Swamp Thing back in the DCU?

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Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
#1 Posted by johnny_spam (2034 posts) - - Show Bio

Vertigo hasn't done anything important with Swamp Thing for years and nothing has been important since the eighties so cool bring back the Vertigo characters to the main DCU. But it is Bleeding Cool it's not really 100% accurate. 

#2 Edited by grkpektis (141 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam said:

" Vertigo hasn't done anything important with Swamp Thing for years and nothing has been important since the eighties so cool bring back the Vertigo characters to the main DCU. But it is Bleeding Cool it's not really 100% accurate.  "

I completely agree.  i am really excited to see where geoff's take on the character
#3 Posted by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio

Vertigo Characters in the DCU? Hmmmmm. Lets see what happens with JC..

#4 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@turoksonofstone said:
" Vertigo Characters in the DCU? Hmmmmm. Lets see what happens with JC.. "
I worry with this, since Peter Milligan is blowing up huge and has his fingers in a lot of books, it makes sense business-wise to tie Hellblazer back to the DCU.  Story-wise it is a horrible idea and that is why I hate Didiot.
#5 Edited by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio

SPOILERS (because the tags aren't working)































@Silkcuts: 


He's baaaaaack

    
and he's looking awfully fleshy.
#6 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
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SPOILERS (because the tags aren't working)































@Silkcuts: 


He's baaaaaack

    
and he's looking awfully fleshy.
"
Glad I stop reading Brightest day, I am so uninterested.
Thanks for the scan.
#7 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts: That's not all

   
Black lantern Swamp Thing is the Big Bad we've been waiting for.
I'm underwhelmed.
#8 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" @Silkcuts: That's not all

   
Black lantern Swamp Thing is the Big Bad we've been waiting for.
I'm underwhelmed.
"
Okay, Black Lantern Swampy is kind of nutty.
^_^
I hope they do a split of the two, Alec a white Lantern and the actual husk of Swamp Thing the Black Lantern, then the join forces and become the Grey Lantern... okay the Grey Lantern is getting out of hand...lol
#9 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts: The villain totally should have been Black Lantern Resurrection Man , lol.
#10 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc...

#11 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc... "
I hear ya.
Johns can write, but I think having the power he has has given him the messiah complex.
#12 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc... "
I hear ya.Johns can write, but I think having the power he has has given him the messiah complex. "
Yep. He's a good writer, but he needs boundaries. Since those boundaries were lifted, he went from TT and the Flash to the awful Rebirth books and Secret Origins. We've been given senseless Geoffcons and the damn SIlver Age appearing in every bloody book.
#13 Edited by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:

" @Silkcuts: That's not all

    Black lantern Swamp Thing is the Big Bad we've been waiting for.
I'm underwhelmed.
"

They spent a year leading up to this?
#14 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc... "
I hear ya.Johns can write, but I think having the power he has has given him the messiah complex. "
Yep. He's a good writer, but he needs boundaries. Since those boundaries were lifted, he went from TT and the Flash to the awful Rebirth books and Secret Origins. We've been given senseless Geoffcons and the damn SIlver Age appearing in every bloody book. "
It is all greed in the end
#15 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc... "
I hear ya.Johns can write, but I think having the power he has has given him the messiah complex. "
Yep. He's a good writer, but he needs boundaries. Since those boundaries were lifted, he went from TT and the Flash to the awful Rebirth books and Secret Origins. We've been given senseless Geoffcons and the damn SIlver Age appearing in every bloody book. "
It is all greed in the end "
I think it's more ego than greed. Johns just wants things the way they were when he was a kid, so he can write about those characters. He's changing everything so that it'll be the way he wants it, and then he can build from there. He takes away his favourite character's faults and questionable acts.  It's fan-fiction. That's seriously all it is.
#16 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut: 
I repeat
 

I'm underwhelmed.

 
#17 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt:  Great answer.  "Fan-Fiction" that is now canon.
:(

@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
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@Lance Uppercut: 
I repeat
 

I'm underwhelmed.

 
"

High 5 Alec is back.
#18 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts: Little victories I suppose.
Nothing wrong with Fan Fic, Mark Millar get mad money for his.

