Off My Mind: Should Ted Kord Return from the Dead?
When I read a character's death, it's hard to take it seriously because they do tend to return from the beyond so often. The common argument against deaths is they're meaningless. We may see other characters mourn but eventually the dead character is brought back to life courtesy of comic book magic and a crafty writer.
Ted's death did mean something. He was a character that wasn't being taken seriously. He uncovered Maxwell Lord's big crazy evil plan. He tried getting others to back him up but no one had the time or was willing to go with him. This resulted in Max executing Ted. Ted went out as a hero. He fought Max to the end. Does he deserve to be brought back?
== TEASER ==
Ted standing up to Max and his brutal death lead to Max being seen as a complete villain. This even resulted in Wonder Woman killing Max, which was caught on camera. There were so many repercussions that resulted from Ted's death.
Some of the repercussions have already been diminished with Maxwell Lord being one of the twelve resurrected at the end of Blackest Night. Could Ted be brought back from the dead as well? (And I'm not even going to mention the Black Lantern Ted during Blackest Night).
It almost seems it couldn't happen since Booster Gold has already been all over time trying to figure out how he could save his best friend without destroying the timestream. He has seen different futures so you would think he would know if Ted could and does come back.
I'm not a fan of comic book deaths. They happen too often and the characters return too easily. As much as I liked Ted before, it would be a shame to his character and the death he had if he was simply brought back somehow. I'm sure he could easily be brought back without any serious repercussions. It's probably just a matter of time. Maybe in this situation, Ted should just be allowed to rest in peace.
I like Ted, so I wouldn't mind his return, but yeah, when characters deaths are part o the story and not meaningless (say, like Psimons death), they should be permanent, otherwise there's no reason to have the character killed off in the first place.
As a huge Blue Beetle & Booster Gold fan myself I feel like the goal should be to let Ted rest in peace and have Booster finally come to terms with and accept the fact he is dead. And that no matter what Booster does he can't bring his friend back.
That's my two cents anyway.
Oh god. This is a question I struggle with often. I'm a big Blue Beetle/J.L.I. fan and was looking forward to the return of both Ted Kord and Vic Sage at the end of Blackest Night. As we all know that didnt happen. Now with Barry back there has to be someone who stays dead. I feel like if DC did bring Ted back from the dead what would happen? Seriously, he would hang with Booster in his book until it got cancelled and then we wouldnt see him again for a few years. Then they'd kill him again. Whats the point? Ted's death made Booster Gold a better hero. Ted Kord lives on through Booster's actions. Rest In Peace I say.
I want Ted back. I felt the disrespect paid to his character, and the entire JLI cast, was a desperate attempt by DC to sell how "serious and edgy" the whole Crisis line of stories were. The JLI was one of the best runs of any Justice League incarnations, and the Ted Kord character was a key part of that. He doesn't even need to be the Blue Beetle. I'd love to see him come back as a mentor for Jaime in a new Blue Beetle book.
Why not they (as in comic industry) have only left uncle ben an who else dead?Bucky was brought back an made Captian America with a pretty good stroy line.But DC imho doesnt handle return from the dead as well over all.
But yeah its getn old.One of the resons i like anime is main characters die!Some times unecpectedly.Their deaths some time push the plot in places you didnt expect either.Comics tho unless its not of the big 3 you expect them to bring the character back.
But with Blue Bettle i never expected him to stay dead this long. Since booster gold time travels an all.I just figured he would later on undo it .
If we go by the premise of the 12 characters brought back at the end of Blackest Night and currently going through the Brightest Day title, each of them seems to have been brought back for a specific task in order to fulfill their life's destiny....so to speak.
Under that interpretation I'd say don't bring Ted Kord back because finding out about Max, Checkmate and Brother Eye was like fulfilling his destiny and thus his spirit should be resting peacefully unlike many others.
Of course, I would (and I think others are with me on this) like to see death become permanent in comics. When you think about Superman and Batman (two epic deaths and returns) comics they are always showing futures where Clark and Bruce are dead (most recently in Superman/Batman #75 or #76) and others are carrying on their legacy. As the base age for comic book readers gets older I think both DC and Marvel need to seriously consider making death permanent in order to bring fresh characters around for the next generation of readers, who can then grow up with them and eventually see them die or retire for the next generation.
