The fate of this world balances upon thirteen objects of power. Thirteen artifacts, each in the possession of a bearer. Separately, 13 Artifacts guide the fate of the universe. Together, 13 artifacts will end the universe. The 13 artifacts that exist in the Top Cow Universe.
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The other thread was in Broken Trinity page so I though we need something similar here. So, thread about these 13 artifacts and speculation of which could be the remaining ones.
So first one was kind of shown to us, a balance between Glacier and Ember Stone.
Balance between Ember and Glacier Stone
Then there is this icon, This could be Heartstone or Coin of Sulaiman, shown in Witchblade 75...then again it also could be an artifact that Sonatine used. Coin of SulaimanSonatine's Artifact
Now there are only 3 left, one of them can only be Wheel of shadows for obvious wheel like appearance, that leave two more Wheel of Shadows
Triangle and Skull....Life and Death?...if so, Life, I remember seeing weave referred as to "Life". But then again Triangle was used by a certain pyromancer, rumored to wield the power of the gods WeaveFire
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A little update: Sonatine's artifact drops from being potential artifact, it is in fact related to Weave, it turned into bluish orb in Witchblade #58 In other news, Pyromancer, drops down in artifact list due do being a fire power, as we already have Fire represented in form of Ember Stone.
But shifting through Darkness hoping to find said items name, I spotted forgotten power written by current Witchblade writer Ron Marz
So new possible one of thirteen - The Smoke Dragons (official name unknown)
"A little update: Sonatine's artifact drops from being potential artifact, it is in fact related to Weave, it turned into bluish orb in Witchblade #58 In other news, Pyromancer, drops down in artifact list due do being a fire power, as we already have Fire represented in form of Ember Stone.
But shifting through Darkness hoping to find said items name, I spotted forgotten power written by current Witchblade writer Ron Marz
So new possible one of thirteen - The Smoke Dragons (official name unknown) smokin'"
wait a minute... related as in... it's a piece of the Weave, or related like The WItchblade, ANgelus, and darkness?
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Not quite sure how it's related, but it turned into this orb and the flew by some dead persons reviving them. These persons later went where the weave was buried, and got killed. So I'm guessing it was some small part of Weave.
The Bloodsword, yes that is one of the thirteen. Curator handed it to Finnegan after Broken Trinity event, and sent him on a quest to find balance of his own.
It seems that curator has some plans for Finn, for if he finds the balance, he then possesses 3 artifacts.
In subject of artifacts that triangle pic is awful familiar to Holy grail box, and the sign of illuminati. Or could it be something different, an opposite of Grail? ...seeing as the triangle is inverted..
TriangleGrail BoxIlluminatiGrail it self
Edit: And another potential artifact the Black Pearl aka Demon Gem. User can transform into different dragon-like creature, inhibiting super-human strenght and durability (withstands an explosion of a fuel truck). It was what first brought Lara Croft and Sara Pezzini together. DragonBlack Pearl
Well at first I set this up to collect information about the 13 Artifacts on one page from the internet, but with all your help and support KillerZ, you turned into something really great. Thank you very much and a really great friend KillerZ.
A character named Shine battled Pezzini few times, but Witchblade called him Betoig. Is he a character Witchblade fought previously, or is he something more? Maybe one of the 13...
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Speaking of Glacier and Ember balance I can see why that is it. One: The Ember was a snake and clearly the one flashing red is a snake. Two: They shine two colors, one represent fire and the other ice.
But, now, I'm trying to figure out what kind of animal that is. I thought horse for a moment due to the hair. But, then how does it fit with ice?
found another powerful character, He seems to be Kain....Cain (however you spell that) the first murderer world ever saw, he has lived tens of thousands years he even planned to end the world. Right know he is known as Baron, he appeared in Arcanum comics.
murderer
Edit: funny thing about this char is that he was written in 1997, but this guy Zazalamel was introduced into Soul Calibur game in 2005, anyone notices the resemblance? Zazalamel also was immortal and his trade mark was one golden eye that accompanied him through reincarnations. BaronZazalamel 1Zazalamel 2
Top Cow with it's artifacts is cool world, other comic publisher also have some sort of collection of powerful artifacts, but they don't integrate them into their world as much as Cows do. I personally like that connection hinting thing they have going as well, like villains named Kenneth Irons and Gavin Taylor in witchblade book appear in Ascension. Or Darkness bearer Lord Cardinale, he's head that was cut of in Medieval Spawn and Witchblade crossover appears in Arcanum issues, along with villain named Royale. Actually in Arcanum most of cow-verse characters quest appear: Cyberforce, Sara Pezzini, Leviathan from Weapon Zero. ...Now I got myself all hyped out, and need to search more connections.