#19 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  Great answer.  "Fan-Fiction" that is now canon.
:(
Thank goodness he's stayed away from the Bat books though. I really don't want to read an entire run about how Bruce isn't that great and that Hal is a better hero (facepalm).

Every time I read a book by Johns, it makes me that much happier to know Morrison is still active.
#20 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" @Silkcuts: Little victories I suppose.
Nothing wrong with Fan Fic, Mark Millar get mad money for his.

"
Yeah, but Millar also isn't slapping common sense in the face with his. 
#21 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

I still reckon one of the worst moments was when Geoff had Barry say that everything Hal had ever done that was morally questionable was Ollie's influence. That was so bad.

#22 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  Great answer.  "Fan-Fiction" that is now canon.
:(
Thank goodness he's stayed away from the Bat books though. I really don't want to read an entire run about how Bruce isn't that great and that Hal is a better hero (facepalm). Every time I read a book by Johns, it makes me that much happier to know Morrison is still active. "
I am glad Morrison didn't take the Alan Moore route to avoid the mainstream.  G-Mo reminds me what comics are capable of, even with the crap other writers release....lol

Stupid Hal!  I'm a Kyle fan anyway.
#23 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  Great answer.  "Fan-Fiction" that is now canon.
:(
Thank goodness he's stayed away from the Bat books though. I really don't want to read an entire run about how Bruce isn't that great and that Hal is a better hero (facepalm). Every time I read a book by Johns, it makes me that much happier to know Morrison is still active. "
I am glad Morrison didn't take the Alan Moore route to avoid the mainstream.  G-Mo reminds me what comics are capable of, even with the crap other writers release....lolStupid Hal!  I'm a Kyle fan anyway. "
Morrison is just so awesome lol. I'd honestly rank him amongst the greatest writers of all time, comic or no. His imagination is second-to-none.

That's because you're a clever person. Kyle rules :D
#24 Posted by Silkcuts (5272 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt:  Morrison is brilliant,  you won't hear arguments form me.  Only Alan Moore do  I think is better then Morrison.  Morrison's novels are way too expensive on the secondary markets :(

Kyle does rule!
#25 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Bad idea. Brightest Day sucks, see every other anti-Johns rant I've made, etc... "
I hear ya.Johns can write, but I think having the power he has has given him the messiah complex. "
Yep. He's a good writer, but he needs boundaries. Since those boundaries were lifted, he went from TT and the Flash to the awful Rebirth books and Secret Origins. We've been given senseless Geoffcons and the damn SIlver Age appearing in every bloody book. "
It's all part of his master plan ;)
I've been saying this for years.
#26 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio

Swamp Thing appearing in BD #23 was completely random. We see this giant Black Lantern version of him and then see his corpse crawling out from under the tree in the Star City forest.


Where in the world is this going?
#27 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio

You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked.

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#28 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
#29 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume. 
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#30 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume.  "
It gets worse. Believe me.
#31 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume.  "
It gets worse. Believe me. "
I'm too invested now to stop reading >_< Damn my OCD. 
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#32 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume.  "
It gets worse. Believe me. "
I'm too invested now to stop reading >_< Damn my OCD.  "
I am still reading this because a few characters I like are heavily involved in it, and I want to see what this arc does with them.
#33 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 

