of the time war...

Rose made him a better person so 10 could share his emotions again...

M

#16 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"i agree in parts DC...

i definitely agree about 9th's emotions...

but that was explained, after he lost Grace in the Medusa Cascade (She died during the time war) he just closed off so he could do what needed to be done...

this was further explained in the last episode where you saw the clone doctor (I'll call him 10.5 for now), where The Doctor realised that 10.5 was born in blood, war and fire... much like 9 had been when he regenerated from 8 in the middle of the time war...

Rose made him a better person so 10 could share his emotions again...

M
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yeah i agree with you

But i feel that he wanted to try again in many instances. Martha was the biggest example of this in his emotions.

But I wish we could see more of 10.5 because i think him being part human would allow us as viewers to see the doctors darker emotions and even his true emotions. Because us humans one flaw...we express our emotions too much.
#17 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm again good points....

Rose was like his angel of redemption... she reignited his love for life and helped him to be passionate!

#18 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah... i would love to see more of 10.5 and Rose...

that could be an interesting series, we could see a darker side of 10

M

#19 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"yeah... i would love to see more of 10.5 and Rose...

that could be an interesting series, we could see a darker side of 10

M
"
yeah it would have been awesome.
#20 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio
Leaves and lets the boys talk it out... :-(
#21 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm not sure where i stand on Martha...

she stated several times that she was in love with The Doctor, but again he was really closed off around here... that could be attributed to him losing Rose and trying to move on so quickly...

M

#22 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"i'm not sure where i stand on Martha...

she stated several times that she was in love with The Doctor, but again he was really closed off around here... that could be attributed to him losing Rose and trying to move on so quickly...

M
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well DUH
#23 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

lol... but then again he did fall in love while he was human with Martha... well, he didn't fall in love with Martha lol

also i'm not sure if he falls in love with individuals, or if he has just fallen in love with the Human race in general

M

#24 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"i'm not sure where i stand on Martha...

she stated several times that she was in love with The Doctor, but again he was really closed off around here... that could be attributed to him losing Rose and trying to move on so quickly...

M
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yeah i know but...grr. hes so complex beyond his infinite knowledge of everything hes a moron when it comes to women
#25 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
Darkchild said:
yeah i know but...grr. hes so complex beyond his infinite knowledge of everything hes a moron when it comes to women
"

we've already established he's definitely male lol

M
#26 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

I have one answer for this..

The doctor doesnt need companions. He doesnt have to travel or even have the need to travel with someone. its simply because he wants too. Or at least thats how I see it.

He doesnt need them, he just simply wants them

#27 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"lol... but then again he did fall in love while he was human with Martha... well, he didn't fall in love with Martha lol

also i'm not sure if he falls in love with individuals, or if he has just fallen in love with the Human race in general

M
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Ooh good point!!

Darkchild said:
"Methos said:
"i'm not sure where i stand on Martha...

she stated several times that she was in love with The Doctor, but again he was really closed off around here... that could be attributed to him losing Rose and trying to move on so quickly...

M
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yeah i know but...grr. hes so complex beyond his infinite knowledge of everything hes a moron when it comes to women
"
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

APPLAUDS WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO TRUE SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

its always the uber smart ones that miss whats right in front of em!!


#28 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"Darkchild said:
yeah i know but...grr. hes so complex beyond his infinite knowledge of everything hes a moron when it comes to women
"

we've already established he's definitely male lol

M
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LMAO

Kiara_Sullivan
said:
"

I have one answer for this..

The doctor doesnt need companions. He doesnt have to travel or even have the need to travel with someone. its simply because he wants too. Or at least thats how I see it.

He doesnt need them, he just simply wants them

"
awesome point
#29 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

I am very smart when I wanna be DC :P

#30 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
Kiara_Sullivan said:
"

I have one answer for this..

The doctor doesnt need companions. He doesnt have to travel or even have the need to travel with someone. its simply because he wants too. Or at least thats how I see it.

He doesnt need them, he just simply wants them

"

i think he needs them more than he wants them....

sort of a replacement family for the family he lost during the wars

M
#31 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Kiara_Sullivan said:
"I am very smart when I wanna be DC :P"
really so its a once in a while thing :P
#32 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio
Kiara_Sullivan said:
"

I have one answer for this..

The doctor doesnt need companions. He doesnt have to travel or even have the need to travel with someone. its simply because he wants too. Or at least thats how I see it.

He doesnt need them, he just simply wants them

"
nice!
#33 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

But you see Methos, thats where it goes hand in hand. Its a fact of needing and wanting something. Sure metaphorically those two things are completely different. You can need something and not want them. But in this case its the same. The doctors needs them at times and wants them at others. When he gained Martha he didnt exactly want her but a part of him did need her.

#34 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

thats fair...

but i got the feeling through the Martha series that he tried to get rid of her many times, much like he did with Mel until she actually left to persue her own adventures...