Sadly, I think the Booster Gold comics have throughly proven that Ted is goin to stay dead. As much as I adore him, it's really is the right way to go... At least at this point in time. Ya never know what DC will try an pull in the future.
I'm conflicted as I do love Ted's Blue Beetle, but feel that Booster Gold has been better without him. I like Booster's current direction as a hero, he's probably one of the most important heroes in the DCU, but has to let everyone think he's still a sell out. It's easy to be the hero when everyone loves you, but it shows how far Booster has come that he's willing to carry on when other heroes look down on him. If they can bring back Ted and not have him and Booster go back towards being the comic relief, but carry on as "the other guys" who take down the big threats while letting others get the glory, that'd be cool.
I sure love seeing Ted in the Booster Gold issues, but I'm guessing they are gonna keep this up until the end of Brightest Day. Booster will try and bring him back to life but Rip will give him the good ol' speech about the past being "solidified time", like when he was trying to save Barbara from getting crippled. He already tried lots of times with the result of alternative messed up realities.
After reading this I just wondered why this issues even came up but it got me thinking. Being a relatively new consistent comic book reader I have not had much exposure to the ramifications of Ted Kord's death. The only book I read were it was a major plot point was in the new blue beetle. I know enough to know that Ted's death was probably the most influential death in the DCU, that hasn't bean written away. I think he should stay dead because it would take some thing away from that pivotal experience. Would Booster Gold be the same with Ted around? How would that effect the new Blue Beetle and would he just be killed again now that Maxwell Lord is hanging around the land of the living. Though I suppose he probably will come back sooner or later. If I could choose how he could come back I would have him be the White Lantern champion that the 13 have to pave the way for. What better champion of life then some one who's loss of life effected so many other lives? Plus it would be crazy to see Maxwell's face when Ted arises from the blinding white light. Just a thought.
If a death is meaningless and fails to produce story fodder, I can see an impetus for returning a character (or if the death itself was just mishandled)... but when the writers use the death to actually tell meaningful stories and where a reasonable avenue exists for continuing to tell stories... I think returning them to life in mainstream time and continuity takes much less precedence.
Take, for example, Uncle Ben. His death was far from meaningless... it spawned one of the greatest hero origin stories of all time. At the same time, you can still tell Uncle Ben stories in flashback. With characters like Blue Beetle and Barry Allen, their deaths paved the road for the next generation who- in my opinion- have stories just as great if not better. Both still make flashback appearances which likely distill if not enhance the perception of their character. And both have legacies in families with time traveling capabilities, who go around the multiverse, etc. Which meant that they could still make repeated appearances just not continually contemporaneously (a time traveling jaunt here and there would be fine). It would seem to me that bringing them back is somewhat unnecessary and undermines a lot of the stories you can tell otherwise (for example, Booster's seen a lot more action and development than he has in years driven by Ted's death).
The irony is that a character like Blue Beetle or Uncle Ben dying has more lasting and meaningful impact than Bruce Wayne or Steve Rogers dying, because we know the latter will be back. That's another reason I'm kinda bugged by Barry Allen coming back... he was a powerful symbol that even the top tier Big Five / JLA Founder / etc. characters could die and stay dead. Now that threat exists only for lesser known characters.
That said, it's all comic books and you can't take this kind of thing too seriously... it comes down to some guy at the top of the chain and if you were in his place you'd make controversial decisions too.
i think i could happen. in the blue and gold story arc of booster gold Ted is saved but the time stream is messed up but at the end Ted goes back and "dies" and everything is fine, BUT if u carry on reading you see someone break into Kord labs and laugh just like Ted.
my theory is that he went back in time to just before he died and either warned that Ted [because in booster gold the same person can be in the same space and time] or made sure he died and then just carried on living. stay out of the way knowing that if he showed up it would ruin the impact of his death.
plus it also means there is a dead ted [lol] to be brought back during blackest night .... =]
i do kinda hope he comes back in the same way i hope Jason Todd becomes a good guy again... o well we can wait and see.