I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume.  "
It gets worse. Believe me. "
I'm too invested now to stop reading >_< Damn my OCD.  "
I am still reading this because a few characters I like are heavily involved in it, and I want to see what this arc does with them. "
I'm loving the Aquaman/Mera arc, the Martian Manhunter arc and the Hawk arc (I know there are serious spoilers involving them, I DO NOT know what they are and would prefer it to stay that way). 
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#34 Edited by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Silver2467 said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" You mean.....it was anti-climatic? Shocked. "
I lost all expectations from Brightest Day near the start, but this is just silly. So much of this arc is filled with random character derailment, pointless plot holes, and unneeded appearances. What especially makes no sense to me right now is why Swamp Thing is introduced just one issue before the finale. 
I can only imagine how unresolved and confusing the ending will be in issue 24. 
"
I've only read the first six? issues. Whatever was collected in the first trade volume.  "
It gets worse. Believe me. "
I'm too invested now to stop reading >_< Damn my OCD.  "
I am still reading this because a few characters I like are heavily involved in it, and I want to see what this arc does with them. "
I'm loving the Aquaman/Mera arc, the Martian Manhunter arc and the Hawk arc (I know there are serious spoilers involving them, I DO NOT know what they are and would prefer it to stay that way).  "
The Aquaman arc is the only I actually enjoyed when it was concluded. Originally, I started reading Brightest Day mainly for Firestorm and Martian Manhunter, because I am fans of them, but their arcs went downhill. I also liked the Deadman story for a while until that fell offtrack. Overall, the Aquaman story line was the one I preferred most. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, I could care less about. The same for Hawk and Dove. 
#35 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said: 
The Aquaman arc is the only I actually enjoyed when it was concluded. Originally, I started reading Brightest Day mainly for Firestorm and Martian Manhunter, because I am fans of them, but their arcs went downhill. I also liked the Deadman story for a while until that fell offtrack. Overall, the Aquaman story line was the one I preferred most. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, I could care less about. The same for Hawk and Dove.  "
That and the Hawk arc are probably my two favorites. I'm not an enormous Hawk and Dove fan, although they've been growing on me in Birds of Prey and I couldn't really care less about Firestorm. I dunno, I guess I tend to gravitate towards the warrior mentality characters. 
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#36 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said: 
The Aquaman arc is the only I actually enjoyed when it was concluded. Originally, I started reading Brightest Day mainly for Firestorm and Martian Manhunter, because I am fans of them, but their arcs went downhill. I also liked the Deadman story for a while until that fell offtrack. Overall, the Aquaman story line was the one I preferred most. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, I could care less about. The same for Hawk and Dove.  "
That and the Hawk arc are probably my two favorites. I'm not an enormous Hawk and Dove fan, although they've been growing on me in Birds of Prey and I couldn't really care less about Firestorm. I dunno, I guess I tend to gravitate towards the warrior mentality characters.  "
Firestorm's is probably the strangest and most precarious of all of them. 
#37 Posted by entropy_aegis (14569 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh Geoff is kinda clever,just found out that there was this parliament of trees thingy in the Star city forest right from the start which is very important to the Swamp thing mythos,and while brightest day fans can cry over this stupid,uninteresting ending i can savour the epic doomsday/cyborg superman fight in the superman/batman annual.
#38 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said: 
The Aquaman arc is the only I actually enjoyed when it was concluded. Originally, I started reading Brightest Day mainly for Firestorm and Martian Manhunter, because I am fans of them, but their arcs went downhill. I also liked the Deadman story for a while until that fell offtrack. Overall, the Aquaman story line was the one I preferred most. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, I could care less about. The same for Hawk and Dove.  "
That and the Hawk arc are probably my two favorites. I'm not an enormous Hawk and Dove fan, although they've been growing on me in Birds of Prey and I couldn't really care less about Firestorm. I dunno, I guess I tend to gravitate towards the warrior mentality characters.  "
Firestorm's is probably the strangest and most precarious of all of them.  "
I have basically no prior understanding (other than Cry for Justice and Blackest Night) of an already very confusing (at least to me) character, which hinders my appreciation/enjoyment of his arc. Normally I'm all for the strange and precarious. 
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#39 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said: 
The Aquaman arc is the only I actually enjoyed when it was concluded. Originally, I started reading Brightest Day mainly for Firestorm and Martian Manhunter, because I am fans of them, but their arcs went downhill. I also liked the Deadman story for a while until that fell offtrack. Overall, the Aquaman story line was the one I preferred most. Hawkman and Hawkgirl, I could care less about. The same for Hawk and Dove.  "
That and the Hawk arc are probably my two favorites. I'm not an enormous Hawk and Dove fan, although they've been growing on me in Birds of Prey and I couldn't really care less about Firestorm. I dunno, I guess I tend to gravitate towards the warrior mentality characters.  "
Firestorm's is probably the strangest and most precarious of all of them.  "
I have basically no prior understanding (other than Cry for Justice and Blackest Night) of an already very confusing (at least to me) character, which hinders my appreciation/enjoyment of his arc. Normally I'm all for the strange and precarious.  "
I like Firestorm as a character and do understand where his plot points are coming from, but really, his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense.
#40 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling?
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#41 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense.
#42 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately?
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#43 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:
" Eh Geoff is kinda clever,just found out that there was this parliament of trees thingy in the Star city forest right from the start which is very important to the Swamp thing mythos,and while brightest day fans can cry over this stupid,uninteresting ending i can savour the epic doomsday/cyborg superman fight in the superman/batman annual. "
That came out? And it wasn't disappointing? Awesome.
#44 Posted by entropy_aegis (14569 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @entropy_aegis said:
" Eh Geoff is kinda clever,just found out that there was this parliament of trees thingy in the Star city forest right from the start which is very important to the Swamp thing mythos,and while brightest day fans can cry over this stupid,uninteresting ending i can savour the epic doomsday/cyborg superman fight in the superman/batman annual. "
That came out? And it wasn't disappointing? Awesome. "