Edit: And a connection I found... I wanted to post another speculation about Weave but found something more, something that I missed earlier. In Evo one-shot Tarsem speaks of his past, he traveled back in time, but a bit too much, he ended up tens of thousands years. It's better to explain it with his own words from that comic.
"Since then I lay, powerless and dreaming, until ironically a burst of your power awakened me.*"
and that * had an explanation "as seen in family ties crossovers years back". So we got a confirmation that that entity released from bonding Darkness and Witchblade, is in fact Weave, a child if you will. I had a suspicion about it, because the word-play used by Top Cow. Family Ties cross over ended with words "The game is only beginning", and Weave appeared in crossover "Endgame".
I started thinking again, about the first 7 and then the 13. What if, when devil talked to Tom Judge about the seven artifacts, there only was 7. But an old prophecy talked about 13, even had the scroll of 13 made. One day new artifacts started to appear: Weave was created by union of witchblade and darkness. Seeing how Spear of Destiny wasn't in original 7. maybe it received some extra power that rose it to the level of 13 artifacts...maybe we were even shown that...
After rereading one of Top Cows comics, Cursed. I started to wonder what if the Osiris Amulet is one of the 13 as well, and how far is Shan finding in all the pieces.
Well what i understood from Witchblade #125, is that this guy represents the Darkness, hence him fighting the Angelus. It seems slighly odd though since it should be Jackie Estacado who stands there instead of the old guy, but since jackie kinda lost his Darkness powers and the writers said there wouldn't be any major cross-overs in this arc that they solve it this way?
I'm doubting that he's a darkness creation, mostly because how he took care of angelus soldiers. That flash of light would of destroyed him... although that Darkness messenger, in the desert, created a rose garden not in total darkness, but at sundown.
Edit: shifting through that issue some more, and does he takes his leave in form of orb of some sort of light?
Edit II: I just thought of something... this dark old dude, Tau'Ma, he has a wheel like tattoo on his head, could he be the wielder of Wheel of Shadows. He is revealed to be the brother of Curator in latest issue, and if he has one of the 13, could Curator have one as well?
Last seen wielder We have a confirmation of one Artifact. Coin of Solomon is in fact one of the 13: Source. I have also been told by none other than Sejic himself that Weave is definitely not one of the 13. So now we have only two unnamed artifacts, their will be revealed in next summer, in "Artifact" series. One artifact was shown to us it was the balance between Glacier and Ember Stone
" It seems that curator has some plans for Finn, for if he finds the balance, he then possesses 3 artifacts.
In subject of artifacts that triangle pic is awful familiar to Holy grail box, and the sign of illuminati. Or could it be something different, an opposite of Grail? ...seeing as the triangle is inverted.. TriangleGrail BoxIlluminatiGrail it self
Edit: And another potential artifact the Black Pearl aka Demon Gem. User can transform into different dragon-like creature, inhibiting super-human strenght and durability (withstands an explosion of a fuel truck). It was what first brought Lara Croft and Sara Pezzini together. DragonBlack Pearl
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I think the Triangle is maybe an opposite to the weel of shadows . and guys here is the cover for the upcoming artifacts series I saw it on comicvine . But It`s a little bit stupid cause dani has the witchblade on this picture and not the angelus .
@BoOMbOoMpOw: judging by the location on the scroll: inverted triangle, aka The Heart Stone, should be the opposite of that skull thingy, and their balance is Coin of Solomon. Wheel of Shadow and Rapture should be natural opposites.
Look at the tatoo of David Worthy . That was the symbole of the holy Grail itself or of the people wich drank from the grail something like that , and it looks very similar to the symbole of the triangle . So the theory that the triangle is the grail could be right.
The biggest questions would be what makes a given artefact one of the Thirtheen? I mean the bloodsword was created by a mortal, a shaman who bound a demon in the blade and yet it is considered one of the thirtheen. This leads to speculate origin has nothing to do with it. The Angelus and the Darkness are primordial creations from before humanity while the Bloodsword is clearly at least periphically a product of humanity as was the Rapture whom, if memory serves me right (please correct me if I'm wrong), was created by a mortal alchemist.
I also wonder if these thirtheen artefacts are the most important items in the universe, could there still be items of lesser power? For that matter, are these purported 13 artefacts really the most important or just part of an ensemble linked by destiny?
That said can anyone compile a list for me of the artefacts that have been officially recognized as part of the Thirteen?
still I wonder, as said above, what makes an artifact one of the thirteen specially? What criteria and are there other similar artifact sets or other less important artifacts for that matter...
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