Ok, so we have the Darkness, Jackie Estacado and his whole story line he cannot have sex or else he would die instantly.  He dies in Volume # 1 issue # 40.  He comes back to life in Volume 2.  Then First Born comes along and messes with my head, because he is the father of Sarah's (witchblade) baby is Jackie Estacado.  Wouldn't Jackie DIE??  If he conceives a child he is supposed to die or that is what his whole background is about.  Oh and NOW Elle is pregnant with Jackie's baby in the newest issue.  Elle is made from the Darkness power and made to be an independent being with the help of the creepy Doctor guy.  My question is...IF Jackie Estacado cannot conceieve unless dying why is he still alive??  Not that I am complaining Darkness is on my favorite comic list, but I am very confused!!!   Help a fan girl out people!!!!

The Darkness had the baby with Sarah, not Jackie (his body was there but The Darkness did all the work) so it didn't count. With Elle, she's not a human so I guess that doesn't count either. Must have to be a human/human thing, no supernatural beings involved.

Well I don't know about the new baby in Elle but from what I read the Darkness is really hopes father not Jackie and he can probably impregnant her because she is made from the Darkness power so their would be no need for Jackie to die to transfer the powers(only a guess)

I would have to say both of you are correct in the matter.  I was just confused because it kept saying in the comic...absolutely no conceiving or else Jackie would die!  If it is supernatural and Jackie basically had no part (well an unknown part ) in the making of baby Hope.  Elle is the Darkness power in human form.  So basically the Darkness got Sarah pregnant and Jackie got Elle pregnant.  I am really hoping they clear up some things later in the comic series!!

I don't think Jackie got Elle pregnant, it was the doctor I think that artificially impregnated her and I don't think it was with Jackie's DNA, but his own.  Don't quote me on any of that, but I think that's what's going on.

Yup Darkness was the one who knocked up Sara, weird that the balance (witchblade) let it happen.

Now Dani should have half of an Angelus child just to keep that balance.

"Now Dani should have half of an Angelus child just to keep that balance."

it can possess a man for a few minutes....or let one of it's many minions do the work

"it can possess a man for a few minutes....or let one of it's many minions do the work"

But the "balance" is now in favor of the darkness. Maybe Hope will die.

Perhaps...On the Top Cow site I read someone in the Broken Trinity will die.

Celestine Died

But the Angelus didn't.   It was stated a character would die off for good.

The host dying wasn't enough?

Angelus is a spirit energy who took over Celestine's body.  Just like it took over Uncle Frankie's wife.  (Volume 1 Darkness)

Yes and in Broken Trinity number 3, Michael Finnigan chopped off celestine's head, i think, expelling the Angelus from her body.

Yes he did.  ;)  But Angelus is not out of the game yet. 

Of course not, but can it do anything without it's host? and where did Jackie's darkness go?

Angelus needs a host...usually it picks a female and takes over her.  As for Jackie's Darkness I am still trying to figure out that one myself! LOL

Actually I'm not sure The Angelus is the same as it was before.  I'm not sure if that Angelus One Shot during Pilot Season is canon or not; but after Patience threw off the Angelus, she said that it's contact with her had changed it. And when Celestine joined with the Angelus, well they joined forces rather than the Angelus taking her over as it had pervious hosts.

"Actually I'm not sure The Angelus is the same as it was before.  I'm not sure if that Angelus One Shot during Pilot Season is canon or not; but after Patience threw off the Angelus, she said that it's contact with her had changed it. And when Celestine joined with the Angelus, well they joined forces rather than the Angelus taking her over as it had pervious hosts.
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Ah, well thanks for the clear up. Still that's a lot going on and one small little planet on which to happen.  Things are bound to get insane before it's all over.

Some of the thirteen has shown up though.  Spear of Destiny--Magdalen has it.  Excalibur--Ian Nottingham has it.  And a few others I can't remember right now.  I think Tom Judge has an item too???

Does Tom still have the Rapture? i never finished reading "Universe"

just to clear things up. Excalibur was part of witchblade, Sara merged it with her witchblade in Witchblade #75. Tom Judge is dead, his body is shown in Witchblade #78. Rapture is somewhere in limbo, shown in Tomb Raider #48

Well there goes my ending to Universe. I liked the Rapture, i want someone to find it and wield it. Whatever happened to Tilly?

Tilly's future is left open, she is suspected in Tom murder, but Sara Pezzini tells her that she will do everything in her power to convince her superiors of her innocence.

"just to clear things up. Excalibur was part of witchblade, Sara merged it with her witchblade in Witchblade #75. Tom Judge is dead, his body is shown in Witchblade #78. Rapture is somewhere in limbo, shown in Tomb Raider #48

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