A lot of people have 3 major complaints about Superman Comics. They weren't addressed before the New52, and they haven't been addressed yet post NEW52.

1. Power Levels

I thought he was just right in the DCAU Justice League, Justice League: Unlimited, and Superman: The Animated Series. I think that his powers should be limited to Super Strength, Flight, LASER Vision, X-Ray Vision, Super Durability, and a Healing Factor. His super speed should only be used in flight to differentiate him from Flash, and he should not be as fast as the Flash. I like his new Kryptonian costume. His stats should be where Thor's are currently.

He doesn't need to jump into space or have super have super memorization or soul vision or super breath or super hearing. He doesn't need Superman robots. And his powers shouldn't be the only things he relies on. He's got investigative skills that I wish played a bigger role. And he has a lot of access to alien information from Krypton.

I wouldn't mind him being called in more by the military to handle Alien conspiracies and Pseudo-Science disasters.

2. Villains

It would help if he had COMPELLING, TRAGIC, SYMPATHETIC, VILLAINS. The problem with his current rogues is not their power levels. It's that there's no reason to care about them, like them, or fear them (with a few exceptions). Superman has his Joker in Lex Luthor, and he has his world crushers in Doomsday and Brainiac. He has his mirror villain in General Zod. But where's his Two-Face? Where's his Hobgoblin? Where's his Catwoman/Black Cat? Where's his Mr. Freeze? Where's his Doc Ock? Where's his court of Owls?

Who the hell cares about Toyman or imps from the 5th dimension or girls with nose rings?

3. Personality

Other than his outfit, Superman doesn't need to be edgy (I have never been a red shorts fan). He's a good, wholesome man--the way his parents raised him to be. He shouldn't have to apologize for that. I'm not saying he should be a dork though. Get rid of boring, bumbling, weak Clark Kent, and use the tougher Clark Kent from the Bruce Timm Cartoons. He should be earnest and good and strong in both persona's--a lot like Steve Rogers in Captain America: The First Avenger.

That's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

*Final Word

If you're a Superman writer, not every story needs to be weird or iconic. All Star Superman pulled those things off okay, but almost every other Superman story fails at that stuff. Just tell great sci fi and crime stories that just happen to star Superman.

i think people should just stop trying to change who he is all the time. alot of the people who complain about superman have never read a superman comic. So, i think we should stop trying to change him to fit there wants.

i dont get what you guys dont find cool and interesting about a guy who comes from another planet yet looks human,has 6 powers can fly has a awsome costume and beat up gl flash and batman at the same time

His rouges gallery sucks big time. He has maybe 3 enemies that are half way interesting....but by now they have been done to death. And don't get me started on the aliens threats from the Superman title >_>

@Lvenger said:

He's not edgy, he is still a nice, moral guy who is a bit tougher than his past incarnations.

disagree. He's art always comes out like he's extremely mad about something.He seems edgy to me.

@moywar700: he doesn't need to be edgy

@joshmightbe said:

@moywar700: he doesn't need to be edgy

I never claimed that he needed to be edgy.I stated that he looks edgy in the artwork.

@moywar700: I know I just hate when people pull out that "He needs to be more edgy" argument. Most of the people I hear complain about Superman seem to believe that all comic characters need to be Batman

Ok One thing I disagree with is that Mr. Mxysptlk is not an Interesting villain. Mxy is arguably the most powerful being in the DCU, he is definitely in the top 5. Plus, I like the idea of an all-powerful being messing around with Superman.

@CODYSF said:

@azza04 said:

His rouges gallery sucks big time. He has maybe 3 enemies that are half way interesting....but by now they have been done to death. And don't get me started on the aliens threats from the Superman title >_>

His rouges galley suck yeah ok and Thor or Iron man are better smh

Outside of Batman and Spiderman he has the most number of popular/iconic villains. Who has better villains than him? Wonder Woman? Flash? Hulk? lol.

@Lvenger said:

@moywar700 said:

@Lvenger said:

He's not edgy, he is still a nice, moral guy who is a bit tougher than his past incarnations.

disagree. He's art always comes out like he's extremely mad about something.He seems edgy to me.

Those are covers, not interior panels. If you wanted to make a case for Superman being edgy, I'd have used scans from Action Comics 1 or 10. Those are the closest instances of Superman being edgy. But still in spite of those, he is still as moral as he was before the reboot. Superman just has some Golden Age tweaks to him and more of a no nonsense attitude about him.

I disagree. he's not the same as pre-flashpoint. He seems pretty edgy to me.

I only read action comics 1.

@Lvenger said:

@moywar700 said:

@Lvenger said:

@moywar700 said:

@Lvenger said:

He's not edgy, he is still a nice, moral guy who is a bit tougher than his past incarnations.

disagree. He's art always comes out like he's extremely mad about something.He seems edgy to me.

Those are covers, not interior panels. If you wanted to make a case for Superman being edgy, I'd have used scans from Action Comics 1 or 10. Those are the closest instances of Superman being edgy. But still in spite of those, he is still as moral as he was before the reboot. Superman just has some Golden Age tweaks to him and more of a no nonsense attitude about him.

I disagree. he's not the same as pre-flashpoint. He seems pretty edgy to me.

@moywar700 said:

I only read action comics 1.

See that's the scan I told you to use to say Superman was edgy. And you can't really make a judgement based on one issue when so many other issues have been released which show Superman to have a no nonsense approach but isn't edgy. Why the long wait to read Action Comics 1 given that it's nearly a year since the New 52 kicked off?

action comics didn't interest me. I just read older issues.

^ Agreed.

I personally want DC to remove super speed, seriously he doesn't need it. Superman is all about flying and not running. Also i think Clark should be a Cop and not a reporter. Things would be alot more interesting that way and the benefit is that Clark would be the first to know about where the crimes are happening and whos involved and stuff like that. I also agree about the villains, we need more villains who challenge Superman mentally, his way of justice, his belief.

@redwingx: Why shouldn't he have super speed? Then he's just another flying brick.

@redwingx: we dont need to change who superman is to make him interesting

He just needs more quality opponents.

@ComicStooge said:

@redwingx: Why shouldn't he have super speed? Then he's just another flying brick.

The question is why should he have super speed? He never uses it anyway. Another flying brick? Superman is the first superhero, he was the original, he cant be another brick because he was the first flying brick.