When the Hero says something cool and then the villain kills them, it makes their death even more heroic. Booster and Ted were one of the greatest teams at the time before Ted's death. I don't think Ted should come back to life. I don't really like the concept of "death" in comics, it happens to many times, and then in a week or a month, the heroes (or villains) find away to bring them back to life.
P.S. Where did you get that awesome image of Batman holding Ted's body?
of course it could happen. Death is meaningless in comics. sure the stories can be really good, if not great...but really...they mean nothing. because anyone can return at anytime..all it takes is for the respective company to green-light the return.
I think they could bring Ted back in a way that wouldn't take away from his death, like with Colossus, if he was actually dead and when he came back he was upset about being dead for a while.
I mean, I am not sure how, but they could do it. Bringing him back doesn't take away from his sacrifice either. He did die trying to save everyone.
Him coming back to life doesn't change that, its not like suddenly him being brought back somehow means he didn't die trying to stop Max Lord.
All I am saying is that it probably will happen some time in the future, although the new Blue Beetle seems popular. Ted could still return and they could find a way to do it, I mean it is a comic book. And comics do fun things like time travel, coming back from the dead, evil clones/twins, lab accidents that turn people into heroes or villains.
And like with characters like Bucky, Jason Todd, and Colossus, they could figure out an interesting way to do it without taking away from his death I think.
Barry Allan was brought back, and I don't think it took away anything from his death in Crisis on Infinite Earths, or away from his character. So maybe it will just have to be a few years more to wait a handful of years to get Ted back.
Or maybe I just really want Ted Kord back because he is so much fun.
Like people have mentioned, Ted's death was the best thing that happened for Booster's character. They could find a way to make Beetle work with the current Booster, without reverting the characters back to them being there mainly to provide comedic relief, but I doubt it will happen.
Ted is easily my most favorite DC character, and I've often said, he's the character I can identify with the most. Naturally, I want to see him come back. I really don't even care how. I was praying PRAYING that he'd come back in brightest day! I get that he's had one of the greatest send-off's in comic books, or at least I thought so, but it wouldn't take away from the story for me.
I think he's gonna stay dead for awhile, though. Maybe next year...
But seriously, Kord is freaking awesome!
There's no good reason to bring a hero back from the dead. I still believe that Barry Allen died in the Crisis. You're either alive or dead. I don't believe in comic book resurrection. Tara Markov is still dead. I didn't see how Oliver Queen was brought back, but I'm not buyin' it.The best death with an out is still Sherlock Holmes and Professor Moriarty over the falls. No body. It's pretty obvious that Max Lord put a bullet in Ted's head. Unless he was rushed to the Lazarus Pit...
Okay, Hal Jordan is a pretty compelling argument for resurrection. But if your powers aren't cosmic, you're pretty much screwed.
I just can't see comic characters living just to Die Another Day. That's just me.
In a word: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ted Kord's death shouldn't be undone. As we've seen, sometimes certain things are written that have unforeseen repercussions. Ted Kord's death was the birth of a renaissance for the character of Booster Gold. Booster essentially got a second part of his origin story. Coming back in time to make money is his radioactive spider bite. Ted Kord being killed is his losing Uncle Ben.
Another reason that he won't come back (for now at least) is that Jaime Reyes is a beloved and successful character. Deaths, especially fondly remembered deaths, tend not to be undone until writers can't think of what to do with their replacements. Barry Allen didn't come back until Wally West ran out of steam, Kara Zor-El didn't return until the Supergirl mythos became horribly convoluted, etc etc. So long as DC continues to push Jaime as the face of the Blue Beetle franchise, don't expect to see Ted Kord making a return.
Ted should stay dead. He has an endless amount of ways to show up in comics (time travel, visits from beyond, and olds stories) without being brought back offically.
Now Ralph... i want him back. I'm a little ticked that they set up this whole Deadman-esq thing for him, then just dropped it.
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