Would Superman be more populare/have less haters if he was human?

#1 Posted by Saucedo17 (135 posts) - - Show Bio

I've notice that with a lot of superman haters they usually hate him because he's powerful and yet I don't really see allot of hate with Flash or Shazame (other then him being to goody goody pre-52), I started thinking is it because Flash and Shazame are human? What do guys think why Superman usually gets hate yet there's hardly any for Flash and Shazame do think is it because there human what do you guys think

#2 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is #1 that's why people hate him. Nothing more nothing less.

#3 Posted by stephens2177 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

no not because he is a alien,bit because he is considered a boy scout. 
 
oh and superboy is the one who ppl are probably hating,cause he isnt a full kryptonian,but still wears the S.

#4 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

Superman is #1 that's why people hate him. Nothing more nothing less.

#5 Edited by Goldfinch (248 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly hate Supes only because he is always unbeatable, yes his powers should be much less more human, I cannot make a connection with a guy who is an alien, and who is too much powerful and unbeatable.

#6 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@Goldfinch said:

I honestly hate Supes only because he is always unbeatable, yes his powers should be much less more human, I cannot make a connection with a guy who is an alien, and who is too much powerful and unbeatable.

Uhh yeah superman never loses, right

#7 Posted by SmashBrawler (5978 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman shouldn't be changed to appease the haters because they're not real fans.

#8 Posted by CrimsonCake (2683 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler said:

Superman shouldn't be changed to appease the haters because they're not real fans.

Exactly.

I got into an argument over someone about Superman and the other person Kept Bringing up Silver-age Superman's feat of sneezing a Galaxy away to support his Claim that superman is overpowered. People these days...

#9 Edited by Cap10nate (2734 posts) - - Show Bio

It has nothing to do with him being an alien. He has been the most popular character for 70 years. So for 70 years, fans who thought their favorite characters were the best have held spite for Superman because he gets all the glory and attention. Any time you have something on top for so long there will be all kinds of people who despise them because they feel their character is left out.

Look at the New York Yankees. They have been the most successful team in baseball for the past 100 years and are in NYC. A poll will show that they are the most loved and hated team in the league. Supes is basically the Yankees of comics.

#10 Posted by Lvenger (21239 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler said:

Superman shouldn't be changed to appease the haters because they're not real fans.

QFT

#11 Posted by supermanfan1234 (206 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

Superman is #1 that's why people hate him. Nothing more nothing less.

#12 Posted by supermanfan1234 (206 posts) - - Show Bio

@CrimsonCake: i agree with you but then again new 52 is one of the best things thats ever happend to superman.

#13 Posted by asIsuspected (543 posts) - - Show Bio

There will never be a character loved by everyone.

#14 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

Superman is #1 that's why people hate him. Nothing more nothing less.

QFT

@Goldfinch said:

I honestly hate Supes only because he is always unbeatable, yes his powers should be much less more human, I cannot make a connection with a guy who is an alien, and who is too much powerful and unbeatable.

Unbeatable. cmon, if superman was unbeatable no one would read his comics. think about it for a minute

#15 Posted by stephens2177 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

goldfinch then you must really hate flash or martian manhunter,they are written more like unbeatable gods nowadays then superman. 
 
the writers for superman should play to their base,actual superman lovers,not the haters,its like being political correct.the superman fans are who buy the books,merchandise,and watch all the shows,,they are who you shojld make happy.

#16 Posted by BlackWind (7216 posts) - - Show Bio

If I told a casual fan Flash could turn Superman into a statue, they wouldn't believe it. Most are just ignorant and aren't aware of his limits.

@Goldfinch: None of that is true.

#17 Edited by cameron83 (7643 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177: Well actually people are just using their powers more effectively.If all flash did was run really fast,neither I or thousands of other people will like him.Him using his speed in a more effective way is much more interesting,we wanna see how he uses them.In Silver age or whatever he probably just used his powers to race people.Same with Martian manhunter (sorta),but j'onzz was written to be powerful,with a vulnerable weakness.Same with alot of powerful JLA characters (consistent weaknesses,so if superman is bulletproof,he better not get stabbed with a knife).

#18 Posted by stephens2177 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

if other characters are just getting to use their powers effeftive,then im sitting patiently to see superman get the same treatement.i mean if they really wanted to superman could vibrate his molecules to pass through things too,make himself invisible or even intangible,his mental ability called something like toraqism(ibknow thats way off lol) could open the door to him fighting off any mental attacks,and even possibliy letting him push a telepathic message or attack toward others.sonar vision is new,but really when he uses all his super senses together he should be able to do this with everything with pinpoint accuracy,nothing should be able to eascape his sight.they could keep increasing his strength,durability,and speed to the point that he could move whole galaxies again,go through time,take a sun going super nova in the face easily.see what im saying,sure its coll seeing other characters broaden their use of their powers,bjt dont leave superman behimd while doing it,mostly when he is a character bulit to be better over the years already.

#19 Posted by mfundo (1623 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him. The only one thing I hate about him is how the fan boys always say, "He is Superman, he wins. End of discussion" with no reasoning at all. Plus he's kind of overpowered.

#20 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

If he were human, I might not read him.

The fact he is alien and more human that any of us, that speaks out to me.

#21 Posted by Rumble Man (11073 posts) - - Show Bio

no

too much 'human' characters with 'angst' already

#22 Posted by Mbecks14 (2029 posts) - - Show Bio

@Goldfinch said:

I honestly hate Supes only because he is always unbeatable, yes his powers should be much less more human, I cannot make a connection with a guy who is an alien, and who is too much powerful and unbeatable.

Because all Superman is would be an unstoppable fighting machine who always wins? Don't you mean every hero? He doesn't live a human life having been raised by humans? He doesn't have a personallity or character other than winning? This is an example of the mentality towards Superman that I HATE. Because you obviously don't read much Superman. I'm not saying you need to or that you need to love his character, but don't say he's boring if you haven't read much of him.

And all superheroes are unbeatable. When do heroes ever really lose? In the end, all heroes will win. Sure they all suffer loss, but I think there's a giant misconception that Superman's never lost anything. He died, he's lost his birth parents and an entire PLANET/species (twice technically), he lost his psuedo son Chris Kent to the phantom zone twice, his adoptive parents have died in multiple stories, etc. How is Superman more unbeatable than anyone else?

@Supreme Marvel said:

If he were human, I might not read him.

The fact he is alien and more human that any of us, that speaks out to me.

This.

#23 Posted by Lvenger (21239 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mbecks14 said:

@Goldfinch said:

I honestly hate Supes only because he is always unbeatable, yes his powers should be much less more human, I cannot make a connection with a guy who is an alien, and who is too much powerful and unbeatable.

Because all Superman is would be an unstoppable fighting machine who always wins? Don't you mean every hero? He doesn't live a human life having been raised by humans? He doesn't have a personallity or character other than winning? This is an example of the mentality towards Superman that I HATE. Because you obviously don't read much Superman. I'm not saying you need to or that you need to love his character, but don't say he's boring if you haven't read much of him.

And all superheroes are unbeatable. When do heroes ever really lose? In the end, all heroes will win. Sure they all suffer loss, but I think there's a giant misconception that Superman's never lost anything. He died, he's lost his birth parents and an entire PLANET/species (twice technically), he lost his psuedo son Chris Kent to the phantom zone twice, his adoptive parents have died in multiple stories, etc. How is Superman more unbeatable than anyone else?

@Supreme Marvel said:

If he were human, I might not read him.

The fact he is alien and more human that any of us, that speaks out to me.

This.

Well said.

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