So, with the New 52 (which I love, btw), obviously some past events are still canon while others have been removed.

Based on what I've read, I'm curious ... which incarnation of the Teen Titans are we on now? The 1st or 2nd? There seems to be some conflicting evidence...

Exhibit A) In TT#4, Red Robin announces the name of the team as if it is something he just came up with. His teammate, Bunker, also reacts as if it is a name he's never heard before...

RedRobin: "I was thinking something like... Teen Titans."

Bunker: "It's sexy. Alliterative. I like it."

Exhibit B) In RHATO#6 we see a flashback in which Nightwing is leading Starfire and Arsenal in battle. Arsenal refers to Nightwing as "boss." Could this possibly be any scenario other than a previous incarnation of the Teen Titans??

Thanks in advance for all info and/or theories!!

Originally there was meant to be a team before the current one but DC decided that wasn't the case, they said there was another team but they never went by the name "Teen Titans".

Lobdell did say that Tim Drake read a comic when he was younger called Teen Titans and that inspired him to use that name.

Lame.

@Onemoreposter said:

Lame.

x2

@htb106 said:

Originally there was meant to be a team before the current one but DC decided that wasn't the case, they said there was another team but they never went by the name "Teen Titans".

Lobdell did say that Tim Drake read a comic when he was younger called Teen Titans and that inspired him to use that name.

OK. That actually works. Thanks! It is a little lame but at least it can hold water.

I mean, super heroes do team ups all the time. I know Spidey always used to be buddies with Human Torch, Beast and Wolverine, but they were never "team mates."

@Onemoreposter said:

Lame.

I agree, VERY LAME. Erasing the history of the most popular Titans team and making it seem as though Tim Drake was the first guy to come up with the Teen Titan name is just lame, & insulting to the fan base who know better. I could accept Drake taking on the responsibility of carrying on the Titans legacy, but not that he and his group are the first official Teen Titans and that the ones prior were just a bunch of loosely organized super pals with no name.

New 52 has been making mistakes left and right, but what they've done to the Titans is the worst by far. Altering tidbits of Titan history to fit modern times or erasing newer or less popular storylines to make way for new ones is one thing, but making it so that the adventures of Wolfman's & Perez's titans NEVER HAPPENED is just EPIC FAIL on the grandest scale possible. Not to mention the new lineup of Titans is far from being all that inspiring, three ex-sidekicks plus three newbs who just seem to scream "canon fodder" can't replace any of the past lineups, especially not Marv's Titans lineup. Considering how popular and recent the titans cartoon series was (and with a second version on the way), one has to wonder why DC didn't just de-age Starfire, Dick, BB, Raven, & Cy and make them the Titans again and start over from scratch with new stories, its certainly a better call than the one they ultimately made, especially if a complete and total reboot was really necessary (though I still think they didn't have to erase the previous Titan generations just to make it look like the latest team are the first or something).

@htb106 said:

Originally there was meant to be a team before the current one but DC decided that wasn't the case, they said there was another team but they never went by the name "Teen Titans".

Lobdell did say that Tim Drake read a comic when he was younger called Teen Titans and that inspired him to use that name.

When did he say this? (Altho it is exactely how Barry Allen chose his name...by reading about a comic book character called Jay Garrick)

To be fair, Arsenal, Nightwing and Starfire have served together in the Outsiders. That maybe what the flashback was about.