M

#35 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

If you didnt want something but apart of you did need it would you not try to push it away. The Doctor is not human but thats a very human thing. I dont want to be in love with someone, but my heart needs it. It's this one big loop that we cant get rid of.

#36 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

SIDE NOTE

can someone send me a link to be able to download season 2 of Torchwood...

#37 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

Desid, I may have a site you can watch it on for free.. Let me check to see if its there first

#38 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

thats true Kiara...

again, he's so complecated lol

also, random plug here...

can i please have help with the following pages...

Rose Tyler



http://www.comicvine.com/rose-tyler/29-55700/

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Captain Jack Harkness



http://www.comicvine.com/captain-jack-harkness/29-55878/

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Martha Jones



http://www.comicvine.com/martha-jones/29-51580/

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Torchwood



http://www.comicvine.com/torchwood-3/65-55717/

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Gwen Cooper



http://www.comicvine.com/gwen-cooper/29-55875/

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Ianto Jones



http://www.comicvine.com/ianto-jones/29-55877/

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Owen Harper



http://www.comicvine.com/owen-harper/29-55879/

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Toshiko Sato



http://www.comicvine.com/toshiko-sato/29-55876/

Very basic page

Sonic Screwdriver



http://www.comicvine.com/sonic-screwdriver/18-55684/

Very basic page

TARDIS



http://www.comicvine.com/tardis/18-55682/

Very basic page


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basically, now that i've got back to doing The Doctor's page, i'm focusing on that now, so i don't want to wander off and start working on these pages and lose my focus from The Doctor...

so any help with the Doctor Who Universe stuff would be greatly appreciated

M

#39 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

Im only just starting on torchwood so i cnat do much for Jack but i will add to rose etc.. if i know enough

#40 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm supposed to be doing Roses page xP I'll get started tomorrow on it. I been prodrastinating big time on it :P

#41 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

anything...

any help would be appreciated...

i'll move onto them when i've finished The Doctor's page alright?

M

#42 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"thats true Kiara...

again, he's so complecated lol

also, random plug here...

can i please have help with the following pages...

Rose Tyler



http://www.comicvine.com/rose-tyler/29-55700/

page empty

Captain Jack Harkness



http://www.comicvine.com/captain-jack-harkness/29-55878/

Page empty

Martha Jones



http://www.comicvine.com/martha-jones/29-51580/

Page very basic

Torchwood



http://www.comicvine.com/torchwood-3/65-55717/

Page empty

Gwen Cooper



http://www.comicvine.com/gwen-cooper/29-55875/

Page Empty

Ianto Jones



http://www.comicvine.com/ianto-jones/29-55877/

Page empty

Owen Harper



http://www.comicvine.com/owen-harper/29-55879/

Page Empty

Toshiko Sato



http://www.comicvine.com/toshiko-sato/29-55876/

Very basic page

Sonic Screwdriver



http://www.comicvine.com/sonic-screwdriver/18-55684/

Very basic page

TARDIS



http://www.comicvine.com/tardis/18-55682/

Very basic page


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basically, now that i've got back to doing The Doctor's page, i'm focusing on that now, so i don't want to wander off and start working on these pages and lose my focus from The Doctor...

so any help with the Doctor Who Universe stuff would be greatly appreciated

M

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OWEN!

okay without sounding gay

HES MINE

ill go finally finish watching Torchwood season one and fill in his page
#43 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
Darkchild said:
OWEN!

okay without sounding gay

HES MINE

ill go finally finish watching Torchwood season one and fill in his page
"

roflol...

well, The Doctor's mine lol

M
#44 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

Aww DC I wanted Owen I lvoe him.. I guess I could work on Ianto's too

#45 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"Darkchild said:
OWEN!

okay without sounding gay

HES MINE

ill go finally finish watching Torchwood season one and fill in his page
"

roflol...

well, The Doctor's mine lol

M
"
alright that works
#46 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

does everyone like all the stuff i've added to The Doctor's page?

i've really fleshed out his background now along with a lot more history about Gallifrey and his family

i've covered about 200 years of The Doctor now, only another 700 to go, along with Technology and other stuff...

i also really fleshed out the Companions part, i'll do mini bios on the Companions that didn't appear as main characters but the main ones from comics i want to have main pages

M

#47 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

OK ill take Gwen then.... though i can only do season one info


AND METHOS THE DOCTOR IS MINE MINE MINE

#48 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30075 posts) - - Show Bio

I havent looked at it yet :P

#49 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
Desiderina Redhead said:
"OK ill take Gwen then.... though i can only do season one info


AND METHOS THE DOCTOR IS MINE MINE MINE
"

ok... but i want Romana... she was so hot :p

M
#50 Posted by Desiderina Redhead (4413 posts) - - Show Bio
smacks self in head

what bout Donna?


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