Want some spoilers?
#45 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately? "
Under Johns? Pretty much. 
#46 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately? "
Under Johns? Pretty much.  "
I'd add Morrison into that equation. He's a fantastic writer, but if you haven't read the every single tie in and every issue he's written in the last however long, you'll have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on. 
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#47 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately? "
Under Johns? Pretty much.  "
I'd add Morrison into that equation. He's a fantastic writer, but if you haven't read the every single tie in and every issue he's written in the last however long, you'll have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on.  "
That is just Morrison's writing style though. He has a huge build-up, multiple hints spread systematically throughout, and then his ending. I would not in any way identify him with Johns, who has been the major writer for most of DC's recent and primary events. 
#48 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately? "
Under Johns? Pretty much.  "
I'd add Morrison into that equation. He's a fantastic writer, but if you haven't read the every single tie in and every issue he's written in the last however long, you'll have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on.  "
That is just Morrison's writing style though. He has a huge build-up, multiple hints spread systematically throughout, and then his ending. I would not in any way identify him with Johns, who has been the major writer for most of DC's recent and primary events.  "
It's his style and I love it, it just makes for confusing stories at times. I still don't entirely understand Final Crisis and I've read the deluxe trade, which compiles just about every tie-in. 

I'm actually kind of a fan of Johns, which is attributed to the fact that I haven't been reading DC a very long time and I don't know a whole lot of the back story or continuity. 
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#49 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Silver2467 said:
 his individual story line in Brightest Day makes no sense. "
Character-wise or just from a general point of story-telling? "
Story telling. I do understand the characterization and why the different characters are relevant and used the way they are. Just the plot that makes no sense. "
Doesn't that seem to be a running theme with DC events lately? "
Under Johns? Pretty much.  "
I'd add Morrison into that equation. He's a fantastic writer, but if you haven't read the every single tie in and every issue he's written in the last however long, you'll have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on.  "
That is just Morrison's writing style though. He has a huge build-up, multiple hints spread systematically throughout, and then his ending. I would not in any way identify him with Johns, who has been the major writer for most of DC's recent and primary events.  "
It's his style and I love it, it just makes for confusing stories at times. I still don't entirely understand Final Crisis and I've read the deluxe trade, which compiles just about every tie-in. 

I'm actually kind of a fan of Johns, which is attributed to the fact that I haven't been reading DC a very long time and I don't know a whole lot of the back story or continuity. 
"
Final Crisis was not altogether Morrison's fault though. He had an original concept that he planned to integrate into it, but his notes had to be revised once some other writers changed what would have been the precursor to his initial design. 

Johns can be appreciated if you are unable to recognize the alterations he makes to characters and continuity. 
#50 Posted by Mercy_ (92635 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said: 
Final Crisis was not altogether Morrison's fault though. He had an original concept that he planned to integrate into it, but his notes had to be revised once some other writers changed what would have been the precursor to his initial design. 

Johns can be appreciated if you are unable to recognize the alterations he makes to characters and continuity. 
"
Fair enough. 

Exactly. His GL volume is the first Lantern stuff I've ever read. I have no previous knowledge other than the Justice League cartoon.
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